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#61 /13/Ален Шмит/

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Posted 02 September 2018 - 17:56

Roborejs ipak neće biti u potpunosti autonomno takmičenje, trke ćese najverovatnije sastojati iz dva stinta u kojem će vozač prvi voziti DevBot a dok će trku završiti AI nakon pit stopa te naučenog algoritma vožnje dok ga je vozač vozio!

 

 

Not-so robo: human drivers to compete in Roborace series after all
Alex Inwood & Cameron...
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IN a shock move, Roborace CEO Lucas di Grassi has confirmed human drivers will compete in the series, which was originally conceived as the world’s first motorsport category to involve purely-autonomous race cars.

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Speaking to media at the Formula E Berlin ePrix, where he competed as an Audi Sport factory racing driver, di Grassi confirmed that the Roborace formula will be tweaked to involve human drivers.

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Roborace was originally designed as a category where autonomous race cars compete against each other without human input, but di Grassi says for the series to remain relevant – and interesting enough for spectators - human drivers will be involved in the competition, at least partially.

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When asked by Wheels how he envisages Roborace and traditional motorsport intersecting, di Grassi said human racing drivers will be integral to the futuristic series, which will feature as a support category to Formula E next year.

“Everybody talks about Roborace as if it is a race of autonomous cars. I am changing this to Roborace being a race which combines humans and the skills of the machine,” he explained.

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“Roborace follows the same philosophy of when we created Formula E, which is the market will tend to go more and more toward autonomous cars as the future comes. Some people say five years, some say 10, some say 15 - but there is a normal understanding that this is the way forward.

“So we wanted to create a motorsport series in which these technologies can be tested, and the human can teach these technologies – top quality human drivers – and these technologies can be proved in a controlled environment without anyone being hurt or run over.”

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Further explaining his concept, di Grassi says Roborace events will initially involve four cars – known as Devbots – which will be driven by a human until a mid-race pit stop, when the on-board computers take over.

“Roborace will not only be the car driving itself in autonomous mode,” he said. “It will be the human driving it in the beginning, then the human jumping out in the pit stop, and the car finishing the race by itself.

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“The human will teach the machine during the beginning of the race, and then the machine driving by itself using what it learned from the human before.”

Devbots are stripped down racecars currently used in ‘Human vs Machine’ promo runs where celebrity drivers compete against the self-driving technology built into the vehicle.

Starting life as an LMP3 chassis, Devbots are fully-electric and capable of producing 800kW, with four Formula E motors sending power to both the front and rear axles in a 50:50 split.

Last year Roborace revealed the design for its Robocar, which is slated as the first fully-autonomous race car, and lacks a cockpit for the driver (unlike the Devbots). Di Grassi says the Robocar will still undergo development “in parallel” with the new vision for the series.

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“Originally it was just going to be the Robocars competing against each other, but I think at the human stage where we are it is super important that there is a symbiosis between human and machine that grows together,” he added. “There is a lot the human can teach the machine, and this is very important.”

The first official Roborace event will take place in 2019, involving four Devbots.

 

Masivno razočarenje, očekivao sam "krljanje" Robokara u stilu Olimpijskog skijanja ali ništa od toga. Robokar je iskorišćen kao PR torta za mazanje očiju. U ovakvom izdanju i stanju stvari, tranje s Robokarima nećemo gledati 15 godina minimum.

 

Da kažem nešto potpuno iskreno, FE mi se malo ogadila što se tiče formata takmičenja. Zašto?

 

Zato što hebeno niko tamo nema predstavu kakve prateće trke i serije vikend treba da sadrži. Potpuno logičan pravac iliti FE2 je samo pusti san moje malenkosti što je ne samo glupo od strane FE nego je blago retardirano. Dajte Gen1 bolide mlađoj generaciji vozača pa neka uče za FE, trke bi bile nešto najuzbudljivije na svetu.

 

FE umesto logične FE2 (a imaju Gen1 bolide i prodaju na hebenoj aukciji!) oni hoće nešto nalik GT šampionatu s Jaguarom. Gde tu ima logike? Ajd dobro F1 ima prateću seriju Porše Superkup ali bogte ima i F3 i F2 a FE nema ni FE2.

 

Roborejs je nešto što je sa tehnološke strane logičan izbor za prateću seriju takmičenja ali to može da služi kao dodatak samoj FE i FE2.

 

Hebem ti FE.


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#62 /13/Ален Шмит/

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 18:53

Roborejs predstavio DevBot2 koji će se koristiti sledeće godine u Sezoni Alfa!

 

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#63 /13/Ален Шмит/

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 02:29

DevBot2 i Robokar

 

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#64 Rad-oh-yeah?

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 18:36

Izgleda da se odustalo od koncepta AI "vozaca", bar za sada. Novi predlozeni format je da prvi stint vozi zivi vozac koji bi na pitstopu izasao iz bolida i prepustio ga AI "vozacu". Ovo sve manje lici na pravi AI a vise na mehanicko kopiranje vozacevog inputa, nesto sto je npr. Meklaren imao u F1 jos pocetkom 90-tih godina proslog veka (zbog cega je i zabranjena sva telemetrija od boksova ka bolidima - demonstrirali su na Silverstonu bolid koji "uci" krug od Sene i onda ga sam ponavlja do u beskraj).


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#65 =MetalHead=

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 21:19

Nisam znao za ovu temu... Prelistao sam je od pocetka ali nisam sve citao vec zurio da pogledam sta ce sledece gospodin Шмит uraditi :-)

Koji si ti meni car :-) naklon do poda!

P.S. Dobra propratna serija bi moglo biti trkanje elektricnih kartinga, bez matoraca, samo juniori neki.
P.P.S. Trke AI vozaca u realnom svetu ce sigurno doci. Problem koji ovde vidim je sto je prilicno zatvoren koncept. Napraviti ga da bude open-source, da bolidi budu za pocetak vrlo vrlo jednostavni (ali sexy). I onda ce power of community podizati ovo na sve visi nivo.
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#66 KRAJ RADA FORUMA B92!

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Posted 25 April 2019 - 21:46

Za sve one koji ne znaju, forum b92 prestaje sa radom.

 

https://forum.b92.ne...ada-foruma-b92/

 

To ne znaci i kraj naseg druzenja, posto se samo selimo na novu adresu.

 

https://forum.b92.ne...-za-novi-forum/

 

Forum smo mi i forum ostajemo mi. Za slucaj da nas ugase pre recenog roka, ostavite svoj kontakt (mejl, FB ili telefon) na PM

 

Zoe

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Metalhedu

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i meni

 

da vam javimo novo mesto okupljanja, bez obzira na to da li ste u mogucnosti da pomognete novcano kreiranje novog foruma ili ne. Forum ostaje besplatan i ostaje nas.

Javite se svi.

 

Nadam se da ce svako bar jednom videti ovu poruku, a cilj je postignut ako se ona smuci svima posle 3 dana. :D


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