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#1 st.maurice

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 18:18

Kako hriscani, jevreji i muslimani veruju da ce jednog dana bukvalno ustati iz grobova (Jovan 11:24; Jezikilj 37; Sura 75;), tako sto ce im natprirodne sile oziveti kosti i obloziti ih mesom, to prirodno stvara neke krajnje banalne i prakticne probleme. Na primer sta raditi ako je telo kremirano i kako ce ono ustati iz ovakve posude da doceka Isusa, Muhameda i Mesiju?

“Postoje tačno utvrđena pravila kako i u kojem pravcu treba da bude okrenut pokojnik dok počiva u kući (stanu), u kojem pravcu treba da bude okrenut dok se vozi ili nosi na putu putu prema groblju, u kojem pravcu treba da bude položen u grob... Naime, hrišćani se prilikom sahranjivanja polažu tako da im noge budu okrenute ka istoku, kako bi o Drugom dolasku Hristovom vaskrsli u susret.


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SPC odbija da sluzi opelo kremiranim vernicima i insistira da se „tijelo vrati zemlji od koje je stvoreno” (Prop. 12,7), a ne da se spali:

“To je osnova i temelj naše vjere, za koju sam apostol Pavle kaže: „Ako Hristos ne vaskrse, uzalud je vjera naša!
Crkva ima jasan stav i odluku, koje nije mijenjala, evo, više od stotinu godina: Ne dozvoljava se opelo nad pokojnicima koji žele da im se tijelo spali!” (Ako Hristos ne vaskrse, uzalud je vjera naša)

“Црква познаје и предлаже свим православним хришћанима једини начин распадања мртвог тијела - његово сахрањивање, што је у складу са светим учењем Цркве и вишевјековне црквене традиције.” (Кремација мртвих - изазов за пастирску одговорност)


Ipak, izgleda ne treba pevise brinuti, jer za svako pravilo postoji rupa:

“Sahranjivanjem urne sa pepelom u Beogradu pri Hramu Svetog Save, „genije koji je osvetlio svet“ počivaće mirno sahranjen po pravoslavnim srpskim običajima, a velika nepravda biće otklonjena. ” (Pravoslavlje i srpstvo Nikole Tesle )


Sudeci po opisu prvog biblijskog zombija, oni ce izgledati vrlo slicno holivudskim verzijama, a kako i ne bi kada ustaju iz grobova:

“I iziđe mrtvac obavit platnom po rukama i po nogama, i lice njegovo ubrusom povezano. Isus im reče: Razrešite ga i pustite nek ide.” (Jovan 11:44)


Muslimani Jerusalima su se vec pripremili za dan kada ce ortodoksne Jevereje njihov Mesija povesti sa Maslinove gore kroz zlatnu kapiju, i zato su je na vreme zazidali. :lol:



Kako mogu zivi i neverujuci da se pripreme za taj radostan dan kada ce mrtvi hodati? Pomoc nam moze pruziti obilje obrazovnih filmova kao sto je ovaj:



#2 Eddard

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 20:08

A i Centar za kontrolu bolesti (CDC) (da, CDC!) ima i vodič za slučaj zombi apokalipse:

101 Zombie Apocalypse


Social Media: Preparedness 101: Zombie Apocalypse

The following was originally posted on CDC Public Health Matters Blog on May 16th, 2011 by Ali S. Khan.



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There are all kinds of emergencies out there that we can prepare for. Take a zombie apocalypse for example. That’s right, I said z-o-m-b-i-e a-p-o-c-a-l-y-p-s-e. You may laugh now, but when it happens you’ll be happy you read this, and hey, maybe you’ll even learn a thing or two about how to prepare for a real emergency.



A Brief History of Zombies

We’ve all seen at least one movie about flesh-eating zombies taking over (my personal favorite isResident Evil), but where do zombies come from and why do they love eating brains so much? The word zombie comes from Haitian and New Orleans voodoo origins. Although its meaning has changed slightly over the years, it refers to a human corpse mysteriously reanimated to serve the undead. Through ancient voodoo and folk-lore traditions, shows like the Walking Dead were born.





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A couple dressed as zombies - Danny Zucco and Sandy Olsson from the movie Grease walking in the annual Toronto Zombie Walk.



In movies, shows, and literature, zombies are often depicted as being created by an infectious virus, which is passed on via bites and contact with bodily fluids. Harvard psychiatrist Steven Schoolman wrote a (fictional) medical paper on the zombies presented in Night of the Living Dead and refers to the condition as Ataxic Neurodegenerative Satiety Deficiency Syndrome caused by an infectious agent. The Zombie Survival Guide identifies the cause of zombies as a virus called solanum. Other zombie origins shown in films include radiation from a destroyed NASA Venus probe (as in Night of the Living Dead), as well as mutations of existing conditions such asprions, mad-cow disease, measles and rabies.

The rise of zombies in pop culture has given credence to the idea that a zombie apocalypse could happen. In such a scenario zombies would take over entire countries, roaming city streets eating anything living that got in their way. The proliferation of this idea has led many people to wonder “How do I prepare for a zombie apocalypse?”



Well, we’re here to answer that question for you, and hopefully share a few tips about preparing for real emergencies too!



Better Safe than Sorry





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Some of the supplies for your emergency kit.



So what do you need to do before zombies…or hurricanes or pandemics for example, actually happen? First of all, you should have an emergency kit in your house. This includes things like water, food, and other supplies to get you through the first couple of days before you can locate a zombie-free refugee camp (or in the event of a natural disaster, it will buy you some time until you are able to make your way to an evacuation shelter or utility lines are restored). Below are a few items you should include in your kit, for a full list visit theCDC Emergency page.

  • Water (1 gallon per person per day)
  • Food (stock up on non-perishable items that you eat regularly)
  • Medications (this includes prescription and non-prescription meds)
  • Tools and Supplies (utility knife, duct tape, battery powered radio, etc.)
  • Sanitation and Hygiene (household bleach, soap, towels, etc.)
  • Clothing and Bedding (a change of clothes for each family member and blankets)
  • Important documents (copies of your driver’s license, passport, and birth certificate to name a few)
  • First Aid supplies (although you’re a goner if a zombie bites you, you can use these supplies to treat basic cuts and lacerations that you might get during a tornado orhurricane)

Once you’ve made your emergency kit, you should sit down with your family and come up with anemergency plan. This includes where you would go and who you would call if zombies started appearing outside your door step. You can also implement this plan if there is a flood, earthquake, or other emergency.



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    Family members meeting by their mailbox. You should pick two meeting places, one close to your home and one farther away.


  • Identify the types of emergencies that are possible in your area. Besides a zombie apocalypse, this may include floods, tornadoes, or earthquakes. If you are unsure contact your local Red Cross chapter for more information.
  • Pick a meeting place for your family to regroup in case zombies invade your home…or your town evacuates because of a hurricane. Pick one place right outside your home for sudden emergencies and one place outside of your neighborhood in case you are unable to return home right away.
  • Identify your emergency contacts. Make a list of local contacts like the police, fire department, and your local zombie response team. Also identify an out-of-state contact that you can call during an emergency to let the rest of your family know you are ok.
  • Plan your evacuation route. When zombies are hungry they won’t stop until they get food (i.e., brains), which means you need to get out of town fast! Plan where you would go and multiple routes you would take ahead of time so that the flesh eaters don’t have a chance! This is also helpful when natural disasters strike and you have to take shelter fast.

Never Fear – CDC is Ready





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Get a Kit, Make a Plan, Be Prepared



If zombies did start roaming the streets, CDC would conduct an investigation much like any other disease outbreak. CDC would provide technical assistance to cities, states, or international partners dealing with a zombie infestation. This assistance might include consultation, lab testing and analysis, patient management and care, tracking of contacts, and infection control (including isolation and quarantine). It’s likely that an investigation of this scenario would seek to accomplish several goals: determine the cause of the illness, the source of the infection/virus/toxin, learn how it is transmitted and how readily it is spread, how to break the cycle of transmission and thus prevent further cases, and how patients can best be treated. Not only would scientists be working to identify the cause and cure of the zombie outbreak, but CDC and other federal agencies would send medical teams and first responders to help those in affected areas (I will be volunteering the young nameless disease detectives for the field work).


:lol:

Edited by nvukelic, 21 May 2011 - 20:09.


#3 slow

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 09:30

Priča o vaskrsenju je mnogo složenija od priče o ''zombijima'' i ostalim htonskim silama. Treba se prvo elementarno informisati pa pisati o nečemu.

Edited by slow, 22 May 2011 - 09:34.


#4 st.maurice

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 12:27

"You may laugh now, but when it happens you’ll be happy you read this, and hey, maybe you’ll even learn a thing or two about how to prepare for a real emergency."

:lol:

Priča o vaskrsenju je mnogo složenija od priče o ''zombijima'' i ostalim htonskim silama. Treba se prvo elementarno informisati pa pisati o nečemu.

Ali ce biti ustajanja iz grobova? Mozda da objasnis kako ce izgledati povratak tvog mesije, nevernici ocigledno to ne razumeju.

Usput me zanima, koja ce od tri vojske zombija da odnese pobedu nad druge dve (i nad zivima), pretpostavljam tvoja?

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:17

:lol:


Ali ce biti ustajanja iz grobova? Mozda da objasnis kako ce izgledati povratak tvog mesije, nevernici ocigledno to ne razumeju.


Pa naravno da nevernici ne razumeju, ne bacaju se biseri pred svakoga.






#6 st.maurice

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:17

Pa naravno da nevernici ne razumeju, ne bacaju se biseri pred svakoga.

Cekaj prvo da utvrdimo da li ti kao vernik znas u sta verujes i da nam objasnis.

#7 ravnicar

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 19:45

...oziveti kosti i obloziti ih mesom...


Gde si ovo nasao?

#8 st.maurice

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 20:33

A i Centar za kontrolu bolesti (CDC) (da, CDC!) ima i vodič za slučaj zombi apokalipse:

101 Zombie Apocalypse



:lol:


Tv Pink prati forum B92, bio je veceras prilog sa ovom istom stranicom CDC-a koju si postavio. :D

#9 Eddard

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 21:05

Drago mi je da sam uzor ružičastima :D.

#10 miki2zivot

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 14:46

:lol:


Ali ce biti ustajanja iz grobova? Mozda da objasnis kako ce izgledati povratak tvog mesije, nevernici ocigledno to ne razumeju.

Naravno da će biti ustajanja iz grobova.
Pitanje koje si postavio zahteva opširniji komentar jer je od suštinske, zivotne vašnosti za svakog pjedinca ma kad da je on ziveo na ovoj pobunjenoj planeti.
Treba malo iz perspektive Biblije posmatrati i shvatiti filozofiju i smisao zivota na zemlji i u skladu sa time prilagoditi svoje ponašanje njenim savetima a sve u cilju da jednog dana budemo pobednici u ovoj velikoj, životnoj borbi. Skoro sve crkve se razlikuju o shvatanju i tumačenju ovog problema. Ja pokušavam da se držim Biblije, šti i tebi savetujem, posebno treba proučavati knjigu proroka Danila i Apokalipsu da bi našli ojektiva i nepristrasan odgovor na tvoje pitanje.
Naš, Hrišćanski Mesija pojaviće se onako kako to Otkivenje opisuje. On će doći proslavljen , sa silom i slavom velikom, u pratnji svetih anđela i pretstavnika svih nastanjenih planeta u svemiru. Mi ćemo ga svi prepooznati ma kada da smo ziveli jer izmeću ostaog nosi još uvek ljudsko obličje, na njemu se vidi da je nekada bio čovek. Biće to najveličanstveniji i najslavniji događaj koji će ikad biti viđen u svemiru. Međutim on na zemlju ne dolazi tek tako, turistički.. on dolazi da vaskrsne svoj narod, pravednike svih vekova, i da spase žive pravednike koje su ljudi pod kontrolom sotone već osudili na smrt. Tako će on sakupiti sve pravednike ma gde oni bili, ne bitno da li se nalaze u Jerusalimu u blizini zlatne kapije ili su u Srbiji negde na Pešteru... na primer. Naravno, podrazumeva se da je predhodno na nebu bio sud na kome je odlučeno i proglašeno ko je pragvednik a ko to nije.

Drugu grupu sačinjavau pokvarenjaci svih vrsta, jednom rečju, nepravedni. Oni će vaskrnuti, ili po srpski oživeti, ne prilikom Hristovog drugog dolaska.u slavi već posle hiljadu godina, kada se pravedni zajedno sa Hristom vraćaju na zemllju. Pre nego što Hrist zemlju potpuno preuredi i stvori na njoj idealne uslove za život vasrsnuće nepravednici, ali, naravno ne sami od sebe Ve će ih Hristos vaskrsnuti da prime osudu da vide šta su izgubili a mogli su imati i šta su pravedni, mirni krotki dobii. Nakon što to shvate i slože se da su pravedno osuđeni, da su se svojim životom i svojim delima odrekli života, biće bačeni u vatru da izgore, te će zauvek nestati i neće više biti potencijalna opasnost ljudima oko sebe. Možda će ostati samo njihovo ime u knjizi onih koji su nekada živeli na zemlji ili negde u nebeskom kompjuteru snimak njihovog ponašanja za života kao uspomena i opomena do čega sdve ne dođe kad stvorenja ne slušaju svog tvorca

Edited by miki2zivot, 15 October 2011 - 15:09.


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Posted 15 October 2011 - 15:03

:lol:

Usput me zanima, koja ce od tri vojske zombija da odnese pobedu nad druge dve (i nad zivima), pretpostavljam tvoja?

Iako pitanjenje nije upućeno direktno meni izneću svoje shvatanje
Nisam hvala Bogu imao direktne kontakte ili živa iskustva sa zombijima, ali, koliko ja znam, to je samo još jedna sotonska izmišljoina, nikakve veze sa realnošu nema, nikada mrtvi ne će oživeti sotonskom silom niti biti pod njegovom kontrolom jer on nema sile da ikoga vskrsne. Ta prića je smišljena sa ciljem da sile zla zauzmu što bolju poziciju u umovim a živih ovozemaljskih, kad su sile dobra i zla u pitanju, neopredeljenih, neobaveštenih ljudi. Samim ti jasno je da neće biti sukoba, ni pobednika i gubitnika među zombijiima,

#12 miki2zivot

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 15:25

Gde si ovo nasao?

O vaskrsenju se govori na više mesta u Bibliji Tek dugim proučavanjem njenih stranica stvara se komletna i jasna slika o budućnosti zemlje, ljudi pa i vaskrsenju. Na direktno pitanje evo direktnog odgovora.
Jezekilj 37.3, "I reče mi sine čovečji hoće li oživeti ove kosti? A j rekoh Gospode Gospde, ti znaš 5. Ovako veli Gospod ovim kostima: Gle ja ću metnuti u vas duh i oživećete. 6. stih. "I metnuću na vas žile i obložiču vas mesom, i navući ću na vas kožu, i metnuću u vas duh i oživećete, i poznaćete da sam ja Gospod".

#13 st.maurice

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 18:58

Sva prorocanstva i vizije se ostvaruju! :(

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#14 glava&pismo

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 11:00

Preporucujem "The Zombie Survival Guide" od Max Brooks-a
Tamo je u detaljima opisano sta (ne)ciniti u svim stupnjevima zombie outbreak-a.


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#15 jelisaveta

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 11:30

Uz duzno postovanje i shvatanje poente postavljaca teme, mislim da, otvaranje teme za svaku hriscansku/pravoslavnu nebulozu, ne bi izdrzao nijedan server na svetu.

edit: a ako je tema otvorena u cilju razonode i trollovanja religijskih besmislica, ja se prijavljujem :)

Edited by jelisaveta, 08 February 2012 - 11:33.