Kakva okupacija Gaze? Koliko izraelaca ima u Gazi?
izmedju ostalog, po medjunarodnom pravu, Gaza je okupirana, obzirom da Izraelci kontrolisu sve - vodu, vazduh, dotok hrane, i sve moguce pristupe (pristup kroz Egipat kontrolisu Ameri i Izrael, preko banana Mubaraka). izmedju ostalog, to pise i u famoznom izvestaju antisemite Goldstona.
takodje, po nahodjenju upadaju i unistavaju imovinu, pucaju na seljake...
frisko. Ovo oko Libana i Gaze i Izraela koji tu uleće kako mu se ćefne: koliko se sećam Izrael se jednom povukao odande. Smatraš da su potpuno bespotrebno tamo uletali ponovo?
kao
povod su iskoristene akcije Hamasa/Hezbolaha - trenutno ne mogu da probaju nesto slicno jer su se obe akcije ispostavile kao PR debakl (u Libanu i vojni debakl). u oba slucaja se radilo o izraelskoj odluci da incidente iskoriste kao povod za rat koji su zeleli i za koji su se spremali.
(razlika je to da su se na libansko-izraelskoj granici incidenti desavali, pri cemu ni jedni ni drugi nisu bili nevini za iste. mogu da ti nadjem i link koji opisuje incidente, secam se da sam okacio jednom.* u Gazi su Izraelci vrlo aktivno poradili na tome da isprovociraju Hamas. kacio linkove tada, a pise i u u Goldstonovom izvestaju.)
Da li se slažeš da je samim tim što je to "završeno", bespredmetno govoriti o povratku izbeglica iz 1948. i 1967.?
nije zavrseno, upravo o tome se i radi. u najmanju ruku, Izraelci ce morati da isplate "pravednu nadoknadu".
bice zavrseno onog dana kada ne bude na CNN-u. ako nije na vestima, niko nece ni obracati paznju. to jest, za moju malenkost, kada ne bude na BBC-u ili Al-Dzaziri - CNN ne pratim.
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Spoiler! --Click here to view--
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2006/aug/08/israel.syria
Since Israel's withdrawal from southern Lebanon in May 2000, there have been hundreds of violations of the "blue line" between the two countries. The United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (Unifil) reports that Israeli aircraft crossed the line "on an almost daily basis" between 2001 and 2003, and "persistently" until 2006. These incursions "caused great concern to the civilian population, particularly low-altitude flights that break the sound barrier over populated areas". On some occasions, Hizbullah tried to shoot them down with anti-aircraft guns.
In October 2000, the Israel Defence Forces shot at unarmed Palestinian demonstrators on the border, killing three and wounding 20. In response, Hizbullah crossed the line and kidnapped three Israeli soldiers. On several occasions, Hizbullah fired missiles and mortar rounds at IDF positions, and the IDF responded with heavy artillery and sometimes aerial bombardment. Incidents like this killed three Israelis and three Lebanese in 2003; one Israeli soldier and two Hizbullah fighters in 2005; and two Lebanese people and three Israeli soldiers in February 2006. Rockets were fired from Lebanon into Israel several times in 2004, 2005 and 2006, on some occasions by Hizbullah.
On May 26 this year, two officials of Islamic Jihad - Nidal and Mahmoud Majzoub - were killed by a car bomb in the Lebanese city of Sidon. This was widely assumed in Lebanon and Israel to be the work of Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency. In June, a man named Mahmoud Rafeh confessed to the killings and admitted that he had been working for Mossad since 1994. Militants in southern Lebanon responded, on the day of the bombing, by launching eight rockets into Israel. One soldier was lightly wounded. There was a major bust-up on the border, during which one member of Hizbullah was killed and several wounded, and one Israeli soldier wounded.
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On July 12, Hizbullah fired the first shots. But that act of aggression was simply one instance in a long sequence of small incursions and attacks over the past six years by both sides. So why was the Israeli response so different from all that preceded it?
Edited by Gandalf, 26 April 2010 - 05:30.