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[/13/Ален Шмит/]

Više o novom F2 bolidu
 

F2 - 2018 CAR UNVEILED IN MONZA

New generation car revealed to international media in Italy
 

The FIA Formula 2 Championship unveiled the F2 2018 to the international media in Monza today. The new car, which will be raced in the 2018, 2019 and 2020 seasons, was revealed in the Formula 1 paddock ahead of the 9th Round of the 2017 F2 season.

The new car, which complies with the latest F1 safety standards, features architecture typical of a modern F1 car and a 3.4 litre turbo-charged Mecachrome engine, which delivers 620 HP at 8,750 rpm. The design philosophy was to refresh the car to mirror the latest updates in F1 design, and to maintain a long tradition of wheel to wheel racing.

The safety updates include changes to marshalling such as the Virtual Safety Car (VSC), Drag Reduction System (DRS) and upgraded electronics, and most notably is the first new car to be revealed featuring the Halo system, which was incorporated at the final stage of the design process.

The electronics have been enhanced with an updated ECU, which features expanded evolution possibilities for later years in an effort to future proof these components, a design decision which is in line with the usual focus on cost control. The operational costs for the teams are expected to be similar to this year.

The car has made a successful shakedown in July at the Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours, and the development programme will continue over a number of tests across the remainder of the year to accumulate sufficient mileage, to ensure that a functional and reliable car will be delivered to the teams. Two test sessions in December will be solely focussed on performance testing, where the car will be pushed to its limits ahead of the handover process to the teams.

A first car will be delivered to the teams in mid-January 2018, and the second car will be delivered in mid-February. There will be a shakedown with the teams between these dates to allow them to become acclimatised with the car ahead of the first official pre-season test.

Pirelli is once again the official tyre suppliers to the championship, and have been integral to the design process to ensure continuity with respect to the tyres.

Click here to see more images of the new car.

Charlie Whiting, FIA Director of F1 and Director, Single-Seater Department commented: “The unveiling of the 2018 FIA Formula 2 car is an important moment for the FIA as we complete the single-seater pyramid from Karting right through to the pinnacle of motor sport in the FIA Formula One World Championship.

“The plan for a more structured junior formula ladder is designed to feature cars that better prepare drivers for the next step. For Formula 2, that means we needed a car that will not only educate, but will also allow the drivers that are most ready for Formula One to shine brightest.

“The car has been developed to include improved aesthetics, as well as bringing the safety level up to the highest standards for single-seater cars – and to ultimately bring it closer to a modern Formula One car on both of these points.

“We are proud to present the 2018 FIA Formula 2 Championship car alongside the Promoter, Formula One Management, and we look forward to our continued partnership at this level with this exciting new car.”

FIA Formula 2 Championship CEO Bruno Michel said: “I am very pleased to be able to present our new car for the next three year cycle of the FIA Formula 2 Championship. Our focus has always been on providing a powerful, safe and challenging car which will encourage overtaking, and thanks to the new aerodynamics package we believe this car will both enhance racing and provide even more entertainment for our fans. Our philosophy has always been to match this with cost control for the teams, and we believe the F2 2018 will continue to limit operational costs and provide an attractive package to our teams.

“Finally, and most importantly, the F2 2018 matches the very latest F1 safety standards: we have a strong track record on safety, and this was a principle focus during the design process. I believe that the F2 2018 is the right car for the next stage of our championship, while also providing a worthy race car for the final step of the motorsport ladder for our drivers hoping to achieve their ultimate ambition: a race seat in F1.”

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The F2 2018 car specs

Dimensions

Overall length: 5224 mm (was 5065mm)

Overall width: 1900 mm (unchanged)

Overall height: 1097 mm including FOM roll hoop camera (was 1072 mm)

Wheelbase: 3135 mm (was 3120mm)

Overall weight: 720 kg (driver on-board)



Engine

V6 3.4 litre single turbo charged Mecachrome engine

Rated to 620 HP @ 8750 rpm

Fly by wire accelerator system

Rebuild after 8000 km

Maximum Torque 600 Nm

Performances

Acceleration: 0 - 100 km/h, 2.90 sec

Acceleration: 0 - 200 km/h, 6.60 sec

Maximum speed: 335 km/h (Monza aero + DRS)

Max. braking deceleration -3.5 G

Max. lateral acceleration +/- 3.9 G

Safety standards

Full FIA F1 2017 safety standards

Halo F1 specification



Monocoque and Bodywork

Survival cell - Sandwich Carbon/aluminium honeycomb structure made by Dallara

Front and rear wing - Carbon structures made by Dallara

Bodywork - Carbon - Kevlar honeycomb structures made by Dallara

DRS

Same functionality of DRS used in Formula One

Hydraulic activation

Gearbox

6-speed longitudinal Hewland sequential gearbox

Electro-hydraulic command via paddle shift from steering wheel

ZF SACHS Carbon clutch

No on-board starter, anti-stall system

Non hydraulic ramp differential

Fuel cell

FIA Standard

Premier FT5 125 litres

Electronic features

Magneti Marelli SRG 480 ECU/GCU including data logging system

Magneti Marelli PDU 12-42 power supply management unit

CAN data acquisition pre-equipment

Beacon receiver

Suspension

Double steel wishbones, pushrod operated, twin dampers and torsion bars suspension (F) and spring suspension ®

Adjustable ride height, camber and toe

Two way (F) / Four way ® adjustable Koni dampers

Adjustable anti-roll bar (Front/Rear)

Brakes

6 pistons monobloc Brembo callipers

TBC carbon-carbon brake discs and pads

Wheels and tyres

F1 2016 standard wheel dimensions

O.Z. Racing

Magnesium rims

13” x 12” front F1 2016 standard wheel dimensions

13” x 13.7” rear F1 2016 standard wheel dimensions

F2 specific Pirelli slick / wet tyres

Steering system

Non-assisted rack and pinion steering system

XAP steering wheel with dashboard, gear change and clutch paddles, marshalling & VSC display

Camera equipment

Roll hoop, nose cone and face shot camera pre-equipment.

 

[/13/Ален Шмит/]

Vrlo verovatno Lekler će voziti u Zauberu, nastavlja tamo gde je njegov najbolji drug Bjanki nažalost stao..
 

LECLERC'S MANAGER SAYS MONEGASQUE DRIVER WILL RACE IN F1 IN 2018

Nicolas Todt, the manager of Ferrari prodigy Charles Leclerc, says that the Formula 2 star will be racing in Formula 1 next season. The 19-year-old has taken motorsport by storm in 2017 and is dominating the feeder series for F1 this year, currently topping the standings by 59 points.

Leclerc is being tipped for a Sauber drive next year after the team secured a long-term deal with Ferrari to run its engines. With both Antonio Giovinazzi and Leclerc being Ferrari juniors, it is expected that at least one of them will get a race seat next season.

And Todt thinks that it will be the Monegasque driver: "Charles is a unique driver. That is obvious. This year, his priority is to win the Formula 2 title, which is something very few drivers have managed to do on debut. My goal is that he gets to formula one next season. I cannot say that this will definitely happen, but given Charles' achievements in Formula 2, I think nothing will prevent his F1 debut in 2018."

With Marcus Ericsson's backers partly financing Sauber, it is unlikely the Swede will lose his seat. It is more probable that Mercedes junior Pascal Wehrlein will be ousted: "The most important thing would be to stay in Formula 1 but I completely trust Mercedes and just concentrate on my job," the German stated.

Edited by /13/Ален Шмит/, 01 September 2017 - 11:28.

[Rad-oh-yeah?]

Re: novi Dalarin F2 bolid, ovo mnogo lici na Indi Lajt sasiju:

 

 

Ono, nabacili mu erboks, halo i malo zakomplikovali bocne usisnike po uzoru na F1 i to je manje vise to...

[Rad-oh-yeah?]

Grid penalties set for axe

Long bemoaned by fans, the application of grid penalties for replacing power unit components and gearboxes reached almost farcical levels at Monza. Nine drivers took penalties accruing 150 places and changing the qualifying results to such an extent that Lewis Hamilton on pole and Romain Grosjean, who crashed in the first session, were the only drivers to have retained their original positions. Such was the scale of the movement, Kevin Magnussen, who was knocked out in Q1, found himself in the top 10.

The fans at Monza sat through a rain-delayed qualifying and were rewarded with a thrilling finale but bar Hamilton, what they witnessed bore little resemblance to the grid that formed. Formula 1’s motorsports director, Ross Brawn, is known to oppose the system, which was instigated as a cost-cutting measure, and the FIA president, Jean Todt, was moved to suggest he would accept proposals. “If we can make the situation better, we will do it,” he said. “We are open to suggestions and we will have a meeting.” It is understood this is one meeting that will happen in the near future and that grid penalties will be a thing of the past soon.

[Dzoni_m]

Veoma jednostavno: imamo dva sampionata? Vozace ne dirajte. Kaznjavajte konstruktore. Oduzimanjem bodova za svaku komponentu preko dozvoljene ili neki % manje prilikom preraspodele novca. Prosto. Vozaci ne trebaju biti kaznjeni zbog toga. 

[Rad-oh-yeah?]

Fora je u tome sto to kaznjava sve osim najbogatijih, koji imaju debela ledja svojih majka-firmi i kojima nije toliko stalo do konstruktorske titule koliko do vozacke.

 

Mozda ih terati da za svaku prekobrojnu izmenu motora direktno uplacuju neke pare na racune ostalih timova?

[/13/Ален Шмит/]

Porsche confirms F1 interest after Italian GP visit

Porsche's financial chief has confirmed that the Stuttgart manufacturer is seriously considering a return to Formula 1 as an engine supplier under the proposed 2021 regulations.

Lutz Meschke, Deputy Chairman of the Executive Board and Member of the Board for Finances and IT, met with Ross Brawn and the sport's other bosses at the Italian Grand Prix.

Although it has not been directly involved with the sport since its disastrous relationship with the Footwork team in 1991, Porsche has retained a commercial involvement with the F1 organisation through the Supercup, paying for it to have a place on the support programme.

The F1 opportunity has opened up because Porsche stops its LMP1 project at the end of this season, having decided that it doesn't get sufficient return for what is in effect an F1-size budget, but without the income and sponsorship that the likes of Mercedes enjoy.

The company has already made a commitment to Formula E with a works-backed team from the 2019/20 season. However, it has also sent representatives to the series of recent meetings about the 2021 F1 engine regulations.

It has been encouraged by the direction that is being taken, with a move to cheaper and simpler technology than is currently used.

"F1 could be one of the right places," Meschke told Motorsport.com. "As you know Formula E is very important for us now, and F1 is always a good topic to think about. And I think we are in quite good discussions regarding the new engine."

Asked if the current plans for a twin-turbo V6 with less technology could attract Porsche to F1 he said: "Absolutely. We have to cut costs in F1, and it's a good way to reach this target."

Meschke also confirmed that "discussions are around being a supplier," and thus there are no plans to form a works team.

Among the obvious possible partners are Williams, which enjoyed a technical relationship with Porsche before selling its Hybrid Power division, and Red Bull, which has extensive connections with the VW Group.

McLaren has a strong history with Porsche through the TAG turbo collaboration of 1983-87, but they are now competitors in the road car market.

F1 open arms

F1's commercial boss Sean Bratches said that the sport's new owners would be delighted to have Porsche on board in 2021.

"Ultimately we're trying to create a platform and environment where more engine manufacturers and brands and teams come into this sport and make it a compelling business proposition to do so," Bratches told Motorsport.com.

"As the individual who kind of runs marketing and branding at F1 the inclusion of Porsche, which is a heritage racing brand in our sport, would be highly valued."

[Dzoni_m]

Fora je u tome sto to kaznjava sve osim najbogatijih, koji imaju debela ledja svojih majka-firmi i kojima nije toliko stalo do konstruktorske titule koliko do vozacke.
 
Mozda ih terati da za svaku prekobrojnu izmenu motora direktno uplacuju neke pare na racune ostalih timova?

Indirektno da, to bi i radili. Svaki postotak odbitka vise para za kolac medju ostatkom timova ko je u limitima, vise para dobije. ako neki tim ostane sa neiskoriscenom komponentom, dobije bonus.


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[Rad-oh-yeah?]

Indirektno da, to bi i radili. Svaki postotak odbitka vise para za kolac medju ostatkom timova ko je u limitima, vise para dobije. ako neki tim ostane sa neiskoriscenom komponentom, dobije bonus. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

To je za kraj sezone i to je OK, medjutim ja bi ih terao da placaju i momentalno cim ubace novu komponentu. Onoliko miliona koliko mesta na gridu sleduje po sadasnjim pravilima, znaci za menjac 5 milki, SUS komponentu PJ 25 milki itd, i taj novac se odmah deli na ravne casti ostalim timovima jos istog vikenda.

[4_Webber]

Ne znam zasto bi bio smak sveta ako bi jednostavno povecali broj dozvoljenih komponenti sa 4 na 6.

[Rad-oh-yeah?]

Zato sto pojedini timovi ne mogu da priuste ni ovih 4 a kamo li 6.

 

Mozda bi jedno od resenja moglo biti i to da FIA kao uslov za homologaciju stavi i fiksiranu maksimalnu cenu po PJ preko koje proizvodjac ne sme da je prodaje timovima-musterijama. Umesto danasnjih 20+ miliona po PJ staviti je na ne vise od 5, pa onda mogu i da skroz ukinu ogranicenje broja komponenti.

[/13/Ален Шмит/]

Sve je to samo "sravljanje flastera na otvorenu ranu", dok ne dođu novi jednostavniji motori biće izmišljeno sto privremenih pravila. Iskreno nebi me čudilo da već sledeće sezone nešto ne izmene u sred godine 

[/13/Ален Шмит/]

Italijanski Motorsport.com, Gugl Translejt u akciji.
 

Renault chooses Sainz, Williams offers a chance at Kubica?

McLaren will close the engine deal with Honda. The Japanese will agree with the Red Bull, so they will bring their pilot to Faenza. Carlos is released from Red Bull to go to Enstone. Kubica laughs with Wehrlein for Grove.

After three seasons in Toro Rosso Carlos Sainz has the suitcase in his hand. Last July we witnessed an exchange of statements (via media) very tense between the Spanish and the leaders of the Red Bull, or the Horner-Marko tandem.

Sainz was called to the order by reminding him of the contract that links him to Red Bull for next year, but something has changed.

If, as it seems, Honda and Toro Rosso will be able to find a point of understanding to start from 2018 a new technical partnership, Carlos is ready for the chance of passage in Renault.

Hypothesis that is more and more concrete, to the point that some pilots managers give it as an agreement to be officially formalized. But what has changed since last July? The arrival of Honda obviously meant the end of the partnership with Renault a year earlier than the timing of the supply contract.

The French House may not have forced his hand on the legal front, making sure in return for Sainz's release and his presence in the team for 2018.

The passage of Honda from McLaren to Toro Rosso would prompt Fernando Alonso's confirmation in McLaren, removing any hope of Williams being able to become a subject of interest by Spanish.

The seat at the side of Stroll is thus destined to be the most sought after in the autumn market. Felipe Massa is given as a go-ahead and at home Williams will inherit the candidate's notebook in the hands of Renault until a few days ago. A list that should contain the names of Sergio Perez, Robert Kubica and Pascal Wehrlein.

The Mexican would like to leave the Force India, but the team at Monza's weekend has spoken to him for a long time, confirming that he will hold much to his presence even for the next World Cup. Force India has an option in her favor, but she would not want to force her hand, trying to convince Perez to stay in the team for another season without resorting to legal counsel.

As Sainz has confirmed in Renault as much as possible, Kubica will no longer be bound to the French House, and it can not be ruled out that other teams can also be attentive, while Wehrlein's candidacy is totally tied to the decisions it will take the Mercedes.

Silly season u punom jeku, u najuđem scenariju bi to trebalo izgledati ovako: Sajnc u Renoou umesto Palmera a zamenjuje ga u TRu Gealel, Kubica menja Masu koji odlazi u FE. Lekler dolazi na Verlajnovo mesto. Perez i Okon ostaju u FI čekajući šta će doneti silly season sledeće sezone a Verlajn odlazi iz F1. Lavinu ovih događaja će izgleda pokrenuti TR kada budu doneli odluku o PJ ovih dana. 

[leone]

Zato sto pojedini timovi ne mogu da priuste ni ovih 4 a kamo li 6.

 

 

 

 

Glavni razlog uvodjenja 4 je stednja, sto je totalni apsurd. Ako potrosis 4 sve ostale moras kupovati, jedina druga opcija je da se ne trkas nakon 4 potrosena, tako da nijesi nista ustedio.

 

Po meni najrazumnija odluka je kaznjavanje konstruktora bodovima, novcano ili oboje, a vozace ostaviti tamo gdje su se kvalifikovali.

[Rad-oh-yeah?]

Pure speculation?
September 6, 2017 by Joe Saward

This is the season of pure speculation in Formula 1, if one looks at some of the stories to be found on the internet. It reads sometimes as if the bottom-feeders, committed to providing x number of news stories a day, are simply linking every driver with every seat that is available…

In reality, the silly season is largely hot air, with few major changes expected between now and next year. It looks like Sergio Perez will end up at Renault, Pascal Wehrlein at Force India, if the team can be convinced to take him, and Charles Leclerc at Sauber. Williams will likely remain unchanged unless the team can find someone over 25 who is better than Felipe Massa – and who hasn’t already been and gone from F1. Hence the recent Kubica stories.

Fernando Alonso will stay at McLaren if Honda leaves. We do not expect to see Fernando opening any Honda dealerships any time soon and the Japanese are unlikely to welcome him into one of its Indycars any time soon. The fact that Takuma Sato last week announced he was leaving Andretti Autosport for Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing, suggests that’s Michael Andretti’s recent negotiations with Chevrolet did not go down well in Japan, even if Michael has now re-upped with Honda. The Japanese are big on loyalty…

The big question in F1 is what happens at Honda and I have a theory about this. Honda is a listed company. There are rules it must follow and keeping decisions quiet is frowned upon by stock market regulators. Honda was due to have a board meeting on Monday night to discuss F1 and the fact it is now Wednesday, heading towards Thursday in Japan, would seem to suggest that the board has made a decision which did not need to be announced. Logically, that would that it will stay in F1, rather than quit. That may not be the case, but listed companies tend to make announcements quickly. The board was keen on reviving the McLaren-Honda legend of 1988-1992 to give itself more appeal in the car markets, but it seems that this choice is no longer available, as McLaren is intent on termination and a switch to Renault for 2018, 2019 and 2020. After that it is expected that the team will build its own engines for the new F1 rules in 2021. This may seem tough on Honda, but it is fair to say that the Honda engines have been a massive disappointment.

McLaren feels it must make the change just as back in 2008 Honda felt it must quit the sport. As it turned out that was not a great decision as the team was sold to its management, with sufficient money to avoid all the termination costs that would otherwise have been incurred. Honda then had to watch as Brawn GP won the world title, using a Honda chassis and Mercedes engines.

No announcement suggests no pullout and one might assume that work is now ongoing to complete a deal with Red Bull to supply Toro Rosso in 2018 and Red Bull Racing in 2019 – if things go well in the first year. The deal would be financially advantageous to the teams – in other words they would save Red Bull a ton of money. You might ask, why would Red Bull care about cash? Well, there is a school of thought in F1 that is arguing that Red Bull boss Dietrich Mateschitz has had his fill of F1 and wants to move on to new dangerous activities to keep Red Bull edgy for the next generation of adrenaline freaks. He is contractually committed to F1 until the end of 2020, with massive penalty clauses if he pulls Red Bull Racing out before then. This could cost hundreds of millions of dollars and so the best strategy is to stay involved, take the prize money on offer (which is why there are penalty clauses) and reduce costs as much as possible by doing deals for the remaining years. The TAG-Heuer engine branding deal is just such as arrangement, while the Aston Martin sponsorship deal looks more like an exit strategy, with the team becoming Aston Martin-owned in the long term. Obviously Aston Martin is short of cash, but royalty deals on the (Red Bull-designed) Valkyrie supercar project justify the signage on the F1 cars and a Red Bull fade-out, with the Austrian firm remaining the title sponsor for three years, but paying nothing in 2021, 2022 and 2023, means that the purchase price can be made much more manageable.

This probably explains why Christian Horner has become such a convert to cost-cutting and cheaper engines in the future, in expectation that he will lead (and be a shareholder in) an Aston Martin F1 team, securing Adrian Newey’s services with shares, as well. Thus if the Honda engine is decent and there’s money behind it, that would get Red Bull Racing through 2019 and 2020, at much reduced cost.

If one looks at Red Bull’s sister squad, Scuderia Toro Rosso, it is already known that the team is for sale. Almost half the operation now works in the U.K. And the team recently re-signed James Key, to maintain the value in the business. Getting Hondas in 2018, 2019 and 2020, would get the team to the end of the current commercial agreements and ready for the new era of F1 in 2021. The relationship with Honda would be good for whoever owns the team by then and would add value to the team if the Honda engines become competitive. A similar Red Bull fade out sponsorship in 2018, 2019 and 2020 would mean that the price could be reasonable for any buyer out there and while moving the whole team to England might not be desirable for the folks in Faenza, it does make sense, although these days teams can be a little more multinational, as we see with Haas, which has designers and manufacturing in Italy, research and development and marketing in the US, and the race team in the U.K.

The key to these moves is a sensible set of cost-effective rules for 2021 and beyond, but these seems to be in the pipeline. If the costs can be brought down and the revenues pushed up then more manufacturers will come to F1, which explains the Porsche and Alfa Romeo stories of late. Others may follow…
 

Edited by Rad-oh-yeah?, 06 September 2017 - 12:58.