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[alpiner]

Kad ce u F1?

Nikada više kao redovan vozač. Možda i dobije neku promotivnu vožnju, ali to je sve

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U Formulu 1 nikad neće ući kao stalni vozač, Indikar je moguć (ako više povrati funkciju ruke Indikar je dobra opcija zbog godina), Formula E je njemu najbolja i najlepša opcija jer je tamo marketing neverovatan i mladi fannovi će ga lako zavoleti (mi stariji ga odavno poštujemo) a najbolja opcija mu je Šampionat Izdržljivosti. Za Superformulu nisam siguran jer ne znam njegove želje.

[Downforce]

Nikada više kao redovan vozač. Možda i dobije neku promotivnu vožnju, ali to je sve

 

Jebote koliko sam zeleo njegovu titulu u F1...

 

Kakva steta. Kakva uzasna steta.

[Rad-oh-yeah?]

 Indikar je moguć (ako više povrati funkciju ruke Indikar je dobra opcija zbog godina)

 

Nema sanse, Indikar nema servo-volan i treba jako puno fizicke snage za njega. 

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Jebote koliko sam zeleo njegovu titulu u F1...

 

Kakva steta. Kakva uzasna steta.

 

Same  BMV je žestoko omašio s onim njihovim KERSom do bola. Pošto je njihova filozofija težila ka kojekakvim hibridima morali su nekako ubudžiti KERS u F1.09 bolid pa da ga jebeš. To je sahranilo šanse za titlule jer su imali zadat plan koji su s lakoćom ispunjavali do te sudbonosne 2009. (2007. prvi podij, 2008. prva pobeda i 2009. titula). Ko je tad znao da će Meklaren i Ferari toliko u****i motku 2009. godine nako toliko godina dominacije i da će jadni Red Bul i još jadnija Honda biti glavni protagonisti za titlulu.

 

Da su se rešili KERSa u početku razvoja F1.09 ko zna koliko bi F1.09 bilo kompetetivan u 2009. Kubica bi ga smestio rame uz rame s Bronom i RB a Hajdfeld bi uredno skupljao bodove...

 

 

 

Nema sanse, Indikar nema servo-volan i treba jako puno fizicke snage za njega. 

 

Hvalka Radoje na odgovoru, vidi se da ne znam ništa o Indikaru 

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Da su se rešili KERSa u početku razvoja F1.09 ko zna koliko bi F1.09 bilo kompetetivan u 2009. Kubica bi ga smestio rame uz rame s Bronom i RB a Hajdfeld bi uredno skupljao bodove...

 

 

Kakva je to grdoba od bolida bila majko mila...

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Nema sanse, Indikar nema servo-volan i treba jako puno fizicke snage za njega. 

 

 

Od ove slike fotografisane nakon drugog testa u GP3 bolidu mi se jednostavno plače, toliko mi je žao čoveka i onog talenta kojeg ima i s kojim je mogao biti F1 šampion jednog dana. Srce mi se slomilo gledajući tu nesretnu ruku na ovoj slici. Pravo je čudo što on može voziti GP3 bolid ili bilo šta što je vozio nakon 2011. 

[Rad-oh-yeah?]

Jebiga, top Indi vozaci moraju da izgledaju ovako:

 

 

(mada, fizicka snaga nije toliko bitna na ovalima koliko na ostalim stazama)

[alpiner]

Da su se rešili KERSa u početku razvoja F1.09 ko zna koliko bi F1.09 bilo kompetetivan u 2009. Kubica bi ga smestio rame uz rame s Bronom i RB a Hajdfeld bi uredno skupljao bodove...

 

Taj auto je od početka imao hendikep u dizajnu odnosno nije imao dupli difuzor. To je bio najveći problem u odnosu na najbrže, a ne KERS

[Rad-oh-yeah?]

Taj auto je od početka imao hendikep u dizajnu odnosno nije imao dupli difuzor. To je bio najveći problem u odnosu na najbrže, a ne KERS

 

Imao je taj auto puno vise hendikepa, mada definitivno nedostatak duplog difuzora je bio najveci od njih. S obzirom koliko su rano krenuli u dizajniranje ocekivao sam neko cudo aerodinamike a uspeli su da naprave bolid koji izgleda kao da je sastavljan od lego kockica. Pored njega svi ostali bolidi su delovali kao spejssatl.

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Ja se baš tako dobro ne sećam (internet sam uveo tek sredinom 2010 godine pa su mi komentatori bili glavni izvor informacija uz vesti, čestitke Blažičku, Novaku, Jergoviću i nikad prežaljenom Aleksandru Babiću) ali verujem da su se oni previše zabavljali KERSom i da se nisu dovoljno fokusirali na razvoj aerodinamike (upravo taj "lego" oblik to možda i dokazuje). BIlo kako bilo upropastili su velike šanse za titule jer su imali jake vozače u kokpitima i potpuno pometen vrh. 

[Rad-oh-yeah?]

Cela ta prica sa BMW i Zauberom je ustvari prilicno tuzna i pravi primer excel trkanja. Bili su 2008. u borbi za titulu i nakon pobede u Kanadi odluce da zaustave svaki rad na bolidu jer kao ispunili su planirano za tu godinu i titula im nije upisana kao jedan od ciljeva? Kubica je cuda pravio sa tim bolidom i tim ga je potpuno izdao da bi se navodno fokusirali na 2009. i promenu pravila. I onda nakon svega toga oni se pojave sa onakvim debilnim bolidom, ono najjednostavnje i najbazicnije moguce tumacenje pravila bez imalo inventivnosti i truda ulozenog da se to uoblici u nesto iole funkcionalno.

 

 

Uporedi ovo sa Bronom, cak i ako zanemarimo dupli difuzor (koji je OGROOOOOOOOMNA prednost) koliko su ovde cistije linije, koliko su detaljnije obradjena prednja krila, koliko je ocigledno vise sve to promisljeno - pomislio bi da su u Zauberu bolid radili u zadnji momenat a ne Bron:

 

 

Ili vidi Njuija, ali od njega se nista manje ne bi ni trebalo ocekivati:

 

 

Ukratko, u BMW su maksimalno usrali motku, i onda da sramota bude jos veca samo podvili rep i pobegli. Tipican primer kako izgleda kada korporativne birokrate hoce da se igraju trkanja, ali tako da ih to kosta sto manje.

 

(Imamo prilike nesto slicno da gledamo i zadnjih par sezona sa Hondom.)

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Ja i dalje ne mogu verovati koliko su Mercedes i Red Bull traljavo odradili kompletni program testiranja 2017 pneumatika. Ferari je dušu izvadio gumama i bolidu na testu a Mercedes i RB nisu čak ni pošten bolid sklopili za testiranja i onda se oboje čude što je Ferari tako odjednom brži u odnosu na prošlu sezonu. Hamilton se malo pogubio i više nije kao nekad, jbt on je pre debija u Meklarenu vozio abnormalni broj testnih krugova i tu se videla njegova strast prema takmičenju, Pireli pruži mu šansu prošle godine i šta on uradi- odvozi samo 50 km pod izgovorom da mu zdravlje nije baš najbolje.

 

A RB izjavio da mu je baš ovaj test pneumatika naškodio u velikoj meri a gle čuda Ferari je nakupio toliko vrednih podataka uz pomoć magije ili čega već. Aman saberite se Mercedesu i Red Bulu, Ferari će vas pojesti za doručak ove godine.
 

Mercedes-Teamchef Toto Wolff brought the situation after the GP Monaco to the point: " FerrariClick here for the matching products on Amazon.de! is now the World Cup favorite and we the underdog." Sebastian Vettel's third season and the superior performance of the Ferrari reminded us of a set of Vettel in front of Monaco Weekend: "We could have won all races this year ." You can only say this: True.
The success of Ferrari has many fathers. They all come to light at first. And in some mosaic stones of the puzzle, the competition has to ask whether she has not slept there. For example, the 25 test days for Pirellis wide tires last autumn. Only Mercedes , FerrariFormula Schmidt GP Monaco: Ferrari has the best car! and Red Bull had the money, the resources and the team to build a test vehicle on the basis of a 2015 car, which could be upgraded to simulate the 2017 output numbers.
Ferrari-Muletto single car with wide tail wing
The FIA ​​made strict regulations as to the extent to which the cars could be modified for the purpose of more contact pressure. The measures were only permitted in the areas of front wing, rear wing and underbody. MercedesClick here for the matching products on Amazon.de! , Ferrari and Red Bull went different ways. Today you know: Only Ferrari did it right.
The upgraded Ferrari SF15-T is supposed to have the lowest output of the three Mulettos according to Pirelli information. But the technicians from Maranello probably did not mind. They wanted to learn a lot about the 2017 car and the 2017 tires.
In the car Ferrari mainly changed the parts of the vehicle, which would give the greatest insights with regard to 2017. The SF15-T was the only test carrier equipped with a wide 2017-sized tailgate. He was the only car to expand the diffuser area to simulate the 2017 expansion as realistically as possible. The only thing that lowered the baffles in front of the side boxes. And the only thing that added additional flaps and vertical flow aids on the front wing, which are not quite unlike today's concept. In addition, the angle of incidence was significantly increased, so as to exercise the future. For this, Ferrari varied the length of the side aprons.
Ferrari without correlation problems
Red Bull and MercedesCheap leasing offers can be found here! contented themselves with Ferrari with measures, which brought more downforce, but with a view 2017 in part were completely pointless. Red Bull mounted a deep element under the 2015 tailgate to generate more pressure in the rear and to support the diffuser. The so-called "beam wing" is not allowed in the current regulations. To do this, place aprons on the flanks of the floor to seal it better to the street. This, too, would be illegal.
Mercedes also operated with a lower wing in the rearVideo BMW M4 Mercedes-AMG C 63 S and a stronger position and side sealing strips. But apparently the experiment did not bring enough insights to venture into this territory. Mercedes was looking for a longer car.
In retrospect, it becomes clear that Mercedes and Red Bull could not learn much about their Muletto with regard to the 2017 car. Ferrari on the other hand. The modifications on the front wing, the position of the baffle plates, the larger diffuser and the rear wing in the 2017 format clearly indicated the expected flow conditions. Almost a match with the wind tunnel data of the right 2017 model. It is noticeable that Ferrari, as one of the few teams, did not complain about correlation problems between the laboratory and the race track . Perhaps because they were discovered and turned off during the Pirelli test phase.
Interesting is the point with the tail wing. The FIA guidelines for the Pirelli test cars published in the GP SpainClick here for the matching products on Amazon.de! 2016 looked as if only one point were available in the area of ​​the tailgate: "Any number of elements and geometries in any range between 300 and 950 millimeters above the reference plane are allowed."
Apparently, Ferrari interpreted the word "geometry", in the upper part, to extend the entire wing to the new permitted 95 centimeters. And further down the end plates are exactly the same as in the rear wing. This rule of law also speaks for the bolder approach in Ferrari's design office. One distrusts more.
Vettel tested 2,228 kilometers, Hamilton 50
Ferrari has also developed the development work for Pirelli for its own benefit with the tires. Ferrari pledged his test pilots. Sebastian Vettel spiked 2228 kilometers in the service of Pirelli, Kimi Raikkönen 1054 kilometers. At Mercedes and Red Bull mainly test drivers did the work.
Pascal Wehrlein and Pierre Gasly in all honors: They can not have as much experience in tire development as the World Champion or GP winner. Nico Rosberg drove just 209 kilometers with the wider Pirelli soles, Lewis Hamilton 50 kilometers. Max Verstappen sat 517 kilometers in Red Bulls Muletto, Daniel Ricciardo 200 kilometers.
In addition, Vettel has also joined the wider tire for the work of Pirelli outside the race track. Pirelli President Marco Tronchetti Provera betrayed in Monte Carlo: "Sebastian has visited us several times in Milan to discuss his impressions with our engineers as part of the rules. A driver of his experience has thus gained so much knowledge that he and his technicians at Ferrari could work out the necessary adjustments to keep the tires in the optimum operating window. "

 

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