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[memento]

According to the official website of 24 Hours of Le Mans:

Le Mans 24 Hours back on Eurosport

jeudi 13 mars 2008 - 15h17



A new three year deal for unique LIVE coverage.



The Eurosport Group has signed a three-year agreement with the Automobile Club de l'Ouest (ACO) to broadcast the "Le Mans 24 Hours" races in 2008, 2009 and 2010.

The legendary event is back on Eurosport with extensive and unique LIVE coverage. The deal includes both the broadcast of the prestigious car racing event held in June, plus coverage of the motorcycling event in April together with all five events of the "Le Mans Series", the great 1000km endurance series*.

Unbeatable LIVE coverage

The combined power of Eurosport, Eurosport 2, Eurosport Asia-Pacific and Eurosport's websites will offer unbeatable LIVE coverage of the "Le Mans 24 Hours":

 Non-stop LIVE coverage of the race with 7 hours on Eurosport and 17 hours on Eurosport 2.
 Non-stop LIVE coverage of the race on Eurosport Asia-Pacific.
 Non-stop LIVE video streaming of the race, with commentaries, on Eurosport's websites across Europe.


kazu unbeatable... ajd' da vidim kako to misle posle proslogodisnjeg (a i pretproslogodisnjeg) motors TV poduhvata sa vise od 48 sati zivog programa. volim eurosport, ali radije bih ovo gledala na motorsu.

[Rad-oh-yeah?]

Ne bih sada da ulazim u raspravu sa tobom oko potrosnje i ostalih tehnickih stvari, jer to i ne bi bila prava rasprava vec bi ja klimao glavom, a ti predavao Meni dizel i trke ne idu....uvek se setim onih zajebanata iz pete brzine sa BBC-a kada su sarkasticno u svom stilu predstavili prvi dizel Jaguar

Ako ti kazem da su u vreme drugog svetskog rata postojali i avioni sa dizel pogonom, neces mi verovati a ziva je istina. Dizel bi verovatno imao problema u trkama pod nekim drugacijim propozicijama ali za enduro je dusu dao.

Da dizelas nije tako dobro resenje za ovakve trke ne bi ga sigurno koristili.

No kada je rec o citiranom, ja sam ubedjen da je tu veoma bitna stvar reklamiranje proizvoda.

Naravno da je bitno. Isto kao sto je bitno nekim drugim proizvodjacima da se reklamiraju kroz one trkacke serije gde su bas oni uboli pobednicku formulu.

Uostalom, u mnogim krajevima sveta dizelasi se dodatno oporezuju (ili su totalno zabranjeni) zbog standarda oko zagadjenja sto ih cini nepristupacnima za kupce, tako da nema puno logike specijalno reklamirati bas dizel tehnologiju i u tim zemljama. Ipak je primarno to sto je pobedio Audi, a sekundarno da li je dizel ili benzinac.

Misssim, da to nije tako ne bi Audi sam sebi bio najveci sponzor sa onolikim natpisom TDI na boku.

Pa naravno da ce sebe da reklamiraju, nece valjda da metnu statijaznam Tojotinu reklamu?

[Vincenzo]

Pa nece Tojotinu, ali neku drugu. Ni sama Toyota nema krupan natpis Toyota u F1 vec Panasonic, jel. No nije ni toliko bitno.

Bitno je da cemo uzivati u ovom dogadjaju 24h. I ja mislim da bi bilo bolje da Motors radi prenos. To je Francuska TV, tako da mislim da oni sa posebnim zanosom rade ovaj dogadjaj

[Downforce]

Dizel bi verovatno imao problema u trkama pod nekim drugacijim propozicijama ali za enduro je dusu dao.

Da dizelas nije tako dobro resenje za ovakve trke ne bi ga sigurno koristili.

Da skratim dugu pricu - sve se svodi na to da je sa pojavom novih materijala i tehnologije izrade omoguceno da vrte dizel na vecem broju obrtaja cime su mu podigli snagu i da pri tom zbog vece ekonomicnosti dizela predju veci broj km sa istom masom goriva tj. sa 100kg dizela predju vecu razdaljinu nego sa benzinac sa 100 kg benzina. Za enduro trke dusu dalo...

[Vincenzo]

Gene: I thought I was going to die
Monday, June 2nd 2008, 14:05 GMT

Marc GeneMarc Gene says he thought he was going to die when he crashed and rolled a Peugeot 908 HDi at Le Mans yesterday.

The former grand prix driver, who was sharing the No.7 car with Nicolas Minassian and Jacques Villeneuve in the test day for 24 Hours, spun and rolled into a barrier in the Porsche Curves, destroying the car and fracturing a toe.

"The truth is that I didn't think I would survive the accident," he said on his personal website. "This has been, without a doubt, the biggest crash of my career and it was a miracle that I walked away.

"I just want to thank Peugeot for building a car that saved my life. Now I'm only thinking about recovering and being ready for the race. We face a great challenge to rebuild the car but I trust Peugeot, who have supported me a lot since the accident."

Gene is expected to be fit to drive in the first qualifying session for the 24 Hours next Wednesday.

[EunosCosmo]

E, a sada nešto što nema veze sa dizelom, a još manje sa ekonomičnom potrošnjom goriva!
Ovo je MAZDA 787B.  ie9o.jpg   311.28KB   81 downloads
Inače, MAZDA je prvi, i do sada jedini japanski proizvođač koji je pobedio na ovom prestižnom takmičenju, i jedini pobednik koji nije koristio "klasičan" klipni motor.
Njegovo "srce" je motor oznake R26B, atmosferski četvorostruki rotacioni (Wankel) motor, sa tri svećice po komori, zapremine 2622cc, 700 hp (520 kW)/9000 rpm i momentom od 607 N·m/6500 rpm, mada Mazdini stručnjaci tvrde da ima čak
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Interesantno je da je Mazda te godine (1991) bila apsolutni autsajder a sva tri vozila su stigla do cilja zauzevši prvo, šesto i osmo mesto. Pobeda je došla nakon što se vodeći Mercedes-Benz C11 sa "nekom budalom" za volanom izvrteo na stazi.
Do kraja godine FIA je zabranila dalju upotrebu takvih motora u ovom takmičenju a Mazda je ušla u legendu!

Ovde možete videti i čuti to "čudo".link
A ovo je Mazda rx7 sa sličnim motorom.link

Edited by EunosCosmo, 06 June 2008 - 08:52.

[Uzice]

Pobeda je došla nakon što se vodeći Mercedes-Benz C11 sa "nekom budalom" za volanom izvrteo na stazi.

Ko je budala?

[EunosCosmo]

"In the early stages of the race, the #55 car made its way to third place with the #18 car behind it 2 laps down. The #18 had a lower gear ratio setup meaning the car used less fuel but was 20 km/h (12 mph) slower. The #55 would by night, move into second place, when the Mercedes-Benz C11 of Michael Schumacher, Fritz Kreutzpointner and Karl Wendlinger spun off and later pitted with a gearbox problem."
Izvor: Wikipedia
A ko je od njih trojice - ne znam!
Inače, bili su apsolutni favoriti.

Edited by EunosCosmo, 06 June 2008 - 13:56.

[Downforce]

Ovo je MAZDA 787B.

Gde me nadje...obozavam tu masinu! Zvuk njenog motora je brutalan!

Da nemas slucajno neke njene hi-res slike da podelis sa ubogim kolegom?

[EunosCosmo]

UŽIVAJTE !!!

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[alpiner]

Jako lepo EunosC.


Evo još sličica.

[Vincenzo]

Rezultati najnovijih treninga.

1 8 Team Peugeot Total LAMY P. 3:22.222
2 9 Peugeot Sport Total MONTAGNY F. 3:26.641
3 1 Audi Sport North America BIELA F. 3:26.678
4 7 Team Peugeot Total GENE M. 3:27.248
5 3 Audi Sport Team Joest LUHR L. 3:28.359
6 17 Pescarolo Sport PRIMAT H. 3:33.939
7 16 Pescarolo Sport COLLARD E. 3:35.443
8 5 Team Oreca Matmut AYARI S. 3:36.264
9 10 Charouz Racing System MUCKE S. 3:36.426
10 2 Audi Sport North America CAPELLO R. 3:37.011

[alpiner]

Sarrazin sets blinding pace for Peugeot
By Steven English Wednesday, June 11th 2008, 19:18 GMT



Peugeot set a shattering pace in the first qualifying session for this weekend's Le Mans 24 Hours with two of the French diesel-powered 908 HDis setting 3:18 lap times.

Stephane Sarrazin, in the No.8 car, lapped eight seconds quicker than last year's pole time with a best of 3:18.513.

The Frenchman was fastest for much of the first session, and eventually ran four seconds quicker than the best time he set on the test day 10 days ago. Then team-mate Franck Montagny put the No.9 car just one tenth behind, two thirds of the way through the two-hour session.

Nicolas Minassian completed a lock out of the top three for the French manufacturer.

Seven-time winner Tom Kristensen set the quickest Audi time in the No.2 R10 TDi, but his lap was nearly seven seconds off the pace of the lead Peugeots.

Mike Rockenfeller drove the next fastest Audi, half a second off Kristensen's time, with Frank Biela rounding out the top six a further two seconds back.

Jean-Christophe Boullion was best of the petrol-powered cars, taking seventh for Pescarolo just a second off the back of the Audis. The Japanese Dome also set an impressive pace with Daisuke Ito at the wheel, going eighth overall in the new prototype.

Michael Vergers posted a late quick lap to go to the top of the LMP2 standings in the Barazi Epsilon. The lead Porsches from Van Merksteijn and Essex were just a second further back with Jos Verstappen and Sascha Maasen setting the quickest times in each.

The Van Merksteijn Porsche picked up a right rear puncture later in the session, though, forcing Peter van Merksteijn to limp back to the pits with damage to the bodywork of the RS Spyder.

Christophe Bouchet was fastest of the GT1 cars in the Larbre Saleen, ahead of the Corvettes of Oliver Gavin and Johnny O'Connell. The factory Aston Martins of Antonio Garcia and Heinz-Harald Frentzen were fourth and fifth in class.

Porsches struck the first blow in GT2 with the IMSA and Flying Lizards cars leading the way, ahead of the Virgo Motorsport Ferrari and the Felbermayr Porsche.

Qualifying results:

1. LMP1 Lamy
Sarrazin
Wurz Team Peugeot Total Peugeot 908 3:18.513
2. LMP1 Montagny
Zonta
Klien Peugeot Sport Total Peugeot 908 3:18.682 0.169
3. LMP1 Gene
Minassian
Villeneuve Team Peugeot Total Peugeot 908 3:20.451 1.938
4. LMP1 Luhr
Premat
Rockenfeller Audi Sport Team Joest Audi R10 3:24.287 5.774
5. LMP1 Capello
Mcnish
Kristensen Audi Sport North America Audi R10 3:24.432 5.919
6. LMP1 Biela
Pirro
Werner Audi Sport North America Audi R10 3:27.580 9.067
7. LMP1 Boullion
Collard
Dumas Pescarolo Sport Pescarolo Judd 3:28.533 10.020
8. LMP1 Ito
Tachikawa
Kataoka Dome Racing Team Dome Judd S102 3:29.352 10.839
9. LMP1 Primat
Tinseau
Treluyer Pescarolo Sport Pescarolo Judd 3:30.618 12.105
10. LMP1 Panis
Pagenaud
Fassler Team Oreca Matmut Courage-Oreca Judd 3:31.243 12.730
11. LMP1 Pickett
Graf
Lammers Charouz Racing System Lola Judd 3:31.910 13.397

Edited by alpiner, 13 June 2008 - 07:46.

[alpiner]

Peugeot take top 3 grid positions for Le Mans 24 hours


Peugeot have taken this years qualifying by storm and when the chequered flag fell they occupied a very impressive 1st, 2nd and 3rd in LM P1. The Audis did begin to speed up towards the end of the session but pole is safe for the #8 Team Peugeot Total, Peugeot 908 HDI FAP driven by Lamy, Sarrazin and Wurz.

They never came under any threat all the way through two days of qualifying; however it is interesting to see that at one point when both Audi and Peugeot were running in ‘race trim’ they were both putting in steady 3:26/27 laps. So maybe they are in fact rather more evenly matched than it looks on the time sheets. Whatever the times might say there is no doubt that both teams have carefully worked out their race strategy, almost regardless of these qualifying performances. However Peugeot are facing some problems rebuilding the #9 Peugeot Sport Total, Peugeot 908 HDI FAP that crashed heavily. The team will now be under pressure to ship more spare parts down to Le Mans to virtually rebuild the car. After #7 Team Peugeot Total, Peugeot 908 HDI FAP was written off during testing the team are facing a tense build up to the race despite their tremendous outright speed advantage. The fastest petrol powered car was the #10 Charouz Racing System, Lola Aston Martin which was eventually 6th overall ahead of the #1 Audi Sport North America, Audi R10 driven by Biela, Pirro and Werner

In LMP2 the Porsche Spyders have been swapping times all the way through qualifying. It has been an impressive show and they are placed 14th and 16th overall. Next up in 19th place is the #32 Barazi Epsilon, Zytek 07S driven by Barazi, Vergers and Moseley. They are almost two seconds behind the two Porsches.

In LMGT1 The quickest car is the #63 Corvette Racing, Corvette C6.R of O'Connell, Magnussen and Fellows which has been at the top of the sheets most of the day. The surprise is seeing the #50 Larbre Competition, Saleen S7R of Bouchut, Bornhauser and Smet lying second ahead of the powerful line up in the #64 Corvette Racing, Corvette C6.R of Beretta Gavin and Papis. After a slow start the #009 Aston Martin Racing, Aston Martin DBR9 of Brabham,Garcia and Turner has moved into a more encouraging 4th in class. So there is a very interesting mix of cars in LMGT1 and they all seem pretty evenly matched.

In LMGT2 The Porsches have shown their strength and finally dominated the Ferraris with the #76 Imsa Performance Matmut, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR on pole driven by Narac, Longa and Lietz. Second in class was the #77 Team Felbermayr-Proton, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR driven by Davison, Henzler and Felbermayr sen. Third was the #96 Virgo Motorsport, Ferrari F430 GT driven by Bell,Sugden and Mullen. This was a bit of a surprise since the Ferraris were expected to be quicker than the Porsches.


So all the cars have qualified with the possible exception of the #22 Tokai University - YGK Power, Courage-Oreca Ygk Suzuki Kageyama Kurosawa which may be struggling, they are 35 seconds slower than pole and that might not have been quick enough to qualify.


LM P1
#8 Team Peugeot Total, Peugeot 908 HDI FAP Lamy Sarrazin Wurz 3:18.513 - pole time set by Sarrazin
#9 Peugeot Sport Total, Peugeot 908 HDI FAP Montagny Zonta Klein 3:18.682
#7 Team Peugeot Total, Peugeot 908 HDI FAP Gené Minassian Villeneuve 3:20.451
#2 Audi Sport North America, Audi R10 Capello McNish Kristensen 3:23.847 (set today)
#3 Audi Sport Team Joest, Audi R10 Luhr Premat Rockenfeller 3:24.287
(n.b. #10 Charouz Racing System, Lola Aston Martin Mücke Charouz Enge 3:25.158 fastest petrol car)

LM P2
#34 Van Merksteijn Motorsport, Porsche RS Spyder Van Merksteijn Verstappen Bleekemolen 3:32.301
#31 Team Essex, Porsche RS Spyder Nielsen Elgaard Maassen 3:33.441 (set today)
#32 Barazi Epsilon, Zytek 07S Barazi Vergers Moseley 3:35.344
#33 Speedy Racing Team Sebah, Lola Judd Pompidou Belicchi Zacchia 3:35.401
#45 Embassy Racing, Embassy Zytek Hughes Kane Foster 3:39.926


LM GT1
#63 Corvette Racing, Corvette C6.R O'Connell Magnussen Fellows 3:47.668
#50 Larbre Competition, Saleen S7R Bouchut Bornhauser Smet 3:47.761
#64 Corvette Racing, Corvette C6.R Beretta Gavin Papis 3:48.539
#009 Aston Martin Racing, Aston Martin DBR9 Brabham Garcia Turner 3:48.994
#007 Aston Martin Racing, Aston Martin DBR9 Wendlinger Piccini Frentzen 3:49.060 (set today)

LM GT2
#76 Imsa Performance Matmut, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR Narac Long Lietz 3:58.152 (set today)
#77 Team Felbermayr-Proton, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR Davison Henzler Felbermayr sen. 3:59.072 (set today)
#96 Virgo Motorsport, Ferrari F 430 GT Bell Sugden Mullen 3:59.820 (set today)
#80 Flying Lizard Motorsports, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR Bergmeister van Overbeek Neiman 4:00.106
#90 Farnbacher Racing, Ferrari F 430 GT Kaffer Nielsen Ehret 4:01.464 (set today)

Source: http://www.lemans.org/

[Vincenzo]

Uhvatio sam "jednim okom" u sredu uvece da je neki Pescarolo izleteo ili se pokvario? Ne znam sta se desilo, vidim da im je samo jedan auto u prvih 10.