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[Downforce]

Svako fura svoju politiku. Haos.

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Red Bull's Ricciardo not going 'too crazy' about Renault F1 update

Red Bull's Daniel Ricciardo says he is not expecting a drastic improvement from supplier Renault's upgraded Formula 1 engine, which is set to be available in Austin.

Ricciardo and team-mate Daniil Kvyat have taken a series of engine-change penalties this season as Renault has struggled for reliability and performance.

Red Bull and Renault's relationship has broken down over the course of the year, culminating in the pair deciding to end their association at the end of the season.

Ricciardo said Red Bull will take the updated power unit when it is available - but the team should not "get too crazy" about it.

"We'll take what we can get," said the Australian. "It's not going to be 40 horsepower.

"It's better than what we've got now, but I wouldn't get too crazy about it.

"I'll take it, but I don't think it's going to be worth half a second."

Ricciardo and Kvyat will need to take further penalties when Red Bull chooses to fit the upgraded power units.

When asked if he feels the update is worth taking a penalty for, Ricciardo said: "It depends how much it is.

"From what I've heard it's not that much, so it's on the cusp at the moment."

Last week, Renault head of trackside operations Remi Taffin said the French manufacturer is hoping to have completed the upgrade validation in time for the United States GP.

But when Red Bull boss Christian Horner was asked what he knew of the situation regarding the Renault upgrade, he said: "I'm a little bit in the dark as to when that might be.

"It won't be Sochi that's for sure."

http://www.autosport....php/id/121109?

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Horner:

 

Renault 'three years behind'

[4_Webber]

Ma jeste sad, 10 godina. Koliko ne podnosim ovog coveka

[Rad-oh-yeah?]

Realno Reno kasni godinu. Honda kasni tri.

[alberto.ascari]

Horner je kesa.

Znate dobro koliko se lozim na skijanje i koliko je RB uradio u sponzoringu i popularizaciji, dalje kad sám video RBRing samo sto se nisam upisao od srece, da ne pricam o rallyju, extremnim sportovima, pa i fudbalu.

Ali zbog ovog smeca ljudskog su mi se smucili.

[leone]

Dogovorili su, ja bih cak rekao prijateljski, razvod - cemu sluze ova daljnja pljuvanja?

 

Nema tu nicega sportskog, fer i profesionalnog.

 

Uzasni gubitnici, a kad pobjedjuju ja pa ja.

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Mercedes’ engine customers will receive a new power unit for this weekend’s Russian Grand Prix at the Sochi Autodrom according to German media publicationAuto Motor und Sport.

Both Williams drivers, one of the Force Indias ( believed to be Perez) and both Lotus drivers will get a fresh engine for this weekend’s race in Sochi. This will be their fourth and final engine of the season.

They will not get to use the new, improved Mercedes PU which was introduced in Monza until the start of 2016. It is believed that currently, this version of the engine requires a certain type of fuel, Petronas, which only Mercedes currently use.

Sauber will also receive a new Ferrari engine in Sochi. They will get the Canada specification rather than the upgraded one from Monza, which factory team Ferrari use. The Swiss-based team will not be required to use a fifth engine before the end of the season as they plan to rotate their third and fourth engines for various races and practice sessions. They will use their fourth engine in all of the races while the third engine, which debuted in Spa, will be used from Austin, and will be used in all of the remaining practice sessions.

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EXCLUSIVE: Honda misery set to continue into 2016

[DASUBO]

Malo mi je sumnjiv ovaj tekst. Svojim očima sam gledao turbinu koja se vrti 125000 o/min na testnom stolu. Što je najluđe ta turbina je sa dizel motora jednog transportera. Nije čak ni putnički program u pitanju.
Broj obrtaja može da bude sumanuto veliki ako je pritisak ulja kako treba i valja. Drugim rečima, podmaži i ohladi vratilo koje veže pumpno i turbinsko kolo uljem i "turbaljka" mož' da se vrti koliko hoćeš.

Ne, ovde je nešto drugo u pitanju.

[4_Webber]

Naslov je privlacenje klikova. Sam tekst je u redu, ali nema mnogo veze sa naslovom.

[alpiner]

Mark Hughes nikada ne piše gluposti. Jedan od glavnih ljudi na Autosportu, Motorsportu...

[Rad-oh-yeah?]

Malo mi je sumnjiv ovaj tekst. Svojim očima sam gledao turbinu koja se vrti 125000 o/min na testnom stolu. Što je najluđe ta turbina je sa dizel motora jednog transportera. Nije čak ni putnički program u pitanju.
Broj obrtaja može da bude sumanuto veliki ako je pritisak ulja kako treba i valja. Drugim rečima, podmaži i ohladi vratilo koje veže pumpno i turbinsko kolo uljem i "turbaljka" mož' da se vrti koliko hoćeš.

Ne, ovde je nešto drugo u pitanju.

 

Ono sto je ovde problem je tip kompresora koji Hondin turbo koristi da bi bio toliko mali.

 

Normalni turbokompresor je centrifugalnog tipa i izgleda ovako:

 

https://en.wikipedia...ugal_compressor

 

 

(plavo je centrifugalni kompresor)

 

Honda je odlucila da zbog pakovanja koristi takozvani aksijalni kompresor:

 

https://en.wikipedia...xial_compressor

 

 

Usput, umesto da bude konvencionalno spakovan ispred ili iza samog motora, Honda je ovo nagurala u prostor izmedju V od cilindara motora.

 

Uleteli su preambiciozno i suvise revolucionarno i sada je frka.

[DASUBO]

Ništa novo prika. U M177 koji je u AMG GT dve turbine su spakovane u V "osmaka" i rade kao doxa. Nije frka u tipu turbaljke, već je pre problem u kapacitetu.

[Rad-oh-yeah?]

Jebiga a kapacitet je direktno proporcionalan velicini kompresora, a posto on u ovom slucaju mora da bude mali jer veci ne moze da stane tamo, onda se ide na veci broj obrtaja. Sto onda opet donosi novi set problema.

 

Mnogo hteo, mnogo zapoceo, cas umrli Hondu je omeo.