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#16 alpiner

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 20:17

Koje su kombinacije, pretpostavljam da je za Monako supersoft/soft? A za Barselonu?

Mislim da će u Monaku ići s.soft i medium.

 

Barselona prošle godine soft-hard. Ne znam šta je ove, verovatno ista priča


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#17 Jurgen

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 23:55

Ima smisla u Monaku je ionako svejedno svaka guma moze da izdrzi pola trke.


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#18 alpiner

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 22:26

Pirelli menja samo hard gume koje će ličiti na prošlogodišnje. Znači nešto tvrđe.

 

Evo šta se vozi na sledeće tri trke:

 

Barselona: medium-hard

 

Monako: s.soft-soft

 

Montreal: s.soft-medium

 

 

 

 

Operating temperatures of the Pirelli line-up.

 

Super Soft (85°-110°)
Soft (105°-125°)
Medium (90°-115°)
Hard (110°-135°C)


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#19 romantik

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 05:39

Pirelli menja samo hard gume koje će ličiti na prošlogodišnje. Znači nešto tvrđe.

 

Evo šta se vozi na sledeće tri trke:

 

Barselona: medium-hard

 

Monako: s.soft-soft

 

Montreal: s.soft-medium

 

 

 

Jedina zanimljiva kombinacij je u Montrealu, tamo su se raspadale i mnogo tvrdje, bas me zanima koliko ce SS da izdrzi, 2-3 kruga?


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#20 alpiner

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 06:49

Valjda im je logika to što nema brzih krivina i temperature su nešto niže pa će ss izdržati par krugova više.

 

Za Monako sam pretpostavio da će ići na medium obzirom da su gume mekše ove godine i da su blizu nivoa soft od prošle godine.

 

Dobro je što su u Barselonu ubacili medium, soft bi se potrošio u krivini 3 za par krugov na levom točku zbog velikih opterećenja.


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#21 Jurgen

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 18:24

Jedina zanimljiva kombinacij je u Montrealu, tamo su se raspadale i mnogo tvrdje, bas me zanima koliko ce SS da izdrzi, 2-3 kruga?

 

U Montrealu su prosle godine jedanput u boks isli Rai i Perez soft/s.soft i Gro soft/supersoft. Tako da mislim da ove godine nece biti problema.


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#22 DASUBO

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 10:30

Koliko god ja varničio zbog ovih pneumatika za koje i dalje mislim da su mnogo gori nego prošlogodišnji. momci iz Lotusa su u pravu. Kako je moguće da su oni i ferari pročitali te gume, a RB i pogotovu one moje nesreće izgiboše?

 

Lotus thinks it would be unfair if Pirelli tweaks 2013 F1 tyres

   
 
 
Lotus thinks it would be unfair if Pirelli makes changes to the tyres later this season just because some teams are struggling to make the rubber last.
 

After a number of outfits were forced to make four-stops during the Spanish Grand Prix due to the high degradation, Pirelli has conceded that it may have to tweak its tyres to limit a repeat in the future.

Such changes could hamper the Lotus outfit, which appears perfectly suited to the high degrading rubber with its E21.

Kimi Raikkonen was able to execute a three-stop strategy at the Circuit de Catalunya to finish second and move to within four points of the lead of the world championship.

 

Well aware that there is a push from some quarters for Pirelli to make changes, Lotus team principal Eric Boullier has admitted tweaks could be a negative for the Enstone-based squad.

 

"I think it is not in some ways fair, but we have to deal with it like we always did," he said. "Everyone has the same tyres."

Boullier reckons that complaints about the tyres are being focused in the wrong area, and he feels that rival teams have simply not dealt with the situation very well.

 

"People need to get the right question," he said. "The question is not the tyres: it is because we did something that allowed our car to [look after the tyres].

 

"It is the same for everybody. There was some slight change for here [to the hard compound] which was to please the most complaining team.

"But I don't think Pirelli is going to change anything. They were asked to build tyres lasting 20 laps and they did it. So that is it."


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#23 4_Webber

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 10:38

Matesic se pobunio. Kaze Formula 1 vise nije trkanje. Sastancio sa Bernijem 45 minuta. Marko se kao plasi i za bezbednost vozaca. Ne umeju da gube jednostavno.


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#24 staneC

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 11:39

Matesic se pobunio. Kaze Formula 1 vise nije trkanje. Sastancio sa Bernijem 45 minuta. Marko se kao plasi i za bezbednost vozaca. Ne umeju da gube jednostavno.

 

Stvarno? Navijač Ferarija se žali, jer druge ekipe žele promeniti nešto u F1, jer bi to tim drugima odgovaralo. 

Pa to "prilagođavanje" pravila Ferrari prakticira od uvek. 


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#25 alpiner

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 11:40

Ja se slažem sa Radojem da ni era Bridgestonea nije bila preterano interesantna. Tačno, vozilo se brže, ali sačuvati gumu je umetnost što su Kimi, a pogotovo Alonso juče pokazali. 

 

Gume sledeće godine moraju biti dosta drugačije obzirom da će motori imati veća ubrzanja.


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#26 DASUBO

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 11:46

Prika mi čita misli. Pneumatici će morati da budu mnogo drugačije jer turbo motori imaju obrtni moment koji je mnogo veći na nižim obrtajima od atmosferskih. Pri izlasku iz lakat krivina na tilkedromima ove gume bi se bukvalno raspadale ako ne bi bila ugrađena neka kontrola proklizavanja ili diferencijal ne bi bio "šperovan" maximalno.

 

Nema teorije da će sledeće godine biti ovakvi pneumatici.


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#27 alberto.ascari

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 11:46

Tyre allocations for 2013

Australia – super-soft and medium
Malaysia – medium and hard
China – soft and medium
Bahrain – medium and hard
Spain – medium and hard
Monaco – super-soft and soft
Canada – super-soft and medium

 

 

 

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#28 staneC

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 12:07

Nije problem u tome, da se gume troše i menjaju svoje karakteristike tokom utrke.

Problem je u tome, kako se troše i kako menjau karakteristike.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...rmula1/22403794

 

... It was a race that was all about fuel management and tyre wear - don't let anyone tell you that the current era is the first in which drivers have had to take care of their cars during a grand prix! ... 


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#29 staneC

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 12:20

To, kako se troše gume ove godine, nema smisla. Tyre wear je toliki, da tyre management počinje nakon prvog kruga. Mercedes ima opako brz bolid, a jedino mogu da ga iznamljuju za košenje trave. A i tamo bi proklizao na okretanju. RedBull bolid voze kao po jajima. Weber ga i ne vozi. Em ti utrku F1, u kojoj barem 20% utrke bold ne smeš terati do daske i da nakon toga možeš voziti normalno. 


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#30 DASUBO

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 13:07

Perez juče:

 

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