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Poll: Abu Dhabi Grand Prix 2012. (17 member(s) have cast votes)

Ko je pobednik?

  1. Alonso (4 votes [23.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.53%

  2. Vettel (5 votes [29.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.41%

  3. Webber (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Hamilton (6 votes [35.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.29%

  5. Button (2 votes [11.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.76%

  6. Neko od nenavedenih (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

Ferrari i Alonso će na nekoj trci do kraja sezone biti brži od Red Bulla?

  1. Da (11 votes [64.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 64.71%

  2. Ne (6 votes [35.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.29%

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#1 alpiner

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 21:11

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The Circuit

Turn 1 is medium speed – around 130kph – leading into the high speed Turns 2/3 which should be flat out in qualifying and only something for the drivers to think about when they are on heavy fuel loads.
Turn 2 is a defining corner for set-up. You need sufficient front wing to eradicate high speed understeer and this defines how much front wing is used as the other corners can all use less than this one.

Turn 5 has one of the bigger braking demands on the circuit; down from around 300kph into a sharp left immediately followed by the even tighter right of Turn 6.
Good engine pickup out of Turn 7 is vital for to enter the longest straight of the track. Turn 7 is a second gear corner, taken at around 70kph.
Turns 8 + 9 come at the end of one of the longest straights in Formula 1 and the fastest part of the circuit, with a maximum speed of around 320kph. This is followed by heavy braking down to second gear and around 80kph, with the drivers using the kerbs aggressively through this tricky sequence.
Another long straight with a top speed of over 300kph leads into a heavy braking zone for Turn 11, which forms the first part of a tight left-right-left sequence requiring good change of direction from the car.
The final sector of the circuit between Turns 11 + 21 is all very low speed with a lot of second gear corners; very reminiscent of a street course without strictly being one.
The Car

The recent tracks - Suzuka, Korea, India have been a high-medium downforce level whereas Yas Marina is more towards a Monaco level of downforce - almost maximum because of the section between Turn 11 and 21 which is all very low speed with a lot of second gear corners.
Turn 2 is the crucial corner for determining how much front wing is used. More front wing is required here than for any other corner, so you need sufficient front wing for Turn 2 without causing too much detriment elsewhere.

The kerbs are more pronounced than seen at some other tracks, in particular Turns 8, 9 and through the last sector. A soft car which rides the kerbs well helps here, but it’s a trade-off between having a soft car which will ride over the kerbs and one which is stiff enough for the driver to have a sharp change of direction which is necessary for the chicanes – 8-9 and 11-13.
There are reasonable braking demands, especially into Turns 5, 8, 11 which have quite high speed approaches to the low speed corners. Temperatures will need to be monitored as will wear; these are not likely to be an issue, but more attention is paid to them here than at other tracks.
The consecutive allocation of the medium and soft compound Pirelli tyres should not present too many issues, with both tyres likely to suit the circuit – opening up the potential strategy permutations.
The day to night schedule makes ambient conditions vary significantly and grip levels, tyre warm up and air pressure will change. The engine needs to respond to this new set of parameters, so careful engine management and flexibility is crucial.

Broj krugova: 55

Dužina staze: 5.554 km

Dužina trke: 305.355 km

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Vremenska prognoza:
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FP1: 10:00
FP2: 14:00

FP3: 11:00
Kvalifikacije: 14:00

Trka: 14:00

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#2 alpiner

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 21:38

Obzirom da trka nema istorijsku pozadinu opet kratak uvod.

Za poslednje dve trke, Ameriku će pisati Radoje, a Brazil Sumil. Biće i dosta fotografija sa komentarima.

#3 Jurgen

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 23:00

MIslim da ova staza najvise odgovara McLarenu, pa ocekujem pobedu Hamiltona. Iza njega velika borba izmedju Red Bulla, Alonsa i Kimija. Svaki raspored dolazi u obzir. No videcemo posle P1 malo vise.

#4 4_Webber

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 23:37

MIslim da ova staza najvise odgovara McLarenu

Meklarenu?

#5 Jurgen

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 00:22

Meklarenu?


Pa lepo pise McLaren.

#6 4_Webber

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 00:28

Ma ne to, nego otkud njima

Tj. otkud da za njih mislis da su favoriti za pobedu

#7 romantik

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 07:29

Iskreno i ja ocekujem najvise od njih. Bili su jako brzi u Madjarskoj, a i prosle godine ovde, tako da bi trebalo da im lezi staza.

#8 alpiner

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 08:11

Red Bull bi verovatno imao het trik da Vettelu prošle godine nije pukla guma u prvoj krivini.

2009. Hamilton je uzeo pol, Vettel drugi, Webber treći. Posle prve promene guma Vettel obilazi Hamilton kojem kasnije otkazuje zadnja desna kočnica i odustaje. 1.-2. za Red Bull na kraju trke

2010. Vettel uzima pol, Hamilton je drugi sa samo jednom desetinkom zaostatka, Alonso treći, Webber peti. Izlazak SC-a je promešao karte, Ferrari se trkao sa pogrešnim Red Bull-om. Poredak trke Vettel - Hamilton - Button

2011. Pol za Vettela sa samo 1,5 desetih ispred Hamiltona i Buttona. Vettelu puca guma u prvoj krivini, Hamilton pobeđuje ispred Alonsa, Webber tek četvrti posle izgubljenog duela sa Buttonom.

Kada se sumira, Red Bull jeste postigao najviše na ovoj stazi, ali jedini ozbiljan suparnik za ove tri godine im je bio McLaren. Tako da petrovic-eva logika donekle ima smisla. Mada jako je nezahvalno praviti prognoze na osnovu prethodnih godina. Jedina logika koja bi mogla da bude vodilja je filozofija konstrukcije bolida koja je uglavnom nastavak prethodnog modela.

Edited by alpiner, 02 November 2012 - 08:24.


#9 alpiner

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 08:51

Iskreno i ja ocekujem najvise od njih. Bili su jako brzi u Madjarskoj, a i prosle godine ovde, tako da bi trebalo da im lezi staza.


Staza im definitivmo leži, ali zašto je upoređuješ sa Hungaroringom? Zbog sporih krivina? To je logika i nekih inženjera...da ne kažem nada ili uteha. Nema dužih brzih krivina koje prave najviše razlike u aero efikasnosti bolida i performansama.

Yas Marina ima dva pravca na kojima su maximalne brzine oko 315km/h, a Hungaroring jedan sa jedva 300km/h. To u mnogome utiče na aero podešavanja.

Edited by alpiner, 02 November 2012 - 13:32.


#10 alpiner

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:25

Sada bi već mogli da se bavimo i matematikom.

Ako Vettel pobedi na ovoj trci, a Alonso završi kao drugi. Vetel ima 20 bodova prednosti i prostor da na poslednje dve trke bude treći.

Ukoliko Vettel pobedi, a Alonso zavši kao treći to je 23 boda prednosti. Vettelu je dovoljno da na poslednje dve trke završi kao treći i peti.

Ako Vettel odustane na ovoj, morao bi da pobedi na jednoj od poslednje dve i na drugoj završi ispred bez obzira na plasman samo da je ispred Alonsa i odgovara mu sve osim 9.- 10.

#11 romantik

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:56

Obicno timomvi tokom sezone imaju slicne performanse na slicnim stazama, a uprkos dva pomenuta duga pravca, osnovne karakteristike ove staze su slicne Hungaroringu.
Sto se matematike tice mislim da je nepotrebno praviti kalkulacije, ako Vettel ne bude imao bar jedan DNF, uzima titulu.

#12 4_Webber

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 10:05

Kada se sumira, Red Bull jeste postigao najviše na ovoj stazi, ali jedini ozbiljan suparnik za ove tri godine im je bio McLaren. Tako da petrovic-eva logika donekle ima smisla

Da, ali nista to ne mora da znaci, bitan je trenutan odnos snaga, a prema tome ne vidim kako bi iko mogao da ugrozi Red Bul. S druge strane, ocekujem i ja McL ispred Ferarija.. Mada pogledajte ovo:

@SkySportsMike: Ferrari broke the curfew for the first time this season last night, presume they've been busy bolting new bits on the car #skyf1 #AbuDhabiGP

#13 4_Webber

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 10:56

Boga mi, Petrovic je izgleda bio u pravu. Svaka cast. Meklaren masakrira na FP1.

#14 stex

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:15

Ništa to ne znači. Treba sačekati FP3, pa tek onda stvari postaju jasnije.

#15 alpiner

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 13:28

Obicno timomvi tokom sezone imaju slicne performanse na slicnim stazama, a uprkos dva pomenuta duga pravca, osnovne karakteristike ove staze su slicne Hungaroringu.


Onda bi i Lotus trebao da bude extra. Na ruku im ide i visoka temperatura čak su i gume iste. Ono što će im svakako biti problem je snaga koju još nisu doveli na željeni nivo nakon stavljanja novog izduva. U najboljem slučaju povratiće 50%. Kimi kaže da je auto u Indiji bio jako dobar možda uz malo sreće uleti u borbu sa McLarenom i Ferrariem. Nada umire poslednja ;)