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#121 /13/Ален Шмит/

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Posted 01 October 2017 - 21:55

Pisao sam ranije o novim hladnjacima elemenata PJ, Rajkonenova nesreća je otkrila pakovanje novih delova






Skontajte proreze na hladnjacima u bokovima, eleganciju usisa novog hladnjaka, koja tech pornjava  :wub:  Zato i pratim ovaj sport, mogu satima buljiti u ovakve slike  0:)

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 20:45

Izgleda da je menjač u redu, ali definitivno će se znati tek u petak posle treninga.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 21:47

Hiperanaliza trke!
Official classification
Lap chart
History chart
Lap analysis
Fastest laps
Best sector times
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Posted 03 October 2017 - 08:19

Notebook from Port Dickson
October 3, 2017 by Joe Saward

The Malaysian GP pages in my green notebook begin with: “No Sean, no Ross, no surprise”, which tells me that neither Sean Bratches nor Ross Brawn attended the race and that I was not surprised to see that happening. There is no future for F1 in Malaysia, no matter what the Prime Minister says. The chapter is closed. F1 has already moved on. A lot of people in Formula 1 are a little sad, Malaysians being generally likeable folk, but the truth is that while the government blowhards might blame Formula 1 for asking too much money, the F1 folk at least had the good grace to say nothing. They might have said that Malaysia is no longer the kind of place that F1 wants to be seen, but that would have been a bit rude.

It was not always that way. Back in the day, Malaysia was the regional trendsetter, trying to overcome innate disadvantages, notably it’s small population, thanks to the remarkable vision of Dr Mahathir Mohamad. In comparison to many leaders in the world, Dr M believed that the job of a politician was to do what was best for his country, rather than doing whatever he could to fill his own pockets. The race was his idea because he wanted the world to know that Malaysia was developing from its sleepy past and accelerating towards industrialisation. The country’s money was ploughed into infrastructure, technology and education. It was a smart move because Malaysia has only 36 million people, which is nothing compared to Vietnam’s 100 million, Indonesia’s 260 million or China’s 1.4 billion.

In the notebook there is a scrawl about Vietnam wanting a race in Hanoi. It’s not a new rumour, but it is still out there. The idea is to boost tourism in the city, which currently attracts four million international visitors each year, but is aiming to push that upwards dramatically in the next few years. Is Hanoi the kind of place that F1 wants to be in the future? Why not? There are plenty of Chinese who might like to stop by on a coach tour.

But, when you think about it, having a second race in China makes far more sense. A street race in Macau is so logical that it is almost obvious. And, no, it wouldn’t be on the old Formula 3 circuit, with its silly hairpin. It would need to be on a new circuit, laid out on the fast wide roads between the new casinos, built on vast tracts of land reclaimed from the sea in recent years. Macau is now a bigger gambling centre than even Las Vegas and, in a few weeks, it will be linked to Hong Kong by a series of bridges and tunnels crossing the Pearl River estuary – 18.6 miles above water, 4.3 miles beneath it in tunnels between man-made islands. Soon one will be able to drive it in half an hour.

Well, unless you are a Malaysian, because they drive slowly…

“Malaysians have always had an affinity for motorised activities,” says one of those flimsy promotional magazines that one finds in hotel rooms. “We can’t really pinpoint why, but it could be down to these few reasons. For starters, Malaysia has abundant well-connected roads and highways, some of which takes us past some truly stunning vistas.”

True, I’d agree with the stunning vista thing, but the signage is haphazard and the driving shocking. The second page of Malaysian GP notes consists entirely of instructions as to how to get from the hotel to the circuit. This was required because we kept getting lost on our journeys at strange hours of the night. One night we found ourselves lost in the vast oil palm plantations of the region, running out of fuel, with no idea where we were. No, it wasn’t because we forgot to refuel, but rather because our Proton had the consumption figures of a Ferrari, without even a tiny fraction of the performance.

“It could also be due to the love affair Malaysia has with motorsports,” the article continued. “Boasting a pretty impressive international race calendar, along with a world-class racing circuit, the country is a true motorsport hub”.

Hmmm… Well, ye-e-es, Sepang is a world-class facility. That much is true. There are some international races, and maybe Malaysians do like motorsport. They certainly seem to spend a lot of money on wide wheels and other such demon tweaks for their Protons, but the vast majority of them then seem happy to potter along at 30mph, never looking in their mirrors and never considering checking in the direction of oncoming traffic when pulling out of a side road. One can only guess that this is because they think the other people are going so slowly that it doesn’t matter.

Mixed in with these people are a fraction of lunatics who drive at warp speed, yet show few signs of knowing what they are doing, and hundreds of little pop-pop motorcyclists who wander about on the tarmac, blocking the passage of cars. One doesn’t really want to know the road accident statistics (I must remember to ask Jean Todt)…

When it comes to motorsport, Malaysia seems at best unremarkable, although history was made at Sepang the other day, when one of the Formula 4 races resulted in not a single car getting to the finish line in an eight-lap race. This may have happened before in the history of the sport, but no-one could remember such a story. Two of the F4 races had to be run back-to-back because of delays caused by Grosjean’s Grille and someone forgot to put fuel into the cars between the two races. And so all but one of the cars ground to a halt during the sixth or seventh lap of the eight-lap event, leaving Anglo-Thai Kane Shepherd as the only driver still going, although his car duly ran out of fuel at the second corner on the last lap, leaving the man with the chequered flag to roll it up and wander off for a cup of tea.

Malaysians seem a docile lot and one might put this down to the fact that getting excited in such hot and humid places is probably not good for your health. The government officials who were complaining about F1 being too expensive did, quietly, explain that the reason that the Grand Prix has not been a success is because the locals did not buy tickets. Perhaps this was because the tickets were too expensive. This year they reduced prices by 82 percent and the circuit was nearly full, although clearly the financial situation was much the same. The Grand Prix was always a government project and one wonders why they did not simply write off the losses as an expense for promoting the country. There does seem to be something of a laissez-faire attitude towards public money in these parts given some reports about Prime Minister Najib Razak.

When he was first elected in 2009, Najib set up a sovereign wealth fund called 1Malaysia Development Berhad (1MDB), which was supposed to invest billions of dollars of Malaysian money in international things. This became rather blurry in that “Oops, where did I leave that $11 billion?” sort of way. Eventually the Wall Street Journal picked up the story and claimed (after endless fact-checkers, no doubt) that $700 million had appeared in Najib’s personal bank accounts. The Prime Minister denied any wrongdoing. The US Department of Justice did not believe this and has been trying to seize assets worth $1 billion which it believes were acquired using the missing funds. DoJ legal documents include many references to “Malaysian Official 1”, who was alleged to have received around $681 million. The Prime Minister denied being Malaysian Official 1.

All of this so upset Dr Mahathir that he became a vocal critic of Najib and his government. He quit the party and will stand against the the PM in the next elections in 2018.

Mahathir is 92…

When Najib turned up at Sepang on Sunday and made some unwise remarks about the F1 race being too expensive, some of us had to bite our tongues to stop ourselves asking whether, in his position, he might not have been able to come up with some public money to keep the race going…

Another scribble in the notebook said: “Hatz arrested”, which was a reference to the news from Germany that Wolfgang Hatz had been carted off to prison for his role in VW diesel scandal. This was quite a shock for the car industry. Hatz is a racing man, who I encountered back in the 1980s when I was writing about BMW M3 touring cars. Later he was responsible for the development of the utterly disastrous Porsche V12 engine, used albeit briefly by the Arrows team (known at the time as Footwork) in 1991. Before this appeared everyone wanted to get their hands on the engine because of the earlier success of the Porsche-designed TAG Turbo engines used by McLaren, but the V12 turned out to be a major league lemon and the team rapidly retreated to the safety of Cosworth. Porsche has such a good reputation that such things seem (and seemed) unthinkable, but no doubt there will be people at Porsche who remember that belly-flop when discussions take place (as they are at the moment) about Porsche getting into F1 in 2021. It’s not a dead cert, although in lots of ways it makes sense. Porsche ambassador Mark Webber keeps telling me it will never happen, and one must assume that he is right, despite the fact that a man from Porsche is visiting teams and talking the talk.

On the third page of the notebook after the scribble that reads: “Budkowski – Renault” and further on another that says “Swiss law”. These relate to a nice fellow called Marcin Budkowski, the head of the FIA Formula 1 Technical Department, who resigned a few days ago, apparently bored by the prospect of waiting any longer to take over as Race Director from Charlie Whiting. Some of the F1 teams were upset because it has emerged that Budkowski is only serving three months of gardening leave, and has seen many of their secrets. Sadly, three months leave is all that is possible under Swiss law, so if the FIA wants to be trusted by the teams, they need more people on French contracts. Budkowski is not commenting about his future employment, but he will join Renault shortly and will take up a role which will be, or equivalent to, Chief Operating Officer of the F1 operation. Although he is an aerodynamicist, he has management ambitions and Renault needs someone to get its much-revamped factory operating as it needs to do to make the team competitive in the future. There is also a note that says RCI Bank, with which Renault announced a late-season partnership. This is Renault’s own bank and the announcement suggests to me that the team needs more money to continue its revival and so has borrowed some from within the Renault empire.

Further on in the notebook there is a page of notes under the title of “Matt Roberts”. He is the new head of research at Formula One and had a little press gathering to show some of the work he has been doing since he arrived. This revealed that just under two thirds of sports fans say they are interested in F1 and Roberts thinks Formula One should now try to convert vaguely interested fans into avid followers. There are several hundred million of these, according to his numbers and he believes the way to hook them is to get them to go to a race…

The survey work also suggested that the best known F1 driver is Fernando Alonso, who was recognised by 73 percent of the people surveyed, ahead of Lewis Hamilton 72 percent and Sebastian Vettel 68 percent. When it came to the drivers people like the best, it seems that Vettel scored highest (was it before or after Baku, one might ask). Raikkonen was second, ahead of Alonso and Hamilton.

There was the expected announcement that the Chinese Grand Prix has extended its contract and that, subject to the FIA’s agreement (which will come), the Chinese and Bahrain Grands Prix will switch dates in 2018, so that Bahrain will become the second race of the year, on April 8, followed a week later by the Chinese Grand Prix in Shanghai. The one discordant note was that the new contract is only for three years but this seems to indicate that Formula One is confident that it can make a great deal more money from F1 and so it makes no sense to be locked into long-term deals as the previous management were (trying to lock value into the balance sheets).

We do need to watch out for developments in Spain as it could impact on the Spanish GP, as the current race is held in Catalonia, which wants to break away from the rest of the country. Over two million Catalans, 90 percent of those who voted in the referendum at the weekend, want to leave Spain, and a further 770,000 people were prevented from voting by Spanish police. Around 800 people were injured in clashes and Catalonia’s regional leader, Carles Puigdemont, is now demanding the removal of all Spanish police from his region. Spain says that it has the power to suspend Catalonian autonomy if it declares independence. Things could get very ugly if that happens.

Talking of invasions, further on in the notebook there is a hand-drawn map of numbered boxes. This came from a conversation I was having with Christian Horner about the number of buildings that the Red Bull team now owns in Milton Keynes. If they are not careful, the entire neighbourhood will soon have to be renamed Red Bullville, as all the buildings will be painted in Red Bull’s deep blue.

Further on in the notes, there is a scrawl which says “RB engine supply 2019-2020”. I do not go with the rumours which suggest that Renault will stop supplying Red Bull with engines after 2018 because I believe Renault is contractually-bound to continue, although (strangely) not in a contract with Red Bull. I hear that in the bilateral deal between Renault and Formula One, Bernie Ecclestone insisted on the French firm agreeing to supply his mate Dietrich Mateschitz until the end of 2020. Red Bull might switch to Honda if the Japanese engines are better, but it will be up to Scuderia Toro Rosso to do the donkey work… Thus Red Bull Racing can concentrate on chassis development and let Renault worry about the engines. Whether these engines can be branded as Aston Martin V6s is an interesting question, which I have yet to ask. If they can be called after a watch company like TAG-Heuer, presumably anything is possible.

Toro Rosso gets to do all the dull jobs for Red Bull, training up young drivers and so on. There is a scrawl in the notebook which says that Franz Tost is interested in signing Pascal Wehrlein to replace Daniil Kvyat, but another scribble contradicts this with the words: “Helmut Marko”, which means that Dr Marko would block the idea of signing up a Mercedes reject. That’s a bit silly because Wehrlein is the best driver on the market at the moment (and shouldn’t be) and it’s doubtful that Mercedes will be able to use him next year. If Williams did not have to please its sponsor Martini, he would be the perfect fit at Grove, but it looks like Felipe Massa will stay on. Others in the frame are Paul di Resta and Robert Kubica. The team is planning to test the Polish driver before making a decision, probably not before the end of the year.

The biggest problem at Williams, however, remains the team’s performance and it was interesting to see a figure who never attends races popping up in Malaysia. The team’s head of composite design Brian O’Rourke is one of Williams’s longest serving members, having joined the team from Northrop in 1982. He hadn’t been to a race for 32 years and said he was on holiday, when we had a little chat. Several people did ask me if I knew who the old Williams bloke was, who was so interested in their front wings… Holidays can be funny things.

Sitting in the hotel in Port Dickson, down on the coast, overlooking the Straits of Malacca, the world seems a long way away. As already discussed, nothing happens quickly in Malaysia, except changes in the weather, but is nice to get a day or two off before heading up to Japan…


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Posted 03 October 2017 - 12:31

Vettel avoided investigation over steering wheel because it wasn’t reported
2017 Malaysian Grand Prix
3rd October 2017, 9:34
Keith Collantine

Sebastian Vettel was not investigated for failing to replace his steering wheel following his crash after the end of the Malaysian Grand Prix because it wasn’t reported to the stewards.

The Ferrari driver failed to leave the steering wheel attached to his car after his collision with Lance Stroll on the slow-down lap. Vettel initially replaced the steering wheel then went back to retrieve it before taking a lift back to the pits on Pascal Wehrlein’s Sauber.

This was potentially in contravention of article 22.5 of the sporting regulations which states: “A driver who abandons a car must leave it in neutral or with the clutch disengaged, with the ERS shut down and with the steering wheel in place.”

Although the stewards did investigate the collision between Vettel and Stroll, and cleared both drivers, they did not examine why Vettel failed to reattach his steering wheel.

“We didn’t look at that,” FIA steward Garry Connelly told the BBC. “It wasn’t reported to us so we haven’t looked at it.”

The stewards receive reports of potential incidents from the race director, Charlie Whiting, who in turn can receive complaints from competitors.

This is not the first time a potential infraction has been overlooked because it wasn’t reported at the time. During the Chinese Grand Prix weekend Daniel Ricciardo and Sergio Perez were given penalties for failing to show up in time for the pre-race performance of the national anthem, but Esteban Ocon’s late arrival was not noticed.

The last driver to be penalised for failing to replace the steering wheel on a car was Pastor Maldonado during the 2014 Canadian Grand Prix weekend. He was given a reprimand.

Vettel currently has five penalty points on his licence. He reached a peak of nine points following the Azerbaijan Grand Prix but has deducted four since then as his penalties from last year’s British and Malaysian Grands Prix have expired.


Nesto mu se puno gleda kroz prste u zadnje vreme...

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 13:06

Ne razumem zasto je to uopste uradio

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 13:25

Ne razumem zasto je to uopste uradio


Možda ima nešto u ovome ▼



Setimo se samo navijača s VN Australije..

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 14:20

Dobro, onda ne treba niko vise da ostavlja volan u bolidu, jer moze bilo kome da bude ukraden.


Mislim, pravila ili postoje ili ne postoje, a ako postoje valjda su tu zato da ih svi postuju. Ako vaze samo za nekog a za nekog ne, onda to nisu pravila nego dvostruki arsini.

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 15:14

Has tuzi Sepang zbog Grozanovog udesa:

The Haas Formula 1 team is in talks with Malaysian Grand Prix officials regarding compensation for damage incurred when Romain Grosjean hit a loose drain cover.

Grosjean spun at 170mph and had a 17G impact with the barriers in Friday practice after his right rear tyre was destroyed when he ran over a drain cover that had been dislodged by Valtteri Bottas's Mercedes at Turn 13.

Grosjean, who walked away uninjured, called for action to make sure incidents like that do not happen again while Haas team principal Gunther Steiner said it was "unacceptable" and "not up to the standards" required for F1 tracks.

The FIA believes a welding failure led to the drain becoming dislodged, with circuit engineers forced to look at every drain that did not have bolts in and strengthen them ahead of final practice.

Steiner met with Sepang International Circuit chief executive Dato' Razlan Razali on Sunday morning ahead of the race to discuss the incident and request compensation for the damage, which was significant.

The floor and front wing, which was brand new, were damaged beyond repair, with the total damage estimated at around £500,000.

Speaking about the incident, Steiner said: "It was completely out of our hands.

"I cannot say - 'oh, OK, we now let, let's say, three quarters of a million [dollars] go because somebody forgot to weld something in, it's all good'.

"We pay to come here, we pay a fee to come here, everybody has to pay.

"We discussed it and they were very professional about it.

"They have insurance, let's see what we can do."

Circuit officials are discussing the situation internally and further talks with Haas are expected to take place this week, ahead of the Japanese GP.

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 15:52

Koje su ovo neistine jbt  :ajme:  , Fetel kamikaza koja kupi nedužne vozače. Pa to ni jadni Katajama nije radio.

Vettel ran out of fuel – made crash deliberately to keep his 4th?

It was a bizarre conclusion to the Malaysian Grand Prix as Sebastian Vettel and Lance Stroll crashed after the chequered flag.

Germany’s Auto-motor-und-sport and few other sources reported that, Vettel almost running out of fuel at the end before he got involved in a bizarre post-chequered flag crash. Even as he lost almost 7-8 seconds on the last couple of lap which seems strange.


Also, in the post-race interviews, Toto suggested that Sebastian had to back off due to a need to save fuel rather than tyres.

However, Vettel said his clash with Lance Stroll after the finish of Formula 1’s Malaysian Grand Prix was “completely unnecessary”.

Four-time world champion had to get a lift back to the pits from the Sauber of Pascal Wehrlein after his left-rear corner suffered severe damage when he tried to go around the outside of Stroll’s Williams at Turn 5, as the rookie moved off the racing line to pick up rubber on his tyres during the slow-down lap.

Indeed, it is believed that Ferrari immediately asked the FIA for special dispensation due to the bizarre nature of the post-race crash with Stroll.

It is also believed that the FIA said no dispensation would be granted in the event Vettel’s gearbox needs to be changed.

The Italian outfit has sent Vettel’s gearbox back to Maranello for an inspection to find out whether it can be saved.

“We’ll check [the gearbox] but yeah, for sure that could be another bad surprise this weekend,” said Vettel.

Other vital thing – before climbing onto the side of Wehrlein’s car, Vettel removed his steering wheel and took it with him.

That violated article 22.5 of the sporting regulations, which says: “A driver who abandons a car must leave it in neutral or with the clutch disengaged, with the ERS shut down and with the steering wheel in place.”

No action has been taken against Vettel over the matter.

Motorsports trusted media – Autosport asked, why he took the wheel with him, Vettel replied: “It was a sort of reflex.

“I saw Pascal was stopped and I couldn’t get the steering wheel back on because the steering column was completely turned.

“Obviously the car was damaged. I put it in the seat, and it was reflex – sometimes they open the track to spectators, so I thought that’s the only loose bit.

“Because I couldn’t put it on I thought I might as well take it with me just to make sure. You don’t want to lose a steering wheel. Was it necessary? Probably not.”

F1 Sporting Regulations – 30.5 – about fuel No car is permitted to consume more than 105kg of fuel, from the time at which the signal to start the race is given to the time each car crosses the Line after the end-of-race signal has been given.

Other than in cases of force majeure (accepted as such by the stewards of the meeting), any driver exceeding this limit will be excluded from the race results.

Under F1 regulations all drivers must bring their cars home to the pits to provide a one-liter fuel sample to FIA for further examinations.


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Posted 05 October 2017 - 15:33


Lance Stroll’s view of his collision with Sebastian Vettel has been shown for the first time in a new onboard video from the Williams driver’s car.

The pair collided at turn five on the slow down lap after the end of the Malaysian Grand Prix. Vettel blamed Stroll for the collision but the Malaysian Grand Prix stewards cleared both drivers following their investigation.

The footage shows Stroll turning left around the corner and the pair making contact after Vettel appears on his right.

Immediately after the crash Vettel told his team: “Stroll is not looking where he’s going. He completely shunted into my car.” Stroll reported Vettel “just ran right into the side of me” on his radio.

The video was not available to the Malaysian Grand Prix stewards at the time of their investigation according to Formula One broadcaster Sky, who obtained the footage.

The collision left Vettel’s Ferrari with left-rear damage which prompted concerns he might require a gearbox change and receive a five-place grid penalty. However Ferrari have confirmed the gearbox can still be used.

Stroll’s view of crash with Vettel

Stroll turns into turn five on the slowing-down lap.

As Vettel appears alongside Stroll the Williams driver appears to be the same distance from the inside of the corner as before.

The pair make contact. At this point Stroll’s steering wheel is turned slightly to the right which may have been caused by the impact with Vettel turning the rack.

The impact tore Vettel’s left-rear wheel off his Ferrari.




Tipicno Fetelovski.

Edited by Rad-oh-yeah?, 05 October 2017 - 15:41.

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 16:20

Gledaj ivičnjak levo, videćeš kako se Stroll udaljava od njega. ;)

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 16:32

Dobro, i? Trka je zavrsena, niko vise ne vozi idealnom putanjom, nema razloga za preticanjima, agresivnim manevrima, isecanjima. Strol je bio optuzen da je namotao udesno na Fetela, sto se iz ovoga vidi da nije tacno - Fetel je namotao ulevo na njega. Isto kao u Singapuru, i jos mnogo puta tokom njegove F1 karijere, ono sto se nalazi iza linije kokpita za Fetela jednostavno ne postoji.

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 16:51

Ovaj incident je mač s dve oštrice, Strol nije gledao retrovizore a Fetel je izveo kamikazni potez kojem bi Salazar pozavideo. Trkački incident trep.gif

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 19:58

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