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#1 Hobbit slayer

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Posted 11 December 2005 - 20:58

Neo-Nazi group joins the fray

December 12, 2005

YOUNG neo-Nazis yesterday infiltrated the riots at North Cronulla, promoting their white supremacist cause.

One young woman was seen proudly holding up a poster that read: "Aussies fighting back!"

It advertised a group called the Patriotic Youth League.

Founded by former Newcastle student and One Nation activist Stuart McBeth in 2002, the league describes itself as a "radical nationalist" group. It is widely considered to be a neo-Nazi organisation.

It has links to the German-based skinhead group Volksfront as well as the like-minded British Nationalist Party and the New Zealand National Front.



The league has campaigned for the deportation of immigrants and keeping foreign students out of universities.

League spokesman Luke Connors said he had been forbidden to comment on the Cronulla riots or the events leading up to them.

"I've been given instructions not to say anything," Mr Connors said.

Race riots spread to suburbs[/B]

RACIAL violence erupted in several Sydney suburbs last night in retaliation for a rampage by thousands of young residents through Cronulla that turned the seaside suburb into a battlefield.

Political, community and religious leaders joined stunned locals to condemn an afternoon of violence by a crowd that turned on people of Middle Eastern appearance and those trying to protect them, with police and ambulance officers also attacked.

As the violence spread, police cars raced through Sydney streets from Cronulla to Miranda, Brighton-le-Sands, Rockdale, Maroubra, Woolooware and Tempe. Police said they had received reports of firearms being "flashed" threateningly but not discharged. "So far we have had no one shot," an officer said.

A 23-year-old man was in St George Hospital in a serious condition after a fight in Woolooware about 10.25pm. A radio report said he had a knife embedded in his back. Police said the man was with friends when he had an altercation outside a golf club with a "group of males of Mediterranean or Middle Eastern appearance".

In Brighton-le-Sands a group of people were reported to have taken down the Australian flag at the Brighton RSL Club and burnt it in the street. Youths were seen at a garage filling bottles with petrol in nearby Monterey.

Police closed Marine Parade, Maroubra, where people converged in vehicles on the beachfront and began fighting with locals including members of the Bra Boys surf gang. Police said 50 carloads of youths smashed more than 100 vehicles with baseball bats and other weapons. In the same suburb a young girl was punched in the face.

In Rockdale police gathered in riot gear following reports of youths armed with crowbars near the train station after 10pm, a car driver trying to run down a police officer, and items being thrown at police cars in Bay Street, Brighton-le-Sands. The street was blocked off.

Around North Cronulla beach and the surrounding streets, drunk teenagers communicated with each other on walkie-talkies about rumoured sightings of Lebanese gangs.

Commanders from the Bankstown and Campsie patrols were on alert amid fears of outbreaks of violence. Shortly before midnight police received reports of a convoy of up to 40 carloads of youths heading from Punchbowl Oval to the eastern suburbs.

By 12.30am today there were reports of 20 cars with men of Middle Eastern appearance at a BP petrol station in Cronulla, throwing rocks.

At least 13 people were injured during the earlier violence in Cronulla - including five police - and 12 people had been arrested last night.

The Premier, Morris Iemma, led a chorus of condemnation of the Cronulla attacks. "These hooligans have brought shame upon themselves," he said. "Some today tried to hide behind the Australian flag. The Australia that I know, and intend to preserve as Premier, does not support the sort of behaviour that we saw today."

The Police Commissioner, Ken Moroney, said the rioters - many of them carrying the flag and even singing the anthem - were "clearly un-Australian". "I'm ashamed as a man and as the Commissioner of Police," he said. "Never have I seen a mob turn like they have today, particularly on … women and … the NSW Ambulance Service. That has brought a higher level of shame to those involved."

There had "clearly … been a level of racial vilification … and those who are found to behave this way will be prosecuted".

One bashing victim, 19-year-old Mustafa, said at Sutherland Hospital: "They threw bottles, broken bottles, food, anything they could get their hands on. And what were we doing? We were there for a swim."

Another victim, who gave his name only as Moot, said: "We are going to have the last laugh. I got beaten up by 50 people. I am half Lebanese, part-Aboriginal. I am more Australian than the Anglos."

The Assistant Commissioner, Mark Goodwin, who co-ordinated the riot response, said a taskforce would review video footage.

The violence followed a week of simmering tension after an attack the previous Sunday on two lifesavers. Appeals by text message for "Aussies" to descend on the beach to reclaim it drew a crowd estimated at 5000 people, but a carnival atmosphere in the morning gave way to an ugly mood as a hard core of about 200 turned violent. Thousands chanted them on.

The trouble began with scuffles about midday. As the crowd moved along the beach and foreshore area, a man on the back of a utility began to shout "No more Lebs" - a chant picked up by the group around him. Others in the crowd yelled "Aussie, Aussie, Aussie … Oi, Oi, Oi". Members of the mob set upon their prey with fists, feet, flags and beer bottles. Two paramedics were injured as they tried to get victims out of the North Cronulla Surf Life Saving Club, where they had fled to escape the rioters. One of the women had fled into the clubhouse for safety after her headscarf was ripped off.

The crowd broke the windows of the ambulance and kicked its doors as the officers attempted to get the group out. Police, who used capsicum spray and batons in their battle to quell the rioters, were also pelted with beer bottles, and in some cases their cars were swamped and stomped on as they tried to move from one violent flare-up to the next. They sometimes appeared powerless to keep up with the moving mob.

An 18-year-old man who had ventured to the beach for a dip just before 11am was the first to be targeted. He was chased by 200 people to the Northies Hotel, where 20 bouncers joined police in holding back a crowd that swelled to several thousand.

Many people were drinking in a nearby park - some clearly underage. Late yesterday hotels and bottle shops agreed to stop takeaway alcohol sales.

One man was taken by police into Northies, which became a "safe haven". Police also set up a safe house in the North Cronulla clubhouse.

About 7.30pm a young man of Lebanese appearance, arms held out imploringly, sprinted south on a footpath towards the protective shield of the police stationed at Cronulla Beach, hotly pursued by a drunken mob numbering hundreds. He outran the mob and was saved by police, who placed him in the back of a police van, which was then surrounded by the mob.

As the van drove away, one young Caucasian girl laughed and said to a male companion: "That was sick. I've never seen a dumb Leb run so fast. How good was that?"

Earlier a man was cornered in Mitchell Street and had several bottles smashed over his head while he was punched and kicked by dozens of screaming people.

He had been walking with two other men when he was hit by a young man draped in the Australian flag. A bystander tried to stop the assault, saying "He's not a Leb, he's not a Leb".

A lone policeman came to his aid, spraying a canister of capsicum spray to try to disperse the crowd until more support arrived.

Many shopkeepers closed their doors as the crowd converged on Cronulla station. Two men who had just stepped off a train were bashed by about 50 people after they were forced against the carriage. Police said the invasion of the station appeared to have been prompted by a bogus text message saying a trainload of people was due to arrive from Bankstown.

Sarah Id, 17, and her sister Amy, 15, from Sutherland, who were both born in the area and whose parents are Lebanese immigrants, found themselves under the protection of police and transit security guards as they waited for their train while 1000 people stood opposite. The pair had gone to Cronulla Beach, as they had done most weekends as children, "just to get a tan".

"We had to get out because everyone was telling us to go home. Both girls and guys were shouting at us and a woman told us to watch our backs," Sarah said.

"They were saying, 'You don't belong here'. We were born here and went to Jannali High."

Neither the Prime Minister nor the federal Opposition Leader wanted to comment last night.

#2 Indy

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 01:15

Navodno je u pitanju vidjilante akcija kao "odgovor" na konstantno divljanje libanskih bandi u tom kraju.

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 01:51

"Konstanto divljanje libanskih bandi" su batine koje su prosle nedelje dobila dva spasioca od nekoliko Libanaca, nakon sto su zatvorili plazu (redovan postupak kad plivanje postane opasno zbog ajkule ili jake struje). Na tom mestu (North Cronulla SLSC) na toj plazi se takve tuce desavaju poslednjih cetrdeset godina, otkako je surf postao siroko popularan.

Veci deo mase koja se juce okupila da lincuje sve Libance koji se pojave na plazi su cinili dosljaci sa zapada grada, u americkom zargonu bi ih zvali rednecks. Od prosle nedelje su grupe sklone glasanju za Paulin Hanson pozivale na okupljanje, da se 'osvete' Libancima.


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Posted 12 December 2005 - 02:26

Za pismene & dobronamerne pise "navodno je u pitanju...".

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 02:34

jednom je bio topik o AU, na kome je neko postovao slike suncanih AU plaza... neki su, opet, pljuckali po tome tvrdeci da su cesti slucajevi melanome...

sada se, izgleda, vodi borba oko toga cije su plaze - AU ili libanske :wub:

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 02:49

jednom je bio topik o AU, na kome je neko postovao slike suncanih AU plaza... neki su, opet, pljuckali po tome tvrdeci da su cesti slucajevi melanome...

sada se, izgleda, vodi borba oko toga cije su plaze - AU ili libanske :wub:

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ma vazno da je melanoma srpska pravoslavna...

#7 Gojko & Stojko

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 03:45

Za pismene & dobronamerne pise "navodno je u pitanju...".

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Za pismene i dobronamerne si napisao doslovno:

Navodno je u pitanju vidjilante akcija kao "odgovor" na konstantno divljanje libanskih bandi u tom kraju.



gde postojanje libanskih bandi i njihovo divljanje uopste nije oznaceno kao 'navodno' nego konstantno.

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 04:40

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 04:49

A stand on beach thugs
By ANITA QUIGLEY
December 10, 2005

A YOUNG woman this week told a TV camera crew of the intimidation she has experienced on Cronulla beach.

"They'll stand over you while you're sunbaking, block your sun so they get your attention, then say, 'She's not worth doing 55 years for'," she told them.

For those unsure of what these lowlifes are referring to, it's the length of the prison sentence which was given to Sydney's infamous gang rapist, Bilal Skaf.

Clearly, there's a deep cultural problem that exists with some of the second-generation young men of Middle Eastern descent who live in this country.

Our senior police officers have referred to them in the past as "entrepreneurial criminals". By this they mean they will form loose associations with others in the criminal milieu to take part in just about any illegal activity.

Taskforce Gain was set up after a spate of drive-by shootings in Sydney's south-west and continues to target Middle Eastern criminals involved in drugs, car rebirthing and extortion. You name it, and these men are into it, so it seems.

Now, even the most quintessential Australian pastime - spending a day at the beach - is at risk from these youths looking to cause nothing but trouble.

North Cronulla beach has been the scene of two incidents in the past week - an attack on two lifeguards on Sunday, reportedly by a gang of Middle Eastern youths, and a brawl later in the week.

The beauty of this island continent we call home is the equality our shores offer - literally. Here in NSW we don't have private beaches. Go to Bondi most mornings and James Packer, the son of Australia's richest man, can be enjoying the waves next to you.

The officer leading the crackdown against the youths, Assistant Commissioner Mark Goodwin, was right when he spoke out this week.

"The Australian way is about coming to the beach with your towel and sunscreen, and maybe a book, and lying back and relaxing," he said. "It's not about congregating and swarming in groups for any sort of anti-social behaviour."

Now Premier Morris Iemma has promised the law will come down hard on those causing trouble. And what of these Middle Eastern youths' families, and community leaders? They must have more than an inkling that many in their community are up to no good.

I can no more offer answers than the next person as to why this generation of men feel the need to be so anti-Australian.

But anyone who can attack a lifesaver - or shield those responsible - deserves nothing but our contempt, and to face the full consequences of the law.


http://www.dailytele...5001035,00.html

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 04:50

Да ли је познато какав је економски background бијених и оних који бију. На пример, да ли су бијени изразито сиромашнији или богатији од оних који бију? Да ли једни и/или други у знатном броју живе од социјалне помоћи? Да ли се за једне и/или друге може рећи да живе у ''гетоима'', ако таквог чега у Сиднеју има? Ако то не, колика је градска етничка (у смислу имигрантског порекла) груписаност/раздвојеност у Сиднеју?

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 05:11

Да ли је познато какав је економски background бијених и оних који бију. На пример, да ли су бијени изразито сиромашнији или богатији од оних који бију? Да ли једни и/или други у знатном броју живе од социјалне помоћи? Да ли се за једне и/или друге може рећи да живе у ''гетоима'', ако таквог чега у Сиднеју има? Ако то не, колика је градска етничка (у смислу имигрантског порекла) груписаност/раздвојеност у Сиднеју?

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Prosle godine je jedan momak Aboridzin bezao od policije na biciklu, pao na siljak od ograde i poginuo. To je prouzrokovalo veliki (za ovdasnje uslove) nered u kvartu koji je u samom centru grada, gde opet u par ulica postoji nesto sto bi se vrlo labavo moglo nazvati 'geto'. Te zgrade i kuce nisu sve "housing commission", ali svejedno vecina zivi na socijalnoj pomoci, i ima dosta dilera droge. Postoje planovi da se tih par ulica rekonstruise (pri cemu preko puta tog Eveleigh St. ima dosta stanova od pola miliona dolara, a kuce su jos skuplje). Sve u svemu, jedno vece je stotinak lokalaca bacalo molotovljeve koktele na policiju, i posle se sve smirilo. Momak koji je poginuo je imao duzi kriminalni dosije, po svemu sudeci je bezao od policije nakon sto je oteo tasnu nekoj zeni na ulici.

Ove godine je u jednom kraju na zapadu grada policija jurila kradljivce automobila, i u poteri su se momci slupali u drvo - vozac je preziveo, ali su dva momka saputnika poginula. Nakon toga su izbili neredi koji su trajali par dana - to predgradje je iskljucivo naseljeno belcima, nizeg socio-ekonomskog statusa, vecina smestaja je houssing commission, ali nezaposlenost u predgradju je veca nego u ostatku grada - negde oko 10%. Nakon nekoliko dana vozac je uhapsen, a neredi su podrazumevali bacanje kamenja na policiju.

U Sidneju ima vise 'dzepova' sa vecom koncentracijom imigranata iz razlicitih delova sveta - ali na jugu grada gde se ovaj poslednji incident desio ima manje novijih imigranata nego u gradu u proseku, standard je malo veci od proseka. Libanaca ima oko 70000 (grad ima 4 i po miliona), i uglavnom su dobro uklopljeni, mada ih ima vise od svih ostalih Arapa, pa je i sarolikost veca.


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Posted 12 December 2005 - 05:21

Da se nekome ne bi ucinilo da je ovaj dezurni podmetac kukavicijih jaja sa dvocevnim nickom razotkrio u meni nekakvog "antilibanca", evo teksta iz Daily Telegrapha od pre 2 dana (znaci, pre ovih nereda). Ako neko ima problem sa napisanim, neka se obrati Aniti Quigley.
Ja samo prenosim kako je napisano, kad vec moram da se opravdavam zbog dezurnih PC-skojevaca ovog foruma. (f.off za ubuduce)

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Ne boj se, nece 'libanske bande' da dobace do tebe. Da 'podmetnem' jos malo 'kukavicjih jaja' - neke reakcije iz SMH:

Animosity on the beaches of sydney is nothing new and please don't think it's a shire issue only.
I live on the the northern beaches and remember a ranges of battles/fights over the years, including northern beaches vs southerners, clubbies (lifesavers) vs surfies, westies vs surfies, wogs vs surfies, skinheads vs surfies, rockers vs surfies and so on... so nothing really new here.
Don't believe that this is a racism issue only, it's only part of the issue
Another issue is many locals believe the beach is theirs and forget it's public property.

* Posted by: Emma at December 12, 2005 11:10 AM

You people are MISSING the point about the root cause of this - it should not be racism or multiculturalism. The problem should not even revolved around race or ethnicity.

it is actually LAW and ORDER enforcement in australia. we people of asian extraction noticed how lax law and order is in australia. Your education system and criminal justice system encourages such elements to exists in society.

What happen at Cronulla is just a culmination of such SOFTLY SOFTLY APPROACH. That's why you have so many cases of ram-raiding, crowd trouble at RL stadiums, grafitties, burning-of-schools, vandalism -- it is a way of life in australia.

When a drug trafficker(s) is caught - there is so much outpouring of grief and sympathy. . . but parents - do you know where your child was last night? no?

Australia - one way to go. Down.

* Posted by: El Tel at December 12, 2005 11:10 AM

Go home wogs… Are you serious?? These so called aussies need to be reminded where they originally came from.. England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales… Your wogs too! The only difference is you were the first fleet of wogs, lets ask the Aboriginals what they think of the white man??

* Posted by: Jimbo Tucker at December 12, 2005 11:10 AM

Jos toga na http://blogs.smh.com...say/002994.html

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 05:28

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 05:33

Smradishte jedno neopevano, jel' ti rekoh FUCK OFF?

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