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#391 Kinik

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 18:11

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Eno drljavi 'tanjug' prenosi ruske 'RIA novosti' (drzavna kej_dzi_bi 'agencija' da je Guaido 'zavrbovan od strane USofA pre 10 godina i da je bio na obuci u sVrBiji'.

 

Eto kako se tretira sVrBija, 'najverniji ruski saveznik, sa zajednickom istorijom / kulturom / religijom'.

 

A u prevodu to znaci samo jedno - 'nesto se mnogo tamo skanjerate, mnogo ste neodlucni - vise se sagnite sVrBska braco da vam ga dobro uteramo!'

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Normalno, ko bi da prica o 'dugarstvu / prijateljstvu' sa ruskim gazdom nego raspevano krme iz_zitoradju!

No, barem ce zaraditi jos jednu plehanu medaljicu.

Zato on i vedzba ruske pesme.

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>> ... Dačić o Čanku i Venecueli: "Ne razume šta su prijatelji"
Beograd -- U trenutku kada ni UN ni EU nisu usvojili jedinstven stav o krizi u Venecueli, najmanje što možemo jeste da ne menjamo svoju poziciju prema toj zemlji.
Izvor: Tanjug, utorak, 12.02.2019.
 
    To je poručio šef srpske diplomatije Ivica Dačić.
    "Negativno sopstveno iskustvo iz bliske prošlosti obavezuje nas da se ne mešamo u unutrašnje stvari suverenih država. To Čanak svakako ne razume, jer je svojevremeno išao u Kataloniju da podrži referendum o otcepljenju od Španije, koja nam je takođe prijatelj", izjavio je Dačić za današnje "Večernje novosti". 
    On je to rekao reagujući na izjavu lidera Lige socijaldemokrata Vojvodine Nenada Čanka, koji je prethodno postavio pitanje Dačiću i premijerki Ani Brnabić da li je njegova izjava da Srbija "ne razmatra promenu pozicije prema Venecueli" njegov lični stav ili stav Vlade Srbije. 
    Evropske zemlje su tražile od predsednika Venecuele Nikolasa Madura da raspiše izbore koji će odlučiti ko će na legitiman i legalan način dobiti priliku da bude predsednik Venecuele, naveo je Čanak i upitao da li je Dačićeva izjava još jedan od slučajeva u kom Srbija podržava stav Rusije, a ne EU. ... <<
 
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#392 Hamilton

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 18:19

Sad procitao komentare na vest (na B92).
Prvi put do sad da sam se sit smejao na komentare bilo koje vesti.

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#393 red pill

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 12:02

Citam ja komentare na vest N1 da se svercuje subvencionisana hrana, lekovi, gorivo iz Venecuele, i nejasno mi je kako prosecan pripadnik ovog naroda moze da sumnja da se to dogadja, i da Maduro i njegovi lopovi ne "ubiru kajmak". Mrzi se sve sto je progresivno i napredno, i na cemu su ljudi par stotina godina radili da izadju iz nevidjenog mracnjastva u demokratiju i slobodu, a nekakvi belosvetski diktatori idolizuju. Ne vidi glupost nacionalizma, koji ljude deli na etnicku i versku pripadnost, a ne po moralnom kvalitetu, na to prosecan Srbin zatvara oci.


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 14:24

... Staljin... Shto je josh zapravo gore... je naredjivao a oni kasapili svoje sugradjane... ukljuchujuci i uze chlanove porodice...

 

Jasno: nivo monstruoznosti je visi ukolko je zrtva neko monstrumu blizak. Manje je cudovisno proglasiti NN Jevrejina za arhi-neprijatelja koga treba likvidirati, pa posteno preci sa reci na nedelo, nego se podmuklo obrusiti na sunarodnika, pripadnika 'iste klase', saradnika ili clana familije -- slucaj Molotovljeve supruge. Uporediti 'uspomene' iz nacistickih logora s onima iz komunistickih. Potonjih sto se tice, i u kategoriji Horor uopste, pobednik je trilogija K. Stajnera. Ako nista drugo, valjalo bi potraziti kako je (kopirano u Ruci iz groba, cini mi se) Danilo Kis opisao Sonju Stajner (sjajna zena). (No, Karl-o je ipak ostao komunista, delom i zato sto mu je zemlja u koju se vratio iz onog nadrealnog pakla izgledala kao Eldorado.)

 

I tako, na molbu golootockih islednika da otvorim dusu, izjavio bih da mi je Hica miliji od Kobe. Te dodao da sto je vise kleveta i lazi, Tica mi je (od obojice) miliji i drazi -- nesto miliji nego sto je Drazi.

 

Spoiler

 

Premda naizgled finiji, komuzam je unesrecio vise ljudi i drugih zivih bica jer je imao vise vremena (impuls sile) i siru ljudsku bazu (Azija). Zapravo bi mogao zahvatiti takoreci citavo covecanstvo, dok s nacizmom to nije moguce. 

 

Pojedine stranice iz 7000 dana govore i o obicno zaboravljanim drugim zivim bicima. Npr. negde na Solovjetskim otocima NKVD-ovci su pobili galebove, posto je jednom oficiru sinulo da ce se logorasi dosetiti da preko ptica emituju poruke u 'slobodni svet'.

 

Tacno: nivo monstruoznosti je visi ako je zrtva mnogo nemocnija od monstruma.


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 15:39

Znamo svi sa kakvim se problemima susreće Venecuela. Ipak, ona, i pored svih problema oko eksplatacije nafte (dosta skupa i komplikovana eksplatacija), proizvodi i prodaje dovoljno nafte da bi mogla da obezbedi makar solidan život svojim građanima. Pitanje je zašto se to, ipak, ne dešava i gde odlazi novac koji se sliva od prodaje nafte i ogromnih kredita koje je Venecuela uzela od Kine i Rusije. Naravno, korupcija i nestručno upravljanje odnose veliki deo prihoda. Opšte je poznato u kom luksuzu žive članovi porodice pokojnog predsednika Čaveza i sadašnjeg para na čelu države Maduro - Flores ali i ostalih visokih državnih funkcionera. Međutim, neću sad pisati mnogo o tome, ovom prilikom ću pisati o trošenju tog novca na razne besmislne kupovine uticaja širom sveta. 

 

Pokojni Čavez je maštao o tome da se njegova tzv. bolivarska revolucija proširi širom američkog kontinenta, pa što da ne i po celom svetu. On je umislio da je novi Če Gevara, čija je misija širenje revolucije i ideologije poznate pod nazivom Socijalizam 21. veka. Prihode od nafte koristio je za finansiranje tog svog poduhvata, a kasnije nije bilo dovoljno pa su morali da se pridodaju prihodi od trgovine drogom ali o tome neki drugi put. Na platnom spisku Venecuele našli su se razni komunistički pokreti, partije širom američkog kontinenta, u glavnom članice tzv. Foro de Sao Paolo, organizacije koja okuplja komunističke pokrete sa američkog kontinenta. Na Čavezovu sreću, a nesreću Venecuele, mnogi od tih organizacija su došle na vlast širom latinske Amerike. Međutim, većina tih država su bile prilično siromašne, a skoro sve su oskudevale u energetskim resursima, pa je valjalo sada pomoći da se bratske partije održe na vlasti što je uključivalo, pored finansiranja tih partija, sada i finansiranje samih država. Tako su Venecuelanci, bez da ih je iko pitao, postali glavni sponzori latinoameričkih "crvenih revolucija" . Pored svega ovoga tu je, naravno, i Kuba. Zemlja koja je totalno propala kolapsom komunizma 90-tih godina, a ona predstavlja simbol latinoameričkog komunizma i tzv. borbe protiv imperijalizma. Kako pustiti da uzori propadaju, moralo se pomoći i njima, tako da Venecuela postaje glavni sponzor Kube, a kako je vreme prolazilo praktično postaje kubanska kolonija. Za razliku od svog prethodnika, Maduro nije imao globalne, a čik ni kontinentalne ambicije. Njega je interesovalo samo da pljačka, krka i ispunjava svoju osnovnu dužnost koju je imao kao kubanski agent, a to je pomoć državi koja ga je na tu funkciju i progurala. 

 

Da bi sve to formalizovali osnovana je jedna od najbesmislenijih organizacija ikada, Petrokaribi. Ova organizacija broji 17 članica iz karipskog regiona, ranije je brojala i više ali su neke države napustile. Saradnja unutar organizacije se svodi na to da Venecuela, državama članicama, prodaje naftu sa popustom koji ide i do 95% uz mogućnost odloženog plaćanja na 25 godina sa grejs periodom od dve godine i kamatom od 1%. Ovako nešto je mogao da napravi samo neko ko je potpuni idiot, a rukovodstvo Venecuele to, očigledno, jeste. Pored ove napravljena je još jedna besmislena organizacija pod imenom Alba,čija je, takođe, osnovna svrha izvlačenje nafte i novca iz Venecuele. 

 

Sve bi to bilo dobro da u nekim latinoameričkim državama komunisti nikako nisu moglu da dođu na vlast na legalan način. Jedna od tih država je i sused Venecuele, zemlja sa kojom deli dugačku granicu, Kolumbija. Naime, Kolumbija je izrazito desno i pro američki orjentisana država u kojoj levica nikad nije mogla da dođe na vlast. U jednom momentu je čak bila i jedina država Južne Amerike u kojoj na vlasti nije bila levica. Nikakvo finansiranje levičarskih političkih partija nije moglo da promeni situaciju u Kolumbiji. U takvoj situaciji Čavez, a još više njego naslednik Maduro, su se okrenuli finansiranju terorizma tako da su se na njihovm platnom spisku našli i organizacija FARC, a posle njegovog rasformiranja tzv. disidenti FARC-a, i zloglasni ELN. Venecuelanske vlasti su jako duboko zagazile u svet finansiranja terorizma tako da su se na njihovom platnom spisku našle i neke druge, manje, levičarske terorističke organizacije na američkom kontinentu. Kako im je američki kontinent bio mali uspostavili su saradnju i sa terorističkim organizacijama sa bliskog istoka, pre svega sa Hezbolahom ali i sa palestinskim terorističkim organizacijama. O ovome opštirnije u nekom od narednih postova. 


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#396 McCarthy

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Posted 15 February 2019 - 15:37

Venezuela: Juan Guaidó denies bid to unseat Maduro has failed

Opposition leader says he believes movement for change in the country is irreversible
Tom Phillips
Fri 15 Feb 2019 09.14 GMT

The Venezuelan opposition leader spearheading efforts to unseat Nicolás Maduro has rejected his rival’s claim that his campaign has failed but admitted the “trickle” of military defections to his side had so far been insufficient to force change.

In an interview with the Guardian, Juan Guaidó – now recognised as Venezuela’s legitimate interim president by more than 50 governments – insisted his country’s march into a new political era was unstoppable and Maduro’s “cruel dictatorship” doomed.

He repudiated Maduro’s claim this week that the opposition’s challenge had collapsed, saying it was a mix of propaganda and delusion.
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“I don’t see how [it is over] ... In fact, I’d venture to say change in Venezuela is irreversible ... Never before in Venezuela have we had such an important opportunity to achieve democratic change,” said the 35-year-old politician who was catapulted to fame after declaring himself Venezuela’s rightful leader on 23 January.

Of Maduro, he said: “I believe he is utterly detached from reality – constantly contradicting himself in his speeches – and this is a worry when we are seeking a peaceful transition.

“This is how dictatorships always behave: they deny reality, they deny crises … What we must do is carry on pushing forwards … carry on piling pressure on a dictatorship which is obviously not going to hand power over [voluntarily].”

The walls of the Caracas headquarters of Guaidó’s centrist party, Voluntad Popular (Popular Will), are decorated with inspirational quotes from pacifists and freedom fighters including Mother Teresa, Martin Luther King Jr and Nelson Mandela.

“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win,” says one, beneath a portrait of Mahatma Gandhi.

But critics have questioned the authoritarian inclinations of several of Guaidó’s key allies, particularly in the US and Brazil.

Brazil’s far-right president, Jair Bolsonaro, has attacked Maduro’s “despicable and murderous” regime but is notorious for celebrating a dictatorship-era torturer and sugarcoating the sins of the generals who ruled Brazil from 1964 until 1985.

The US president, Donald Trump, is also known for his admiration of autocrats, including Vladimir Putin of Russia, China’s Xi Jinping, and North Korea’s Kim Jong-un, a Maduro ally whom Trump recently showered with praise.

Guaidó sidestepped criticism of his champions in Washington and Brasilia, claiming he hoped to build a broad international alliance including left- and rightwingers, such as Ecuador’s Lenín Moreno and Chile’s Sebastián Piñera respectively.

“It’s an unprecedented coalition in support of a just cause,” he said, pointing to recognition from Australia, Germany, Honduras, Israel, Morocco, Paraguay, Poland, Spain and Japan.

“All those who talk about democracy, freedom and the rule of law, of human rights, of the fight against corruption are, I believe, important allies.”

Juan Andrés Mejía, a Voluntad Popular politicians and Guaidó ally, said: “Look, we are thankful to all heads of government that have supported our cause. But the fact that they support us doesn’t mean that we approve of everything they do abroad – or in their own countries.”

But with Maduro showing no sign of budging, some fear Guaidó’s movement could lose momentum. In 2017, mass anti-Maduro protests convinced many that Chávez’s heir was finished, only for him to emerge stronger.

Guaidó insisted the 2019 revolt was different, largely because of its international backing and sky-high discontent among citizens and members of the military suffering the consequences of their country’s economic collapse.

“The fall of the Berlin Wall took a day … It was a barrier and it came down. I believe we are on the verge of something similar,” he said.

Guaidó claimed up to 90% of Venezuela’s population opposed Maduro and 80% of the armed forces wanted political change. But he also hinted at frustration that an anticipated wave of high-level military defections had not yet materialised.

“More than the trickle that we have seen, a declaration en bloc by the armed forces would be ideal,” Guaidó admitted.

With the crisis dragging on longer than many observers had expected, and new US oil sanctions expected to bite soon, some fear food and fuel shortages could contribute to a security breakdown.

At an event in Caracas on Wednesday, the security expert warned: “The security situation in Venezuela could deteriorate tremendously … in the coming days.”

Guaidó admitted there were “X number of scenarios” – including violent ones – for Venezuela’s immediate future, but said he still believed the most likely prospect was a peaceful transition.

“The only ones talking about war are them,” the opposition leader said of Maduro’s government, which has been holding regular displays of military might.

Mayorca said it was impossible to rule out an attack on Guaidó. “Venezuela doesn’t have a tradition of the physical elimination of big political players. But there could always be a first,” he said, evoking the 1948 assassination of the Colombian politician Jorge Eliécer Gaitán that sparked a decade of bloodshed known as La Violencia.

Guaidó, a father-of-one whose calm and eloquent nature remind some of Barack Obama, admitted he was engaged in a high-stakes gamble. “Doing politics in Venezuela is a risk and you can pay with your life,” he said, pointing to more than 400 political prisoners and 1,000 exiles.
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“Or perhaps even death,” Guaidó replied. “As we say in Venezuela: ‘May God have mercy upon us’,” he added, knocking twice on the table in front of him. “Obviously, there is a latent risk.”

With that, Guaidó strode out of the 17th floor office down a corridor whose walls are inscribed with handwritten tributes to his mentor, Leopoldo López, who was jailed in 2014 for his role in the struggle against Maduro.

One message stood out from the calligraphy: “El futuro nos pertenece” it said. “The future belongs to us.”

https://www.theguard...-nicolas-maduro

 


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Posted 18 February 2019 - 01:08

Russia's Gazprombank freezes accounts of Venezuela's PDVSA: source

February 17, 2019 / 12:27 PM / Updated 5 hours ago

 

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian lender Gazprombank has decided to freeze the accounts of Venezuelan state oil company PDVSA and halted transactions with the firm to reduce the risk of the bank falling under U.S. sanctions, a Gazprombank source told Reuters on Sunday.

 

While many foreign firms have been cutting their exposure to PDVSA since the sanctions were imposed, the fact that a lender closely aligned with the Russian state is following suit is significant because the Kremlin has been among Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro’s staunchest supporters.

 

“PDVSA’s accounts are currently frozen. As you’ll understand, operations cannot be carried out,” the source said. Gazprombank did not reply to a Reuters request for a comment.

 

PDVSA brandished the story as “fake news” on its Twitter account in capital red letters, but did not reply to a request for comment.

 

Reuters reported this month that PDVSA was telling customers of its joint ventures to deposit oil sales proceeds in its Gazprombank accounts, according to sources and an internal document, in a move to try to sideline fresh U.S. sanctions on PDVSA.

 

Washington says the sanctions, imposed on Jan. 28, are aimed at blocking Maduro’s access to the country’s oil revenue after opposition leader Juan Guaido proclaimed himself interim president and received widespread Western support.

 

Gazprombank is Russia’s third biggest lender by assets and includes among its shareholders Russian state gas company Gazprom.

 

The bank has held PDVSA accounts for several years. In 2013, PDVSA said it signed a deal with Gazprombank for $1 billion in financing for the Petrozamora company. The source said that Petrozamora accounts were frozen, too.

 

Russian officials have said they stand by Maduro and have condemned opposition actions as a U.S.-inspired ploy to usurp power in Caracas.

 

But Russian firms find themselves in a quandary, caught between a desire to endorse the Kremlin line and back Maduro, and the fear that by doing so they could expose themselves to secondary U.S. sanctions which would harm their businesses.

 

https://www.reuters....e-idUSKCN1Q60BK

 

 

 


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#398 Denis Jasharevic

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Posted 18 February 2019 - 01:32

 

 

Lopovi chuvaju svoje pare od lopova. Mnogo dobro poznaju jedni druge :). Yebesh zajednichki rad na rushenju Amerike ... kada je kinta u pitanju svako gleda svoje doope.


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Posted 22 February 2019 - 12:31

Venezuela crisis: Maduro closing border with Brazil

 

 

"He denies any crisis and calls the aid delivery plans a US-orchestrated show."   :ajme: 

 

I takvog fanatika neko podrzava. 


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Posted 22 February 2019 - 12:36

VENEZUELA CLOSES SEA BORDER WITH DUTCH ISLANDS


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Posted 22 February 2019 - 13:13

Crews To Abandon Two Venezuelan Tankers Stuck On Portugal


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Posted 23 February 2019 - 16:05

Danas je dan D u Venecueli. 

 

Humanitarna pomoc treba da udje u zemlju. Vojska je na granici, demonstranti su sa obe strane granice. Napeto je, vec ima prebega iz redova vojske, ali jos uvek nedovoljno. Jos je rano, bice ovo dug dan za narod Venecuele. 


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Posted 23 February 2019 - 17:44

Dok su sve oči uprte na granicu između Venecuele i Kolumbije, humanitarna pomoć je pre oko pola sata ušla u Venecuelu iz Brazila. Juče su tokom celog dana na granici između Venecuele i Brazila bili neredi i sukobi između vojske i indijanskih plemena, nažalost u tom sukobu bilo je i poginulih i ranjenih. 

 

Na granici sa Kolumbijom je i dalje veoma, veoma napeto. Za to vreme demonstracije se održavaju bukvalno u svim gradovima u državi. 


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Posted 23 February 2019 - 21:11

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Posted 24 February 2019 - 12:04

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Ponekad mi je nejasno - kada ce se vukojebinski sVrBovi vec jednom nauciti elementarnoj politickoj pameti i prestati da drugima turaju psrt u oko, teraju uz ... vodno, umisljajuci da ce drugi da popuste, a njih proglase za pravednike na zemlji?

 

Prenose svakojake rezimske nebuloze iz Venecuele, dok citav svet bruji o konkretnim cinjenicama - ubistva, nasilje, ludilo one pomahnitale podgojene sofercine koji ne zna sta radi.

 

Mislim, secaju li se picopevci 'simbolicnog' ucesca sVrBskih gardijskih pajaca na paradi u Tripoliju, obecanja o izgradnji zgrade 'vojne akademije i vojne bolnice' i tuznih snimaka svetskih agencija kako je zavrsio 'kamilar'? A secaju li se 'junacke borbe irackog naroda' i kako je zavrsio onaj njihov 'veselnik'? 

 

Da ne govorim o sVrBovskim lokalnim bandidosima koji su napunili robijasnice i groblja?

 

Pisu o nekakvoj 'nacionalnoj gardi' Venecuele koja nije ni vojska, ni policija vec soferove 'crvene beretke' - tzv. paramilitares. Zlocinacka, kriminalna lumpenska zgadija, koju ce, kad je sutra budu trebili, zakrzljali umovi raznoraznih belosveCkih dusebriznika oplakivati u stilu - progon mladih ovih_onih?

 

Iz pomoc raznoraznih rezimskih nakaza, politickog i ljudskog taloga i sljama - kao sto su one nakaze - 'portparolka ruskog MIPa' Zaharova i njen sef, konjoliki Sergej Gebelsovic, plasiraju se montirana saopstenja, gde je sve izvrnuto naglavacke. 

 

Tzv. 'humanitarna pomoc' sa oruzjem i municijom koja je uz vojnu silu bila upucivana onoj separatistickoj bagri 'DNR / LNR' se propagirala kao pomoc stanovnistvu, dok se kamioni sa hranom iz konvoja humanitarne pomoci venecuelencima koji gladuju - pale?

 

No, sta ocekivati od civilizacijskog shitholinskog taloga - eto, u Venecueli pale kamione sa hranom, a u ruskoj pomijare unistavaju hranu buldozerima na deponijama. Cak su stigli do spaljivanja crvenog kavijara.

 

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(normalno, to cak nisu smeli ni da daju obdanistima / skolama / bolnicama / penzionerima - jer do njih nista ne bi stiglo - sve bi svoja zgadija pokrala!)

 

I onda raspevano krme iz Zitoradju nesto skici / grokce o principima?

O kojim principima?

 

Sta ce da kazu sutra kad oteraju sofercinu iz Venecuele - opet ce da zavape 'nepravda, nasilje velikih, nepostovanje medjunarodnog prava' i slicne sVrBske maloumnosti?

:wicked:

 

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