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#31 memento

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 02:23

Moto2 class to open in 2010 with single engine supplier

Saturday, 11 April 2009
FIM accept proposal to run new category with only one engine manufacturer providing motors.
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The eagerly-anticipated Moto2 class will run a ‘One Make Engine Regulation’ upon it’s introduction as a replacement class for 250cc, the FIM announced in the early hours of Sunday morning. The Grand Prix Commission, composed of Messrs. Carmelo Ezpeleta (Dorna, Chairman), Claude Danis (FIM), Hervé Poncharal (IRTA) and Takanao Tsubouchi (MSMA), in the presence of Messrs Ignacio Verneda (FIM Sports Director), Javier Alonso (Dorna) and M. Paul Butler (Secretary of the meeting), unanimously accepted a proposal made to them by the MSMA in a meeting held on April 11 at the Losail International Circuit. The announcement also revealed that the class would be introduced in the 2010 season.

Speaking after the decision was made, Mr. Danis explained the reasoning behind the move to a single engine supplier.

“We had already decided that the chassis should be open to all manufacturers, but we would like to have a control engine in order to reduce costs,” stated the FIM representative. “The decision as to whom will be the sole manufacturer will be made in the next month, but we have already had two parties expressing an interest and we will discuss the situation with them.

Many of the technical regulations for the Moto2 class have yet to be confirmed, although the introduction of the class in 2010 would speed up the process. There are currently no plans, however, for a solitary tyre supplier for the category.

“Right now the tyre situation is that we will have an open field. However, it is something that we will think about and discuss,” concluded Mr. Danis.



Moto2 Confirmed As A Single Class
Submitted by Kropotkin on Sun, 2009-04-12 01:36.


Just a single throwaway line, yet so full of meaning. The FIM today issued a press release with the outcome of deliberations of the Grand Prix Commission:

"For 2010

The commission unanimously accepted the proposition of the MSMA to have a “One Make Engine Regulation” in the Moto2 class. The name of the manufacturer will be announced later."

What this means is that, as expected, the Moto2 class will use a spec engine. And there are a lot of good reasons to do so, not least the history of conflict between Dorna, the Flamminis and the FIM over the definition of a prototype. By requiring a spec engine from a single supplier, any teams being tempted to use an engine out of a road bike, and thereby incurring the wrath of the Flamminis and Infront Motor Sports, the organization which runs World Superbikes, would have to think again.

Of course the ostensible reason - and a very good one - is that by removing the need to compete on the basis of engine development, the costs of running a Moto2 bike will be drastically reduced. This is a perfectly valid line of reasoning, though the fact remains that teams go racing to win, and will spend whatever money they can rustle up to try and do so. Though the bikes may not end up costing as much as the Aprilia RSA 250s they are meant to replace, they are unlikely to be cheap.

The one question left is who will be awarded the engine contract. MotoGPMatters.com has already been contacted by one engine supplier, desperate to submit a tender for the contract, but unable to find the proper channels to approach the FIM through. Knowing the FIM, the process will be open, transparent and honest. But it would help if they published the guidelines for application somewhere publicly.

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 10:53

1. Casey Stoner Ducati 1.55,286
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14. Dani Pedrosa Honda + 2,443s
15. Sete Gibernau Ducati + 2,613s
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!? Bez obzira na sve ovo je ipak trka.

#33 alpiner

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 11:24

Stoner says he could have gone faster
By Jamie O'Leary Saturday, April 11th 2009, 21:20 GMT



Casey Stoner believes he could have gone a lot faster in Qatar Grand Prix qualifying, despite taking a dominant pole position for the first race of the year at the Losail circuit.

The Ducati rider's pole lap of 1m55.286s was enough for him to beat the Yamaha of defending world champion Valentino Rossi by almost half a second.

But the Australian, who set his best time on the softer of the two control Bridgestone tyre compounds on offer, was still adamant that a quicker lap could have come his way, had the rubber been up to it.

"I wasn't really happy with any of the lap times," the 2007 world champion told BBC television. "The first time I went out and did the same lap time twice.

"The tyres are almost like qualifying tyres at the moment on this dusty track, they're only lasting a maximum of two laps. The second lap time I wasn't happy with either and felt I could've gone faster."

Stoner said that Sunday's warm-up would be crucial in honing a good race set-up, due in no small part to the reduction in practice sessions from three to two for this season.

"Like everyone, we're still trying to find the best setting possible for the harder tyres because the track destroys them very quickly," he told Italia1 TV. "We have a reasonably good set-up for the race, but it's not perfect. At least we've got warm-up to work on that."

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 11:26

Lorenzo worried about hard tyre pace
By Michele Lostia and Matt Beer Saturday, April 11th 2009, 21:41 GMT



Jorge Lorenzo is concerned about his pace on the Bridgestones that will be used in tomorrow's Qatar Grand Prix, having only shown speed on the softer rubber in tonight's qualifying session at Losail.

The Spaniard will start from third on the grid, one position behind his Yamaha team-mate Valentino Rossi, but ended the session frustrated.

"I'm a bit sorry because I didn't manage to go quick with the hard tyre, while with the soft one I was faster, which is something I couldn't do during pre-season testing," Lorenzo told Italia1 television.

"So it's a bit weird. Let's hope that tomorrow, with the hard tyre, we can find the pace of the guys ahead."

He pointed out that he has had much less mileage on Bridgestones than his front row partners Casey Stoner and Valentino Rossi. While Stoner has been on Bridgestones since joining Ducati, Rossi switched to the Japanese rubber for 2008 while team-mate Lorenzo remained on Michelins.

"They are going very quick, but they have lots of experience with this tyre, while we've just started now," said Lorenzo.

"But there's no excuse: they are going quick, and we aren't going as quick."

#35 memento

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 15:51

1. Casey Stoner Ducati 1.55,286
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14. Dani Pedrosa Honda + 2,443s
15. Sete Gibernau Ducati + 2,613s
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!? Bez obzira na sve ovo je ipak trka.



Pedrosa je povredjen.
a Sete... nadam se da ce se popraviti. bilo bi tuzno da se vratio samo da bi popunio zadnji deo grida.

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#36 memento

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 22:31

glupa kisa!! :ph34r:
koliko god da mi se svidela nocna varijanta prosle godine, tek sad shvatam kolika je to glupost.


2009 Qatar 125cc Race Result - Four Lap Farce Cut Short By Rain

Pos. No. Rider Manufacturer Time Diff
1 29 Andrea IANNONE APRILIA 8'37.245
2 60 Julian SIMON APRILIA 8'37.425 0.180
3 11 Sandro CORTESE DERBI 8'42.456 5.211
4 44 Pol ESPARGARO DERBI 8'43.014 5.769
5 38 Bradley SMITH APRILIA 8'43.895 6.650
6 94 Jonas FOLGER APRILIA 8'43.946 6.701
7 18 Nicolas TEROL APRILIA 8'44.016 6.771
8 17 Stefan BRADL APRILIA 8'44.837 7.592
9 99 Danny WEBB APRILIA 8'45.414 8.169
10 12 Esteve RABAT APRILIA 8'45.923 8.678
11 77 Dominique AEGERTER DERBI 8'49.477 12.232
12 33 Sergio GADEA APRILIA 8'49.482 12.237
13 45 Scott REDDING APRILIA 8'49.605 12.360
14 24 Simone CORSI APRILIA 8'50.999 13.754
15 14 Johann ZARCO APRILIA 8'51.028 13.783
16 16 Cameron BEAUBIER KTM 8'51.138 13.893
17 7 Efren VAZQUEZ DERBI 8'51.415 14.170
18 6 Joan OLIVE DERBI 8'51.697 14.452
19 8 Lorenzo ZANETTI APRILIA 8'52.555 15.310
20 73 Takaaki NAKAGAMI APRILIA 8'53.660 16.415
21 32 Lorenzo SAVADORI APRILIA 8'55.847 18.602
22 35 Randy KRUMMENACHE APRILIA 8'56.600 19.355
23 53 Jasper IWEMA HONDA 9'05.279 28.034
24 87 Luca MARCONI APRILIA 9'05.359 28.114
25 69 Lukas SEMBERA APRILIA 9'05.444 28.199
26 5 Alexis MASBOU LONCIN 9'05.517 28.272
27 71 Tomoyoshi KOYAMA LONCIN 9'05.789 28.544
28 10 Luca VITALI APRILIA 9'31.172 53.927
Not Classified
93 Marc MARQUEZ KTM 6'32.515 1 lap
88 Michael RANSEDER HAOJUE 6'54.714 1 lap
Not starting
66 Matthew HOYLE HAOJUE




sjajna 250 trka!!!!

250 Race results - Qatar:

1. Barbera (Aprilia)
2. Cluzel (Aprilia) +0.826sec
3. di Meglio (Aprilia) +6.181sec
4. Aoyama (Honda) +6.609sec
5. de Rosa (Honda) +6.656sec
6. Luthi (Aprilia) +6.672sec
7. Bautista (Aprilia) +7.608sec
8. Wilairot (Honda) +8.349sec
9. Locatelli (Gilera) +15.032sec
10. Talmacsi (Aprilia) +20.348sec

nema jos svih rezultata da bih mogla da ih iskopiram.


nadam se da ce biti sutra moto gp!

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 22:52

Full result of the 250cc race at the 2009 Qatar Grand Prix:
Pos. No. Rider Manufacturer Time Diff
1 40 Hector BARBERA APRILIA 26'50.940
2 16 Jules CLUZEL APRILIA 26'51.766 0.826 :ph34r:
3 63 Mike DIMEGLIO APRILIA 26'57.121 6.181 :)
4 4 Hiroshi AOYAMA HONDA 26'57.549 6.609 :D
5 35 Raffaele DEROSA HONDA 26'57.596 6.656
6 12 Thomas LUTHI APRILIA 26'57.612 6.672
7 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA APRILIA 26'58.548 7.608 :D
8 14 Ratthapark WILAIROT HONDA 26'59.289 8.349 :D
9 15 Roberto LOCATELLI GILERA 27'05.972 15.032
10 28 Gabor TALMACSI APRILIA 27'11.288 20.348
11 55 Hector FAUBEL HONDA 27'11.405 20.465
12 48 Shoya TOMIZAWA HONDA 27'19.342 28.402
13 52 Lukas PESEK APRILIA 27'19.846 28.906
14 6 Alex DEBON APRILIA 27'24.719 33.779
15 25 Alex BALDOLINI APRILIA 27'27.928 36.988
16 8 Bastien CHESAUX HONDA 27'52.670 1'01.730
17 10 Imre TOTH APRILIA 27'54.452 1'03.512
18 56 Vladimir LEONOV APRILIA 28'23.325 1'32.385
19 77 Aitor RODRIGUEZ APRILIA 28'29.692 1'38.752
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17 Karel ABRAHAM APRILIA 16'45.822 5 laps
Not finished first lap
7 Axel PONS APRILIA
75 Mattia PASINI APRILIA

#38 memento

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 00:10

Qatar MotoGP to be re-run on Monday
The season-opening Qatar MotoGP, cancelled due to rain on Sunday night, will now take place at 9pm on Monday night.

Sunday night's racing schedule began ominously when a storm halted the 125cc race after just four full laps, while the following 250cc race was reduced to 13 laps after a delayed start to allow the track to dry.

Continuous heavy rain then returned just before the scheduled 11pm MotoGP race start, prompting the event to be cancelled - but with 'postponement to Monday under consideration'.

Racing at Qatar does not take place in the rain due to glare from the floodlights causing visibly problems for the riders.

A meeting between the teams and Race Direction was held at midnight to decide if and when a re-run would take place. After a long wait, it was finally announced that the race will be held on Monday at 9pm, with a warm-up session taking place at 6.30pm.

It is assumed that Monday's weather forecast was checked in detail before selecting the new start time. Rain also fell during last month's Qatar pre-season test and again on Saturday night, but had previously never interrupted a grand prix track session.

The re-run means flights, hotels, freight - and TV coverage - will now need to be hastily rearranged.

Aside from simply scrapping the race (which may have had contractual implications) and reducing the 2009 world championship to 16 rounds, another option was to return in September, in place of the already cancelled Hungarian round, but that would have been even more costly than a Monday re-run.

Holding the race during the daytime on Monday would have reduced the amount of rescheduling required, but create tyre and set-up problems due to the much hotter temperatures.

The first (and so far only) MotoGP night race was held at Qatar one year ago. Singapore then held the first F1 night race later in the year.

Sunday's experience means it is doubtful that any other circuits will join Qatar in hosting a MotoGP night race, unless the problems associated with wet weather riding at night can be solved.

Racing at night in Qatar requires enough light to cover an area equivalent to 70 football pitches.

The last grand prix to be cancelled was in 1980 when the Austrian Grand Prix at the Salzburgring did not start because of heavy snow.

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Monday, 13 April 2009
MotoGP WUP 17:00 - 17:20
MotoGP RAC 20:00

po nasem


Erceg je rekao da ce prenositi ako se bude vozilo sutra.

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 23:58

2009 Qatar MotoGP Race Result

Pos. No. Rider Manufacturer Time Diff
1 27 Casey STONER DUCATI 42'53.984
2 46 Valentino ROSSI YAMAHA 43'01.755 7.771
3 99 Jorge LORENZO YAMAHA 43'10.228 16.244
4 5 Colin EDWARDS YAMAHA 43'18.394 24.410
5 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO HONDA 43'21.247 27.263
6 15 Alex DE ANGELIS HONDA 43'23.867 29.883
7 7 Chris VERMEULEN SUZUKI 43'27.611 33.627
8 36 Mika KALLIO DUCATI 43'28.739 34.755
9 24 Toni ELIAS HONDA 43'33.465 39.481
10 14 Randy DE PUNIET HONDA 43'36.268 42.284
11 3 Dani PEDROSA HONDA 43'42.510 48.526
12 69 Nicky HAYDEN DUCATI 43'42.867 48.883
13 59 Sete GIBERNAU DUCATI 43'46.199 52.215
14 33 Marco MELANDRI KAWASAKI 43'50.363 56.379
15 72 Yuki TAKAHASHI HONDA 43'54.270 1'00.286
16 52 James TOSELAND YAMAHA 44'08.962 1'14.978
17 88 Niccolo CANEPA DUCATI 44'09.012 1'15.028
Not Classified
65 Loris CAPIROSSI SUZUKI 13'49.501 15 laps


napred ocekivano i vec vidjeno, takoreci dosadno (mada sam jedno vreme mislila da ce Rossi stici Stonera), ali zato dovoljno akcije u sredini, tako da sam zadovoljna. zao mi za capirexa, odlican je bio i mislim da bi ovo mogla biti dobra godina za njega. Odlicni Edwards i Dovizioso! Mika Kallio za prvu trku super!! navijam za njega jos od kad je bio u 125. Melandri, s obzirom na izletanje, jako dobar, cini mi se. takodje i Hayden, ipak se ubio prekjuce. Toseland, Takahashi, Canepa u problemu. a Sete... uf :ph34r:
prvi put da mi bi zao Pedrose. ne sto je povredjen, nego sto je de Angelis resio da se odbije od njega. Pedrosa je besan, de Angelis je pozvan na razgovor, ali nije kaznjen.
sta reci za Stonera... covek je raketa. steta sto ne osecam ama bas nikakvo ushicenje kad on pobedjuje.

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 00:00

2009 MotoGP Championship Standings After Round 1, Qatar


1 STONER Casey AUS 25
2 ROSSI Valentino ITA 20 -5
3 LORENZO Jorge SPA 16 -9
4 EDWARDS Colin USA 13 -12
5 DOVIZIOSO Andrea ITA 11 -14
6 DE ANGELIS Alex RSM 10 -15
7 VERMEULEN Chris AUS 9 -16
8 KALLIO Mika FIN 8 -17
9 ELIAS Toni SPA 7 -18
10 DE PUNIET Randy FRA 6 -19
11 PEDROSA Dani SPA 5 -20
12 HAYDEN Nicky USA 4 -21
13 GIBERNAU Sete SPA 3 -22
14 MELANDRI Marco ITA 2 -23
15 TAKAHASHI Yuki JPN 1 -24

Edited by memento, 14 April 2009 - 00:03.


#41 Uzice

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 11:49

Mislim da su sada prilicno jednaki i da ce biti dobra borba za prvo mesto.

Daj i poredak konstruktora.

#42 memento

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 12:48

izvol'te!

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 13:07

The Ducati Desmosedici's Carbon Fiber Frame

Submitted by Kropotkin on Tue, 2009-04-14 12:12.

Here at MotoGPMatters.com, we are not given to recycling press releases. They are freely available both on the teams websites, and on many other news websites (though some make the effort to turn the press release into a story, and others state baldly that the information is just a press release). But sometimes, we are sent a press release that we are sure our readers would be interested in as well.

One such release landed in our inbox this morning: A background story from Ducati explaining a little bit about the Desmosedici GP9's carbon fiber monocoque chassis, and some of the design decisions which lay behind it. We hope you enjoy it:


THE DESMOSEDICI GP9 MONOCOQUE CARBON FIBRE FRAME

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Ducati Desmosedici GP9 Carbon Fiber Monocoque Chassis

The most significant innovation of the DUCATI DESMOSEDICI GP9 is the monocoque frame in carbon fibre composite.

The technical selection of this type of frame is the next step in the advancement of the bike that has undergone previous major developments in its GP3 and GP7 versions.

The concept of the engine casing has been the guideline of the DESMOSEDICI project. The objective is to create a chassis set-up in which each element carries out a specific function, to obtain the desired rigidity with as little weight as possible, thus attaining maximum efficiency.

The engine, the main frame, the rear sub-frame, the rear suspension system (comprising swing-arm and linkage) and the front suspension system are the main components of the bike.

The basic idea is to abandon the classic concept of the chassis as the element that connects all other elements, in favour of a design in which the engine is the central element to which the main frame, rear sub-frame and rear suspension system are individually connected.

The GP3 was unique in having a rear swing-arm that was attached solely to the engine. In particular both the swing-arm pivot and the suspension linkages were connected directly to the engine without any attachment to the main frame.

The GP7 featured a main frame that was totally detached from the rear sub-frame. Basically the engine was the central element of the bike. The main frame was used as link between the engine and the steering head. The rear sub-frame linked the engine to the seat and to the footpegs and controls. The two frames, main and rear sub-frame, that were still linked to each other on the GP3, were now only attached to the engine on the GP7, meaning that they were smaller and lighter.

On the GP9 the main frame is formed to connect the engine to the steering head. The main frame now also incorporates the air-box in one single construction. This monocoque construction allows the air-box to function efficiently within the main frame.

Choosing to utilise the carbon fibre composite technology to create the frame means that, on the one hand, one can mould the piece into the desired form without incurring enormous equipment costs and, on the other hand, varying levels of rigidity and torsional characteristics can be attained simply by altering the type, the number and the directional orientation of the carbon fibres, using the same equipment.

In testing carried out up until now the GP9 guarantees greater precision and stability in breaking and on entering corners. We maintain, however, that only by using it to race on the various world circuits will we be able to properly evaluate the potential of this technical solution. Employing the said technical solution in competition at the maximum level is the only way to effectively assess it in all its aspects.

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 14:06

Hvala!

A carbon fiber je buducnost. Uskoro izbacujem prvi proizvod na trziste a vec spremam i drugi.

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 14:25

A carbon fiber je buducnost. Uskoro izbacujem prvi proizvod na trziste a vec spremam i drugi.


Napiši nam nešto o tome.

Stoner je zaista dominirao trkom, ali mislim da je pred nama interesantna sezona.
Kalio se odlično snašao i impresivan rezultat...posle Stonera najbrži vozač Dukatija. Mislim i da je Dovizoso vozač na kojeg treba obratiti pažnju...naravno sve zavisi od Honde i koliko brzo će proći tranzicija na Bridgestone pneumatike.

Edited by alpiner, 14 April 2009 - 20:02.