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#1 Prishtinasi

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 01:47

Uvek sam bio zainteresovan da saznam cinjenice i istoriju porekla nekih engleskih reci, narocito recenica koje se upotrebljavaju veoma cesto ovde u Engleskoj u svakodnevnom zivotu.
Pocecu sa svojim skromnim doprinosom, ali zamolio bih vas, da ako imate pokoju interesantnu cinjenicu o poreklu neke recenice,postavite u ovoj temi. Ne mora da bude striktno samo za engleski jezik.



There is an old Hotel/Pub in Marble Arch, London which used to have gallows adjacent. Prisoners were taken to the gallows (after a fair trial of course) to be hung. The horse drawn dray, carting the prisoner was accompanied by an armed guard, who would stop the dray outside the pub and ask the prisoner if he would like ''ONE LAST DRINK''. If he said "YES" it was referred to as “ONE FOR THE ROAD” If he declined, that prisoner was “ON THE WAGON”
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They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families used to all pee in a pot & then once a day it was taken & sold to the tannery. If you had to do this to survive you were "Piss Poor". But worse than that were the really poor folk who couldn’t even afford to buy a pot they "Didn’t have a pot to piss in" & were the lowest of the low.

Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May,and they still smelled pretty good by June. However,since they were starting to smell brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor. Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.
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Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the Bath water!"
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Houses had thatched roofs,thick straw piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice,bugs)lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs."
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There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence.
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The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying, "Dirt Poor." The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way. Hence: a thresh hold.
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In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot.They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence the rhyme: ''Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old''.
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Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could, "Bring home the Bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around talking and ''Chew the fat''.
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Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning & death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.
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Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or ''The Upper Crust''.
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Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of ''Holding a Wake''.
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England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people.So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the grave.When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive. So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift.) to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be, ''Saved by the Bell '' or was considered a ''Dead Ringer''

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 05:00

Uvek sam bio zainteresovan da saznam cinjenice i istoriju porekla nekih engleskih reci, narocito recenica koje se upotrebljavaju veoma cesto ovde u Engleskoj u svakodnevnom zivotu.
Pocecu sa svojim skromnim doprinosom, ali zamolio bih vas, da ako imate pokoju interesantnu cinjenicu o poreklu neke recenice,postavite u ovoj temi. Ne mora da bude striktno samo za engleski jezik.



There is an old Hotel/Pub in Marble Arch, London which used to have gallows adjacent. Prisoners were taken to the gallows (after a fair trial of course) to be hung. The horse drawn dray, carting the prisoner was accompanied by an armed guard, who would stop the dray outside the pub and ask the prisoner if he would like ''ONE LAST DRINK''. If he said "YES" it was referred to as “ONE FOR THE ROAD” If he declined, that prisoner was “ON THE WAGON”
____
They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families used to all pee in a pot & then once a day it was taken & sold to the tannery. If you had to do this to survive you were "Piss Poor". But worse than that were the really poor folk who couldn’t even afford to buy a pot they "Didn’t have a pot to piss in" & were the lowest of the low.

Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May,and they still smelled pretty good by June. However,since they were starting to smell brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor. Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.
___________________
Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the Bath water!"
________
Houses had thatched roofs,thick straw piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice,bugs)lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs."
______________________
There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence.
_____
The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying, "Dirt Poor." The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way. Hence: a thresh hold.
____
_

In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot.They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence the rhyme: ''Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old''.
_____
Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could, "Bring home the Bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around talking and ''Chew the fat''.
_____

Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning & death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.
_____

Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or ''The Upper Crust''.
_____
Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of ''Holding a Wake''.
_____
England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people.So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the grave.When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive. So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift.) to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be, ''Saved by the Bell '' or was considered a ''Dead Ringer''

Rule of thumb - u srednjevekovnoj Engleskoj je postojao zakon da se supruga nije mogla tuci sa stapom debljim od palca.

#3 cyberwor/L/d

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 14:55

Zanimljivo je to sto mnogi latinski citati koje mi danas koristimo zapravo nikada izvorno nisu izreceni na latinskom vec na starogrckom.

#4 Prishtinasi

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 23:24

Pa dajte po neki primer.

Ajmo dalje:

In 1887 , when British prime minister Robert Cecil ( known as Lord Salisbury) decided to appoint Arthur Balfour to the prestigious and sensitive post of chief secretary for Ireland. Not lost on the British public was the fact that Lord Salisbury just happened to be better known to Arthur Balfour as Uncle Bob. In the resulting furor over what was seen as an act of blatant nepotism, Bob's your uncle became a popular sarcastic comment applied to any situation where the outcome was pretty ordained by favoritism. As the scandal faded in public memory. the phrase lost its edge and became a synonym for "you're on easy street now."

#5 Prishtinasi

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Posted 02 June 2010 - 11:25

The phrase red-handed meaning "in the act of commiting a crime, exhibiting incontrovertible evidence of guilt". It first appeared in that form in English in the mid-nineteenth century and was common as the adjtective redhand in Scots even earlier, in the fifteenth century. A moment's consideration of the history of the fifteenth century may clue you in to what the "red" really was :blood. A murderer caught red-handed still had the blood of his victim on his hands. We have, since the eighteenth century, used red-handed to describe any criminal caught in the act or bearing irrefutable evidence of guilt.

#6 Prishtinasi

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 19:11

Zahvaljujem se moderaciji na korigiranje naslova teme :ph34r:

" A friend in need is a friend indeed " is a lovely proverb , it rhymes nicely, and unfortunately, no one knows exactly what it means. The proverb itself has been kicking around for a couple of thousand years and crops up in one form or another in nearly every notable quotable's life work somewhere.
There is some evidence that the uncynical interpretation,that a true friend is one who sticksby you in hard times, was the original meaning of the phrase. Some authorities trace the proverb to a Latin saying "Amicus certa in re incerta certinur,"which means " A sure friend is made known when one is in difficulty."
Another bit of uncertainty, however, revolves around wether indeed in the phrase might not actually have originally been in need, meaning that a true friend actually does something ( a deed) to relieve your distress, rather than just keeping you company while you sink.

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Posted 30 September 2010 - 11:20

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