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[garfild]

Super tema, letos na odmoru u Grckoj sam obnovio gradivo uz pomoc knjige "Grcka Mitologija" koja kroz lagane price ozivljava duhove sa Olimpa.Ko je u mogucnosti neka poseti Arheoloski Muzej u Atini

Edited by garfild, 19 September 2005 - 20:44.

[T. U. Weenie]

mit o prometeju nosi u sebi jedan paradoks – ako su bogovi svemocni i kada vec imaju sve atribute dobra i morala, zasto su prikovali prometeja za kavkaz i poslali mu jos orla mucitelja?
ako je bog svemocan veciti i besmrtni gospodar sveta, zasto strepi pred snagom smrtnika i kaznjava prometeja?

Ma važi, ako pričamo o hrišćanskom "tumačenju" grčkih mitova. Bogovi kod grka su vrlo antropomorfni u svakom pogledu, i nipošto nisu svemoćni, večiti, sveznajući, i moralni.

mit o prometeju (jedan od mojih najdrazih mitova, prvi put prikazan izmedju 468. i 458. b.c) je u stvari mit o budjenju ljudske svesti, aktuelna i ziva legenda koja je pretrpevsi bezbroj modifikacija pratila kroz vekove razvoj te ljudske svesti, budjenje licnosti.

Zanimljivu verziju mita o Prometeju (u Hindu settingu) imaš kod Rodžera Zelaznog, u "Gospodaru Svetlosti". Njegov titan je kombinacija Bude i Kalkina (desete i poslednje inkarnacije Višnua), ratuje protiv bogova da bi uzdigao čoveka, i biva poražen, sort of.

[Hefestus]

Let me tell u something about Afrodite.

Opsana zenska bre, ali sumnjivog porekla.
Neki kazu da je Zevsova i Dionina creka, to onaj Homer prica okolo.
Aphrodite Pandemos rece Homer. Ali njegov mate Hesiod malo drugacije daje njenu geneologiju pa kaze da je ona cerka Uranosa. To jest nastala je iz Uranosove krvi koja je kapala u more iz nekoliko njegovih phalusa tzv. Afroditi Uranos. Kakva familija.

Pa kava je bre ta Aroditi: Evo kako je video Praxitel dok je Afroditi bila u round crussingu na prelepom Knidosu.


Well, zlobnici kazu da je Paraxitel ipak imao samo lokalnu Irini ko modela, ali wtf.


Prelepa Afrodite was not short of dates. Jesu je uvalili Hefu "radi mira u kuci" (a on ko nije flipnuo) ali se tu javise i ostali likovi, zbog koga je papa Zeus moaro da intervenise nekoliko puta. Recimo kada je Hef prikucao polubrata Aresa. Kazu da je Hef iz ocaja tada skovao "pojas nevinosti". Taj zenski item je bio vrlo popularan na francuskom i engleskom dvoru za vreme krstasa, a ocuvao se i do dana danasnjeg, revidiran u nameri ali arhajican u konstrukcij recimo u RedLight Dist. Amsterdam "The Shaft" 139.95 e (visa, master, diners, american, mc, pinen na chipen)

Afroditi i Ares imase i ceru Penthesileia. Afrodita kaze da to i nije njeno nego Aresovoi i Otrerino iz proslog braka. Well, ko bi to znao Ovidije mozda?
Dete povuce na tatu i postade vodja amazonki. Pade jaka Pantelija od Ahilovog maca, a Ahil ostade da otkida nad mrtvom Pantelijom.
Ono so je Afroditi iz ove veze priznala su dva tatina sini Teror (Deimos) i Strah ( Phobos, i mamina cera Harmonia. Ali ni tu nisu cista posla jer je big bos Zeus nesto tu muvao, a Afrodita mozda zmurela kao kod Giorgonea na slici.



E Djoko, Giorgione, steta sto se nisi rodio jedno 500 godina kasnije. Sigurno bi bio editor in chief kod Hugh M. Hefnera.

Bilo bi dobro da je samo to bila avantura. U nekoi vreme se Afrodita spetlja sa onim lajavcem, bogom od "ti rekov mi rece" Hermesom. Misli li mi sta god o Hermesu ali imao je on i drugih darova od brzog trcanja i tracanja. Iz te veze se rodio Hermaphroditus, mamin sin lep "kao slika". Strejt decacic koji je porastao u mladica, nije imao bas neku kucnu kontrolu. Poceo je rano da skita. Negde kod Halikarnasa u zemlji recnih vila Nereida srete prelepu ninfu Salmacis. Ova otkide za lepim Hermafroditom, a on joj nesto spusti tipa: "pali bre". Well, that was big isnogood. Skoci Salmacis iz fontane scepa Hermafrodita i povuce ga sa sobom u vodu. Tu se desilo ono sto se danas na Wall St. zove merging. Spojise se tela u jedno, ali svako zadrza svoju seksualnost. Ne bi to bilo tako lose cak ni u ono vreme da nije svako preneo u novo telo sve najgore osobine ostavljajuci one dobre.

Nije to mnogima smetalo ni onda a ni danas. Ali negde izmedju: tj oko 1600-te Francis Beaumont ispeva ovu kiticu:

.....
So faire she vvas, of such a pleasing grace,
So straight a body, and so sweet a face,
So soft a belly, such a lustie thigh,
So large a forehead, such a cristall eye,
So soft and moyst a hand, so smooth a brest,
So faire a cheeke, so well in all the rest,
......

"so well in all the rest"
ipak je to stvar ukusa, a i orijentaccije zar ne?


E drugari, Afroditi je uspela da se spetlja i sa smrtnikom Anchisem od Dardanusa, Rece: ma prolazno seksualna avantura, pa on je samo covek-smrtnik.
Sta je prolazno bogovima ne znam, ali u toj prolanosti zastita je omanula.
Dobise oni troje dece Lirusa (nema veze sa lirom i musikom) totalno nebitan lik u senci svog brata Aeneasa, vodje Dardanaca u trojanskom ratu - na strani Troje.
Lirus i Aenas su imali i sestru Hippodameia, hipos-konj. Kazu da jos se brod nasukao negde kod danasnjeg Bara, u mavro-vuni .... dali iam nekog znacaja za vas ne znam.

Elem bio je tu i Adonis u kobinacij i ko zna ko jos. Ali umela je ona i sa zenama. Dali da spominjem da je Heleni obecala Parisa. E Parise bas ti je bio izbor, sto ne poslusa Athenu. I pored svoje lepote bila je ljubomorna na Psihu, said story....

Ima li icega dobrog u ovoj lepotici. Ima recimo kada je vajaru Pygmalionu ozivela Galateju i jos .... ima jos 4sure ali je late bre.

Edited by Hefestus, 20 September 2005 - 04:22.

[T. U. Weenie]

Kazu da je Hef iz ocaja tada skovao "pojas nevinosti". Taj zenski item je bio vrlo popularan na francuskom i engleskom dvoru za vreme krstasa, a ocuvao se i do dana danasnjeg, revidiran u nameri ali arhajican u konstrukcij recimo u RedLight Dist. Amsterdam "The Shaft" 139.95 e (visa, master, diners, american, mc, pinen na chipen)

Stvarno!? Nisam imao pojma da je chastity belt iz antike!

Nego, oko Afrodite...

In the temple of Aphrodite
The priestess wears a see-through nightie
She's a mighty righteous sighty
And it's good enough for me

[T. U. Weenie]

A evo i cele pesme (ono malopre je bilo iz glave)

Gimme that Old-Time Religion

And the gods tore into Loki
Saying "Deicide is hokey"
So Thor threw him in the pokey
And that's good enough for me

And though J.C.'s into fish too
He's an avatar of Vishnu
So he is welcome here too
And that's good enough for me

And when old Quetzelcouatl
Found a virgin he could throttle
And put her heart into a bottle
It was good enough for me.

Any time that I start hearin'
"Jesus loves you" I start leerin'
May-be so, but not like Brirn
And he's good enough for me

Azathoth is in his chaos
We know he's a really big boss
Now if only he don't slay us
Then that's good enough for me.

Don't neglect that shrine of Zeus'
Though he's lost his vital juices
Still the old boy has his uses
And he's good enough for me.

Father Odin we will follow
And in fighting we will wallow
'Till we end up in Valhalla
And that's good enough for me.

Good old Thor's the god of thunder
Really helped us get our plunder
Though his head's still truly dunder
He's still good enough for me

Hari Krishna he must laugh on
See me all dressed up in saffron
With my hair that's only half on
and that's good enough for me

I can hear Valkyries a-comin'
In the air their song is thrumming
They forgot the words, they're humming
Yet they're good enough for me

And for those who follow Cthulhu
We have really got a lulu
Drop a bomb on Honolulu
Cause thats good enough for you

I will rise in early morning
When my Lord gives me the warning
That the Solar Age is dawning
And that's good enough for me.

If you think that you'll be sa-ved,
If you think that you'll be sa-ved,
If you follow Mogan David,
You're not good enough for me.

If you're really into dancing
And want to try some trancing
Then the voodoo gods are prancing
And that's good enough for me

If your rising sign is Eris
You'll be taken by the faeries
Meet the Buddha in Benares
Where he'll hit you with a pie.

In the church of Aphrodite
The priestess wears a see through nightie
She's a mighty righteous sightie,
And she's good enough for me

In the names of Thor and Odin
Don't you know there's a war on?
Grab a axe and get your woad on
And it's good enough for me

It could be that you're a Parsi.
It could be that you're a Parsi.
Walk on by her; you'll get in free
And you're good enough for me.

It was good enough for Cupid
And the tricks to which he stooped
'thou his wings are kinda stupid
But he's good enough for me

It was good enough for Dagon
A conservative old pagan
Who still votes for Ronald Reagan
And it's good enough for me.

It was good enough for Isis
Who always came through in a crisis
And she hasn't raised her prices
Well, that's good enough for me

It was good enough for Kali;
Though embracing her is folly,
She'd be quite an armful, golly!
So it's good enough for me.

It was good enough for Loki
Where he goes, it sure get's smokey
He thinks Thor's a little hokey
And he's good enough for me

It was good enough for Odin
Though that croakin' was forebodin'
Till at last the Giants rode in;
Still it's good enough for me!

It was good for old Jehovah
He had a son who was a nova
Hey there, Mithras move on ova'
A new resurrection day

It's the opera written for us.
We will all join in the chorus.
It's the opera about Boris
Which is Godunov for me.

Just like Carlos Casteneda,
Just like Carlos Casteneda,
It'll get you sooner or later
And it's good enough for me.

Let us celebrate Jehovah
Who created us \ab/ \ova/
He'll be on tonight on Nova
'cause he's good enough for me.

Let us dance with Dionysus
And get drunk on wine and spices
The Christians they call them vices
But they're good enough for me

Let us do our thing for Eris
Goddess of the discord there is
Apple's golden, it's not ferrous
And that's good enough for me.

Let us pray like the Egyptians
Build pyramids to put our crypts in
Fill our subways with inscriptions
It's good enough for me

Let us sing for Brooharia
Though the blood's a lot less cleaner
It's not Christian Santaria
So it's good enough for me

Let us sing to Lord Cthulhu
Don't let Lovecraft try to fool you
Or the Elder Gods WILL rule you
And that's good enough for me.

Let us sing to old Discordia
'Cause it's sure she's never bored ya
And if she's good enough for ya
Then she's good enough for me.

Let us watch Ka.ka.pa.ull
Frolic in her swimming pool
Subjecting chaos to her rule
And that's all right with me

Let us worship Aphrodite,
Though we hear she's rather flighty
Still she looks great in a nightie
And that's good enough for me.

Let us worship Aphrodite
She is beautiful, but flighty
She doesn't even wear a nightie
But she's good enough for me

Let us worship Zarathustra
Just the way that we use 'ta
I'm a Zarathustra booster
And he's good enough for me.

Let us worship old Jehovah
All you other gods move ovah
Cause the one God's takin' over
And it's good enough for me

Let's all drink to Dionysus
His wine and women beyond prices
He made a Maenad out of my Sis
And that's good enough for me

Let's all listen up to Jesus
He says rich folks like old Croesus
Will be damned until Hell freezes
And that don't sound good to me.

Let's hear it for Lord Hermes,
With his stick all full of wormies,
He protects us from the germies,
And that's good enough for me.

My favorite choice is Venus,
though I've heard she is quite heinous,
and she bit me on the ....ELBOW,
and she's good enough for me.

My roommate worships Buddha
There is no idol cuter.
Comes in copper, bronze and pewter
And that's good enough for me

No one wrote a verse for Buddha
Though I think they really could'a
And I really think they should'a
'cause he's good enough for me

Of Lord Shardik you must beware;
To please him you must swear;
'Cause enraged he's a real Bear,
And that's good enough for me.

Of the Old Ones, none is vaster
Even Cthulhu's not their master
I refer to the unspeakable -------
And that's good enough for me

Oh, Montezuma used to start out,
By tearing just a part out,
He could really eat your heart out,
But that's good enough for me.

Oh we will sing to dear old Loki,
The Norse God of Fire and Chaos
And that's why this doesn't rhyme - or scan.
And that's the way he'd like it.

Oh, we went to worship Venus,
and, by Zeus, you should have seen us,
'cause the clinic had to screen us,
but she's good enough for me.

Praise to Popacatapetl
Just a tiny cigarette'll
put him in terrific fettle
so he's good enough for me.

There are followers of Conan.
And you'll never hear 'em groaning
Followed Crom up to his throne(in)
And it's good enough for me

There are people into voodoo
Africa has raised a whoodo
Just one little doll will do you
And it's good enough for me.

There are some who practice Shinto
There's no telling what they're into
Though I guess we could begin to
But that's good enough for me

There are those who worship science
And some would send 'em to the Lions
But without 'em we'd have no appliance
So they're good enough for me

There is room enough in Hades
For lots of criminals and shadies
and disreputable ladies
and they're good enough for me

There will be a lot of lovin'
When we're gathered in our coven
Quit your pushin' and your shoven'
So there'll be room enough for me.

There's one thing I do know
Zeus' favorite is Juno
She's the best at, well, you know
And she's good enough for me.

This verse is just for Loki,
he is the god of chaos,
and that's why this verse has no rhyme nor meter,
but he's good enough for me.

Timmy Leary we will sing to
And the things that he was into
(Well, at least it wasn't Shinto)
And that's good enough for me.

To the tune of Handel's "Largo"
We will hymn the gods of cargo
'til they slap on an embargo
And that's good enough for me

Warriors for Allah
Are sure to have a gala
time in old Valhalla
And that's good enough for me

We it's good enough for Hastur
He's a mighty kinky master
When you pray he goes much faster
And that's good enough for me

We will all be saved by Mithras
We will all be saved by Mithras
Slay the bull and play the zithras
On that resurrection day.

We will all bow down to Allah,
For he gave his loyal follow-
Ers the mighty petro-dollah,
And that's good enough for me.

We will all bow down to Enlil
We will all bow down to Enlil
Pass your cup and get a refill
With bold Gilgamesh the brave.

We will all bow to Hephaestus
As a blacksmith he will test us
'Cause his balls are pure asbestos
So he's good enough for me

We will all go to Nirvana
So be sure to mind your manners
Make a left turn at Savannah
And we'll see the Promised Land.

We will all sing Hari Krishna.
We will all sing Hari Krishna.
It's not mentioned in the mishna
But that's good enough for me.

We will all worship Pele
For tomorrow is her heday
Volcanos bring her payday
And that's good enough for me.

We will drive up to Valhalla
Riding Beetles, not Impalas
Singing "Deutschland Uber Alles"
And that's good enough for me

We will even pray to Jesus
From our sins we hope he frees us
Eternal life he guarantees us
And that's good enough for me

We will go down to the temple
Sit on mats woven of hemp(le)
Try to set a good exemple [sic]
And that's good enough for me

We will go to worship Zeus
Though his morals are quite loose
He gave Leda quite a goose
And he's good enough for me.

We will have a mighty orgy,
In the honor of Astarte.
It will be one helluva party,
And it's good enough for me.

We will pray to Father Zeus
In his temple we'll hang loose
Eating roast beef au jus,
And that's good enough for me.

We will read from the Cabala.
Quote the Tree of Life mandala
It won't get you in Valhalla,
Yet it's good enough for me.

We will sacrifice to Yuggoth
Carve the signs of Azathoth
Burn a candle for Yog-Sothoth
And the Goat with a thousand young.

We will sacrifice to Yuggoth
Light a candle for Yog-Sothoth
If we're good we'll send a Shoggoth
And that's good enough for me.

We will all be saved by Mithras
We will all be saved by Mithras
Slay the bull and play the zithras
On that resurrection day.

We will sing of Foul the Render,
Who's got Drool Rockworm on a bender
In his cave in Kiril Threndor--
They're both too much for me.

We will sing of Iluvatur,
Who sent the Valar 'cross the water
To lead Morgoth to the slaughter
And that's just fine with me.

We will sing the Jug of Issek,
And of Fafhrd his chief mystic,
Though to thieving Mouser will stick,
That's still good enough for me.

We will venerate Bubastes.
We will venerate Bubastes.
If you like us then just ask us,
And that's good enough for me.

We will venerate old Bacchus
Drinking Beer and eating Tacos
'till you've tried it please don't knock us
'cause it's good enough for me.

We will worship Sun Myung Moon
Though we know he is a goon
All our money he'll have soon
And that's good enough for me

We will worship like the Druids,
Drinking strange fermented fluids
Running naked through the wo-ods, [ Running naked but for wo-ads ]
And that's good enough for me!

Well, we went to worship Venus
And, by god, you should have seen us
'Cause the clinic had to screen us
But she's good enough for me.

When we worship Bacchus
The ethanol will sock us
We'll all get good and raucous
And that's good enough for me.

Where's the gong gang? I can't find it
I think Northwoods is behind it
For they've always been cymbal minded
Yet they're good enough for me.

You can dance and wave the thyrsos
And sing lots of rowdy verses
Till the neighbors holler curses,
And that's good enough for me.

Edited by The Ugliest Weenie, 21 September 2005 - 10:03.

[Hefestus]

Jel slusao neko Orfovu: Trionfo di Afrodite!

Ide : ta naa na na ....

Probam da se setim nekog uspesnog muzickog dela posvecenog Afroditi.
Well, Trionfo di Afrodite ako nista bar deo poznate triologije "Trionfi" Orfa.

Vecina je slusala Carmina Burana, prvi deo triologije dok je Catulli Carmina (Poems of Catullus lesbo btw.) i Trionfo di Afrodite! manje poznato i manje izvodjeno.

[Thalia]

Ma važi, ako pričamo o hrišćanskom "tumačenju" grčkih mitova. Bogovi kod grka su vrlo antropomorfni u svakom pogledu, i nipošto nisu svemoćni, večiti, sveznajući, i moralni.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Gresis. Jesu vrlo antropomorfni, ali su takodje i svemocni i veciti. Barem neki od njih. Nemoj da se uzdas samo u mitoloske zbirke, treba pogledati i arheoloska otkrica. Ona nude pravi insight u religijske obicaje i shvatanja vise nego sto se moze pretpostaviti.

[T. U. Weenie]

Jesu vrlo antropomorfni, ali su takodje i svemocni i veciti. Barem neki od njih.

Pazi, all I'm saying is, bogovi kod grka nisu ni u kom pogledu nalik "bogovima" kod hrišćana, i zato ih ne treba opisivati sintagmama "svemoćni i imaju sve atribute dobra i morala", ili "veciti i besmrtni gospodar sveta".

Atributi dobra i morala se ne vezuju za većinu grčkih bogova. Oni su poprilično uobraženi, fickle, judgemental, i boli ih generalno dupe za smrtnike... a tek što su zlopamtila, strašno ... "Jesus loves you, but Zeus doesn't give a fuck".

Svemoćni nisu definitivno, čak ni Zevs koji u par prilika mora da pristane na kompromise. Ostali bogovi su čak bili direktno ugroženi od smrtnika par puta.

Besmrtni jesu, ali večiti nisu. Grčka božanstva su vrrrlo smenjiva. Već par generacija se izmenjalo, a Tartar je još poluprazan...

Ona Aleksina pitanja u vezi sa Prometejem proizilaze direktno iz hrišćanskog nadovezivanja na helene, nepravednog i ničim izazvanog. Za sve su krivi glupi neoplatonisti...

[Thalia]

2 The Ugliest Weenie

Pa niko ne osporava da nemaju atribute morala u hriscanskom smislu. Potpuni je nonsense suditi o njihovim vrlinama i manama sa hriscanskog stanovista, naravno. Ali to ne znaci da nemaju moralne vrednosti uopste. Kapiras razliku o kojoj govorim? Moral u anticko-grckom poimanju sveta je bio nesto sasvim deseto u odnosu na nas danasnji.
Svemocni jesu. (Podsecam te da je i svemocni Jahve napravio par deal-ova u Bibliji, pa niko ne osporava njegovu svemocnost.) Evo navescu ti primer Zevsa. Vernici su ga smatrali ne samo vrhovnim bogom, nego i agrarnim, nebeskim i solarnim (dva su razliciti pojmovi), htonskim, kao i bozanstvom plodnosti uopste, zastitnikom od bolesti (a bice da sam sad na brzinu izostavila jos koju funkciju).....
Tolika razlicitost funkcija u invokaciji nekog bozanstva moze biti objasnjena upravo henoizmom.
Ti se drzis samo klasicnih mitoloskih prica, a ja ti pricam o prakticnom tj. realnom poimanju odredjenog bozanstva u ocima njegovih vernika. U TOME je razlika. Popularna verovanja koja su se razvila tokom vremena su bila daleko bogatija u tom smislu od klasicnih uloga koje su pripisivane odredjenim bozanstvima u mitoloskim pricama.

[T. U. Weenie]

Moral u anticko-grckom poimanju sveta je bio nesto sasvim deseto u odnosu na nas danasnji.

Pa to i ja kažem. Zato je besmisleno pričati o tome kako to mogu visokomoralni Olimpovci razapnu jadnog Prometeja.

Svemocni jesu. Evo navescu ti primer Zevsa. Vernici su ga smatrali ne samo vrhovnim bogom, nego i agrarnim, nebeskim i solarnim (dva su razliciti pojmovi), htonskim, kao i bozanstvom plodnosti uopste, zastitnikom od bolesti (a bice da sam sad na brzinu izostavila jos koju funkciju).....

Uh, našla si primer jedinog boga koji je iole svemoćan. Kakve veze ima to koje je sve funkcije imao kod raznoraznih? (A BTW ko je to i kako video nebeskog Zevsa kao htonsko božanstvo? )

Razni bogovi startuju smrtnike, pa bivaju ispaljeni. Neki se i direktno bore sa smrtnicima i beže poraženi (Sad, to što je u Ilijadi svaki junak "božanskoga stasa" je druga stvar). Petty osvetoljubivost i spletkarenje nisu karakterisitka svemoćnih bića. "Svemoćan" je Braman, i Jahve, i Aton. Nisu "svemoćni" ni Apolon ni Krišna ni Isus ni Horus.

Sve ovo zbog konstantacije da navodno svemoćni olimpijci ne bi morali da se boje smrtnika i naklonjenom im titana. Rekao sam samo da je ta konstantacija nepotrebna, jer mit i ne tvrdi da su olimpijci bili dovoljno svemoćni ni dovoljno večni/nesmenjivi da se ne osete ugroženim od Prometeja i njegovih štićenika. Uopšte nisam nameravao da ulazim u raspravu "moj bog je jači od tvog boga", to ostavljam za D&D forume

Ti se drzis samo klasicnih mitoloskih prica, a ja ti pricam o prakticnom tj. realnom poimanju odredjenog bozanstva u ocima njegovih vernika. U TOME je razlika. Popularna verovanja koja su se razvila tokom vremena su bila daleko bogatija u tom smislu od klasicnih uloga koje su pripisivane odredjenim bozanstvima u mitoloskim pricama.

OK, samo što last time I checked, tema je bila mitologija, ne religija. Zato i pričam iz mitološke perspektive. (A takođe i zato što nemam blagog pojma o tome kako su tačno grci gledali na svoje bogove; onako čisto laički sumnjam da je bilo koji arheološki izvor pouzdaniji od mitološkog, ali to je OT)

[Thalia]

Znas sta, stvarno me mrzi da se ovde raspravljam sa tobom.
Misli kako hoces, to je tvoja stvar, a ako te kojim slucajem zanima za sta je sve Zevs smatran, prvo procitaj sva tri izvandredna toma A. B. Cook-a "Zeus, a study in ancient religion", pa se onda javi za dalju diskusiju.
A arheoloski izvori, za tvoju informaciju, su VEOMA dostojni poverenja, za razliku od mitoloskih pricica podloznih promenama by the storyteller.

[T. U. Weenie]

Znas sta, stvarno me mrzi da se ovde raspravljam sa tobom.
Misli kako hoces, to je tvoja stvar

Ditto.

OK, posle ovog nadasve smislenog i korisnog razgovora, smorila me je grčka mitologija malo. Zato, nešto potpuno drugačije.

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The Cthulhu Mythos!




Starring:

- Azatoth, aka Uzburkani Nuklearni Haos.
- Hastur, aka Hasturhasturhastur.
- Nyarlathotep, iliti Puzeći Haos
- Yog-Sothoth, aka Ključ i Kapija.
i naravno...
- Cthulhu, aka Usnuli Bog, aka Cthul-who?



Dakle? Ima li poštovalaca the Great Old Ones u Srbiji, i koliko? Da li se osećate opresovano u opresivnoj pravoslavnoj sredini?

Edited by The Ugliest Weenie, 24 September 2005 - 00:57.