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#16 Issey

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Posted 16 August 2008 - 13:33

Svaka cast odbojkasima na borbenosti. Sumnjao sam u Bojovicev prijem, ali je na svu srecu solidno odradio posao. Nikic je odigrao jednu od boljih partija u poslednje vreme, dok za Nikolu i Miljkovica ne treba trositi reci. Nadam se da mozemo iznenaditi USA u cetvrtfinalu, ali pitanje koliko je to realno sa povredjenim Grbicem i samo 2 primaca.
Ipak, uz ovakav voljni momenat nista nije nemoguce. :ph34r:


Apsolutno se slazem. Bojovic je iznenadio i odigrao odlicno, kao i Nikic. Ostali nikad i nisu bili problem. Prijem je bio jako dobar, imali smo srecu da Nemce nije isao servis, bar u prva dva seta, inace bi bilo jos teze. Moglo je i lakse, u prva dva seta smo imali po 6 razlike i to ispustali, ali srecom smo dobili te setove. Nadam se da je ovo dovoljno za 1/4 finale, i da Brazilci nece kalkulisati sa Nemcima, nemaju razloga za to.

Grbic mi nije delovao da je povredjen, igrao je odlicno kao i uvek. Elem, bice tesko sa USA, bas bi bilo lepo da "poludimo" i dobijemo ih, da im vratimo za poraz u finalu SL. O tome kad dodje vreme, ipak imamo i Egipat da odradimo.

Edited by Issey, 16 August 2008 - 13:34.


#17 vukotaman

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Posted 17 August 2008 - 16:36

Moze li gore... :)
Prijem je katastrofalan, pokusalo se sa Djerisilo, koja ocigledno nije imala dovoljno vremena da se privikne na mesto primaca, sada sa Jovanom Vesovic, ali posto ni sa njom to bolje ne funkcionise (a za njen napad da i ne pricam; ne znam ni sam koliko je puta izblokirana), ne razumem zasto konacno Brizitka ne zaigra? Naravno, ni Jelena i Ceba ne primaju na boljem nivou.
Servis...sta reci...jos samo da Brakocevic krene sa takticko-tehnickim servisima i imacemo najubojitiji servis u poslednjih 5 godina. Pa sa ovakvim servisom ne mozemo da pobedimo iole ozbiljniju ekipu.
Napad takodje los, ali se o njemu ne moze ni pricati s obzirom na uzasan prijem.
Ova igra nase reprezentacije podseca me na njihove pocetke i, pre svega, na EP u Hrvatskoj...nije valjda da smo se vratili toliko godina unazad.
...i sto je najgore, na licima devojaka vidi se malodusnost, za razliku od odbojkasa, koji, iako nisu u najboljoj formi, pokusavaju borbenoscu da naprave neki rezultat.
Naravno, nista jos nije gotovo. Kuba nije psiholoski najstabilnija ekipa i ako pocne da gresi, imacemo sanse za prolaz dalje. Jedina dobra stvar je da devojke verovatno ne mogu da odigraju gore.
Ajmo bre devojke, probudite se :ph34r:

Edited by vukotaman, 17 August 2008 - 16:38.


#18 Issey

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Posted 18 August 2008 - 01:52

Ma ovo je uzas kako igraju. Nije mi jasno kako je ova ekipa koja je igrala odlicno, hvatala u odbrani skoro sve, sa odlicnim prijemom i servisom, koja je osvojila dve medalje na jakim takmicenjima, sada spala na ovakvu igru. Pa ovo je nivo odbojke koji se igra u osnovnoj skoli... Nije problem izgubiti utakmicu od jakog protivnika, a pritom se boriti i igrati nesto. Ali ovo ne lici na odbojku.

Nije mi jasan ovaj Terzic. Covek je izgubio kompas totalno, i definitivno posle ove olimpijade mora da ode. Pa imali smo (a i dalje imamo) najsperspektivniji mladi tim na svetu, koji je igrom obecavao i pokazao da moze sa svima da igra, pa cak i sa Brazilom i Italijom, Rusiju i da ne spominjem. A gde smo sad? Igramo smesno, konfuzno, depresivno... rekao bih i ponizavajuce. Na utakmici protiv Rusije neke totalno cudne odluke. Svaka cast Jovani Vesovic, ali je ocigledno da ta devojka nije za ovaj nivo takmicenja. Bilo je tuzno i iritantno gledati sta joj je radio ruski blok. I to 10-tak puta za redom. Prijem joj je i OK, prosecan, ali sta to vredi kad ne moze da prodje u napadu. I on je covek ladno drzi u igri sve vreme. Ako vec nije zvao Anju (a morao je zbog koristi tima jer je nezamenljiva sta god ko pricao, kao sto se i pokazalo), zasto nije ubacio Brizitku, koja je ranije igrala odlicno kad je menjala Anju. Ako je povredjena nije trebao da je zove uopste, ima drugih igracica dovoljno. Jelena Nikolic? Jel to ONA Jelena Nikolic? Koja je razbijala kako je igrala ne tako davno? Kako ta devojka sad igra to je horor. Prijem katastrofa, i kad uhvati servis to je 3 metra od mreze. Gde je nestao njen ofanzivni servis? Ovaj takticki koji uporno gura ne moze da ubaci nego redovno pogadja mreze ili izbaci u aut. Imala je uzasan procenat na svim utakmicama sa tim "taktickim" servisom. Maja Ognjenovic... iako je mnogi hvale, devojka je ubedljivo najlosiji tehnicar u poredjenju sa tehnicarima ostalih ekipa sa kojima smo dosad igrali, sto je naravno jos jedan razlog tako loseg ucinka ostatka ekipe u napadu, i toliko primljenih blokova. One dobro skuvane lopte su malo ako je organizacija losa. Cak i kad se primi servis kako treba ona pravi neka "ninja" dizanja, koja su najmanje logicna u tom trenutku. Uz to dize daleko od mreze, sto mozda odgovara samo Jovani Brakocevic i to ne uvek. Usput, Jovana je jedina koju bih zaista pohvalio, jer bar napada servisom, smecuje i prolazi koliko toliko, i ona je nasa najbolja igracica za sad. Igra na srednjake i ne postoji, protiv Rusije nisam zapamtio dva puta da je isla na Vesnu ili Natasu, mada i one su se utopile u ovo crnilo od igre koju prikazujemo... Danas je zamenio Djerisilo posle par poena, koja ruku na srce igra slabo, ali u napadu je mnogo bolja opcija od Jovane Vesovic. Djerisilo je tip igracice koja se mnogo bolje snalazi na mestu korektora, ali je Jovana Br. fenomenalna i zaista je greota drzati jednu od njih dve na klupi. Tako da mi taj Terzicev potez u pocetku nije smetao, ali ocigledno da to ne funcionise, pre svega zbog losijeg prijema i jos losije igre u odbrani. A sa Vesovickom trpi napad... A naravno Jelena Nikolic je nezamenljiva kako god da igra, a igra uzasno na ovim OI. Igracica tipa Anje Spasojevic, koja i odbranu i napad igra odlicno je jedino resenje da se ovde povezu redovi, koji ne funcionisu nikako, sto je iskljuciva i jedina krivica trenera!!! Moram da pomenem i jako losu igru Suzane Cebic, koja je do sad uvek bila fenomenalna, ali na OI igra mnogo lose i na prijemu i u odbrani. Najlosiji libero za sad. Ali to je valjda u duhu cele ekipe. Terzic mi se nikada nije dopadao, onako namracen, ironican, koji vice na igracice koje ga cini mi se gledaju sa nekim strahom, kao da im se smucio vise taj njegov nastup, sto me uopste ne bi cudilo. Na njihovim licima se vidi da su totalno pokisle, a kako i ne bi kad je ovo sto prikazuju totalna nemoc, cak ponizavajuce. Igra u odbrani je najbolji primer. Smesno je kako prolaze i one najlaganije lopte. Ali igracice su najmanje krive. Ili su u formi ili nisu, i na treneru je da ih poslozi kako treba.

Da imamo kvalitet to znamo, ne bi osvojili nista do sad. Tempiranje forme, priprema i odabir pravih igraca su trenerov posao, koji on na ovim OI nije odradio nikako, cak katastrofalno, za sad. Ne znam da li i najveci optimista moze da se nada da cemo sa ovakvom igrom moci, ne da dobijemo Kubu, nego da predjemo brojku od 15 poena po setu!!! Ako mu je ovo do sad prikazano taktika kojom je hteo da zavara protivnike, i mi nekim cudom odigramo odlicno i dobijemo Kubu, progutacu sve ovo sto sam napisao. Ali tesko da je to moguce. One igraju brzo i agresivno kao Brazike, serviraju jako, i tesko da bi ih dobili i da smo u boljoj formi.

Da ne duzim vise... Terzic treba da ode, dosta je bilo. Hvala na svemu sto je ucinio do sad ali vise ne ide ovako. I ako neuspeh na ovim OI treba da ima neku dobru stranu, onda je to odlazak Terzica. Mozda je ovo i preostro, mozda sam previse ocekivao pa sad ovako kritikujem. Mozda. Da smo igrali borbeno i agresivno kao ranije i izgubili, rec ne bih rekao, ali ovakva igra stvarno smeta, kad znamo da moze i mora mnogo bolje. Ovo do sad... veliko razocarenje i ponizenje.

Edited by Issey, 18 August 2008 - 01:52.


#19 steins

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Posted 18 August 2008 - 15:27

Zna li iko sta se desava sa Anjom i sa Brizitkom? Nisam ispratio taj deo price?

#20 Noblica

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Posted 18 August 2008 - 15:51

Spasojević: Kasno je i za Japan i za Peking

Reprezentativka Srbije u odbojci Anja Spasojević izjavila je da će "igrati za reprezentaciju ukoliko neko bude smatrao da treba da igra", ali da je za nju sada "kasno i za Japan i za Peking".

Spasojević je na konferenciji za novinare podsetila da se već nekoliko meseci spekuliše oko njenog neigranja za nacionalni tim Srbije.

"Ne bih da se to nastavlja sada kad je reprezentaciji potreban mir i puna podrška da bi se pripremila za najvažnije takmičenje za nas sportiste - Olimpijske igre", navela je talentovana odbojkašica .
Spasojević je stavila do znanja da je u osnovi njene odluke da ne igra za reprezentaciju "nesporazum sa selektorom Zoranom Terzićem".

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ODBOJKA: I Anja Spasojević u Pekingu?

"Buntovna" Anja Spasojević se pokajala i tražila je razgovor sa selektorom odbojkaške reprezentacije Zvezdanom Terzićem kako bi izgledili nesporazume i eventualno se vratila u nacionalni tim i igrala na Olimpijskim igrama u Pekingu, saznaje MONDO.

Terzić je Anju Spasojević "prepustio" ostalim članicama srpske reprezentacije i odluku o njenom eventualnom povratku prepuistio njima. Naime, Anja Spasojević i ostale igračice imale su dug i otvoren razgovor, pa postoji mogućnost da se i ona ipak nađe na spisku putnica za Peking.

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#21 vukotaman

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Posted 18 August 2008 - 19:25

Evo malo Zorzijevih zapazanja o cetvrtfinalistima:

Muskarci:

U.S.A. (1° POOL A)
Three excellent players: the setter Ball, the diagonal hitter Stanley and the wing hitter Priddy. Two standard middle the blockers, Millar and Lee, and Salmon and Lambourne, two hardworking players, totally committed to digging and passing. All of them joined by a common strong will, able to support the unavoidable ups and downs of any match. This is the basic portrait of the amazing North American team. They make simple Volleyball focusing only on “the good Volleyball playing, nothing else”. It seems easy but this is the secret to succeed in Volleyball.

ITALY (2° POOL A)
The Italian team got the second place in Pool A tough Anastasi had to deal with many injures: Fei (sprained ankle), Mastrangelo and Corsano (knee problem). The Italian coach in the five matches started with many different lined up and I don’t know if it was a choice or a necessity.
The best Italian performance so far was against Bulgaria and the worst against USA and China.
Given that Italy “could be” a good team in attacking and blocking, to try to win against Poland they need to play with a totally different defense attitude.
By the way, since the Olympic Games in Barcelona in 1992, Italy was always considered one of the favorite teams to win the gold medal. Here, many reporters are repeating that this condition is a big advantage because the Italians can play without any pressure. Being a former player I can assure that those kind of matters interest journalists much more than players.

BULGARIA (3° POOL A)
The Bulgarians had to manage the thorny situation of their captain Konstantinov, who missed the first four matches due to his return to Sofia to test some weird values. Reassured by the results, which excluded the assumptions of any illegal substance, he flew back to Beijing to play the last match (not decisive) of the Preliminary Round. His team-mates have already achieved the qualification to the quarter final but they had to deal with many problems in reception because Konstantinov is their best receiver. The missing of consistent passers and the consequent drop in general efficiency, was the biggest issue of Martin Stoev, the Bulgarian coach.
Now, the team is complete but they could pay for the few matches played together.
Yesterday I described Cuban Women players as “historically unpredictable”. Well, this definition suits perfectly to Bulgarian Men’s team too.

CHINA (4° POOL A)
I cannot explain why Chinese players are skilled enough in individually but they don’t succeed in playing good as a team. They are endowed of a discrete technique but during the game they make a lot of simple errors.
In the sport we use two terms to describe different phases of the training: analytical and global. The analytical drills aimed to improve the individual abilities while global exercises help to combine together those skills.
Chinese are asymmetric: too analytical and less global.


BRASILE (1° POOL B)
The Brazilian team is fighting hard because they want to close this cycle with the second Olympic gold medal. Hugh Mc Cutcheon, the US team coach, after the US team victory in the 2007 World Cup defined Brazilian as players “not that better to explain their longest winning streak. The Brazilians worked harder than any other team, thus they deserve a special esteem”.
Now they are trying to deal with Giba’s injury and though their performances aren’t the best ever, they got the first place in the Pool B. They have lost the distinguishing rapidity and smoothness in attack and Gustavo, one of the best blockers in the world, is less efficient than usual. However their willpower is the strongest and I consider Brazil the favorite to win the gold.


RUSSIA (2° POOL B)
The Russian team was performing well. Grankin, the Russian setter, succeeded in the quick set, which has been considered his weakest point. The correlation with both the middle blockers, Volkov and Kuleshov, was much better than usual. Moreover, the atypical enthusiasm displayed by all the Russian players in the previous matches seemed the proof of their new attitude.
Today Russian players partially wasted what they achieved in the last days.
From the beginning, Poltavskiy replaced Mikhaylov as opposite and, after the first set won easily, they played following their old patterns (no quick attack and weak defense) losing confidence.
After today’s defeat against Poland, I wonder who will be the starting players in the next crucial match against Bulgaria: Poltavskiy or Mikhaylov?
Will Grankin succeed in playing quickly?
Will the Russians recover the confidence they had?
These issues would have been useless if the Russians had played as they did in the last matches.
“The speedy train hard to stop” we have seen so far, is slowing suddenly down.


POLONIA (3° POOL B)
I think that Poles have dreamed to be in this conditions. They worked hard to peak at the Olympic Games and since the victory in the first tricky match against Germany they played consistently. Only once (in the match against Brazil, after the first set lost 30-28), they gave up. Lozano, their coach, wants a determined and resolute team. He’s looking for a team able to overcome the tough moments during the game. The Polish players are talented but sometimes they suffered the lack of results. In the Preliminary Round Wlazly and Winiarski were excellent in sharing their confidence with the other team mates. Poland is a team which can perform well in all the fundamentals, relying on a good mix of psychical strength and technical skills. The quarter finals are always the most complicated match in all the tournament because the defeat in this phase is a kind of failure. That’s why the pressure is really heavy.

SERBIA (4° POOL B)
The Serbians seem relaxed despite two victories and three defeats. N. Grbic said that their only concern is the level of their own performances. Serbians aren’t playing as good as they did in Rio de Janeiro a few weeks ago during the World league Finals. They will encounter a squad, USA, that technically speaking is similar. I think that the US team has more probabilities to reach the semifinals because it is playing more steadily than Serbia.
However, I know pretty well I. Miljkovic - the Serbian diagonal hitter - who is a wonderful player able to change alone the destiny of a match, thus the match could be more balanced than expected.




Zene:


BRAZIL (1° POOL B)
After the preliminary Round, Ze Roberto’s team is definitely the best team. They are playing wonderfully in any phases of the game. They have the right attitude and concentration and they succeeded easily in any fundamentals. So far, no team seems steady enough to compete with Brazilians players. Ze Roberto keeps on playing down their victories to lighten the pressure depending on the past: Brazil won a lot of tournaments but they never got the gold medal in the Olympic Games.

ITALY (2° POOL B)
This is not the same team I saw in the 2007 World Cup. That team played with patience, smartness and accuracy, avoiding any unforced errors. Today, in the match against Brazil, the players seemed totally out of control. On one hand, Lo Bianco’s distribution was confused and unstrategical, the spikers - on the other hand - were unable to overcome the opponent’s block. In defense the Italians were slow, inaccurate and, moreover, with the wrong emotional approach. I know and I appreciate the Italian coach Barbolini, thus I think that - though the poor performance - he can improve this negative condition and face quite confidently the quarter final against USA

RUSSIA (3° POOL B)
Before the last game with Serbia, Russia was already qualified counting on the victories over ALGERIA and KAZAKHSTAN. Though the Russians achieved their first goal, they have to deal with many uncertainties. Both the setters are often considered responsible for the poor performances. As a matter of fact, M. Akulova and M. Sheshinina aren’t so accurate as they should be to play at this level, but blaming a player (intended as a role) like the sole responsible for the bad performances hides the truth. The Russian athletes should perform with the right attitude focusing on the different game phases rather than relying only on service, attack and block. Today they easily topped Serbia displaying some improvements both at technical (quick set and defense) and emotional levels. In the next match Russia will face China and the players will have to keep on playing with patience, smartness as they did against Serbia to have any chance to win.


SERBIA (4° POOL B)
Terzic, the Serbian coach, after the defeat against Russia said: “we would have played the Preliminary Round to improve our game level but we failed. I think that in the Quarter Final against Cuba we can show that we didn’t forget how we can play Volleyball”.
His face was grim and also the players during the game were unusually aimless. They Russian serve efficiency affected the Serbian attack but they performed poorly also in the other fundamentals not depending on the opponents excellence. The spirited strong willed team ready to chase any ball, seen many times in the last years, has disappeared and who knows if in two days it will come back.


CUBA (1° POOL A)
By far the best team in the Pool A. The Cubans easily overwhelmed all the opponents but the Chinese team, with whom, six days ago, they were losing 2-0. In the third set, Santos, one of the two Cubans setters, begun serving wonderfully and after that, the Caribbean succeeded in winning three sets in a row.
The Cubans are playing unexpectedly good in defense and block, which have been often their weaker points. Obviously they rely mainly on attack and serve but, what makes the difference from the recent past, are the control and stability they seem to have finally found. The quarter final match against Serbia could turn to be effortless, but we have to take into consideration the pressure of the “in or out” Olympic match, the Serbian pride and the historical Cuban unpredictability.
They can do anything: play wonderfully or poorly and no one, not even them, can know before.

U.S.A. (2° POOL A)
The most frequent suggestion Lang Ping gave to her players during the time out is: “forget the result and focus only on the current point”. The US coach, born in China, is the most stable coach I have ever seen. She acts always like a quiet and positive leader (probably her oriental origin helps to behave in this way). She never displays any worries, also when the match is actually complicated. The North- American players take advantage of this confidence playing at their best. Both the US teams Women and Men, are standard talented but they fully exploit their skills. During the Preliminary Round the other teams have difficulty spotting the US game strategies because Lang Ping was rotating all the available players, who repay her with good performances.

CHINA (3° POOL A)
The home team has a big issue: they have only one powerful hitter and playing against the top teams turns out to be a big disadvantage. Those squads can easily foresee who would attack, thus prepare at their best to reduce the effect of the spikes.
After two defeats in a row (against Cuba and USA) they were worried and risked to lose the first set against Japan in the last Preliminary Round match. Could you imagine the pressure of the Chinese athletes playing at home with the “beloved” cousins!
Now they will face Russia and the crucial point will be: how many opportunities got in defense will they’ exploit attacking effectively?

JAPAN (4° POOL A)
I like the Japanese approach to the games. They know that they aren’t a first class team, but they play any match with great awareness without discouraging nor giving up. Japanese are extremely skilled only in defense and they keep always striving for the best. They never look at the score board and often, after the defeats, it seems that they are more concerned to evaluate their own performances than the mere results. This wise behavior was crucial in the decisive match against Poland. Japanese players were two sets ahead, when the match suddenly changed. Polish players started to block much better and easily won the third set. The fourth was more balanced but it was also won by the Polish girls.
In that conditions, the most part of the athletes would have shown signs of disappointment. Not the Japanese, they played consistently and succeeded in winning the most important match of their Olympic Tournament.
In the next match this approach won’t be enough to win against Brazil, but I’m sure that they will do their best deserving the sincere congratulations for having reached their goal: the qualification to the quarter final.




Srecno devojkama sutra u 04:00 :ph34r:

Edited by vukotaman, 18 August 2008 - 19:36.


#22 vukotaman

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 19:51

Nazalost, desilo se ono sto se i moglo ocekivati. Cak su devojke odigrale veoma pristojno, ali par losih poteza sprecio ih je da ucine mec neizvesnijim. Sem Jovane Brakocevic, sve ostale devojke nisu ispunile ocekivanja. Bas me zanima kakve je to pripreme Terzic sproveo za OI s obzirom na sadasnju formu devojaka.
I posle svega, najvise mi smetaju izjave pojedinih igracica tipa: "Bilo je ovo veliko iskustvo", "Moramo jos raditi kako bi bili na nivou najboljih reprezentacija" i sl...
Pa iste ove Kubanke smo ne tako davno relativno lako pobedili.
Plasman od 5-8 mesta nije neuspeh, ali sigurno jeste nacin na koji su devojke igrale....Najlosija igra u poslednjih par godina i to na najvaznijem takmicenju. :ph34r:
Nesto se mora promeniti.

#23 McLeod

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 20:03

A zasto posle prvog neuspeha (mada ja ovo ne smatram za neuspeh) odmah svi o nekim promenama pricaju? Devojke su generalno odigrale mozda losije nego sto smo ocekivali, ali ova poslednja utakmica je bila jako dobra, i lako smo da je ucinimo neizvesnijom, cak i dobijemo. Pobedili smo ih na proslom velikom takmicenju na kome smo igrali zajedno, a to je bilo relativno davno, kada se pogleda da smo skorije igrali sa Poljskom i Rusijom, na primer, koje su takodje zavrsile takmicenje, Poljakinje cak pre cetvrtfinala. I kada se uzme u obzir da smo igrali sa Kubankama, koje su po mom misljenju glavni kandidati za zlato, uz Brazil naravno, uopste nije tako lose.

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 23:31

Ako se tako gleda onda je i sam plasman na OI veliki uspeh, sto naravno i jeste. Ali nama po kvalitetu koji imamo plasman na svako veliko takmicenje mora da se podrazumeva od sad, a ne da se smatra uspehom.

Cinjenica je da smo igrali sa najjacim svetskim ekipama, i ne bi bio nikakav problem da smo sve pogubili, kao sto i jesmo, ali da je igra bila na nivou na kom su nase igrale kad su na svetskom i evropskom prvenstvu uzele medalju. Ali ova igra koju su prikazale je blagi uzas. Neorganizovano, smotano.. tehnicki elemeti, prijem i servis nikad gori, igra u odbrani na nivou rekreativaca. Tehnicar katastrofa, igrala bez zamene ceo turnir... Nije mogla da poveze tri akcije kako treba, pa je zbog nje najvise Vesna Citakovic ispadala smesna, a i druge... Tempiranje forme, prica za sebe. Sve to je bio posao trenera, koji je on jako lose obavio. Pri tom je napravio losu atmosferu, podele u ekipi svadjom sa Anjom Spasojevic, koja je nasa najbitnija igracica. Stavio je svoje principe iznad interesa ekipe i rezultata.

Od njega se, u najmanju ruku, ocekivalo da unapredi ekipu jos vise jer ona ima kvalitet. Da ta ekipa pruzi dobru igru, povezanu i organizovanu, cak i na visem nivou nego ranije, jer su OI ipak takmicenje koje je jednom u 4 godine i svi se spremaju i tempiraju za to. Da smo to videli u Pekingu, i pogubili sve utakmice nekim nesrecnim slucajem, ili ako je protivnik bio bolji, niko ni rec ne bi rekao. Ovako su nas ponizile sve jace ekipe sa kojima smo igrali, delovali smo presmesno. I Kuba nas je relativno lako dobila iako su nase odigrale na trenutke dobro, ali kraj prvog i treceg seta je No comment, kakve su ono smesne greske bile i bukvalno poklonjeni setovi... Poljska i Rusija su ispale, ali su igrale dobru odbojku i izgubile od boljih. I mi smo izgubili, ali uz ocajnu odbojku.

Zbog navedenih razloga Terzic bi morao da ode, jer nije sposoban da unapredi ovu ekipu. Za ono sto je uradio do sad, svaka mu cast, ali siguran sam da bi sa njim kao selektorom svaki sledeci put prolazili isto kao sad ako ne i gore. Ako je neko sa tim zadovoljan, neka Terzic bude dozivotni selektor. Sa ovakvom igrom bi i sam plasman na velika takmicenja ubuduce dolazio u pitanje. Ovo sto je on pokusao, bez Anje, kao i eksperimenti sa postavom, jednostavno ne ide. Nama treba zdrava atmosfera u ekipi, i sve najbolje igracice koje imamo! To nam je mnogo vaznije nego sam Terzic. Nemamo mi vremena za gubljenje, imamo kvalitetnu generaciju odbojkasica, i to treba da iskoristimo i postignemo rezultate. Ali sa drugim selektorom.

#25 perkos

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 06:52

Kojeg mi to trenera imamo u ženskoj odbojci?
Zakoč,Nešić i ko još da bi mogao da bude novi selektor...

Edited by perkos, 20 August 2008 - 06:52.


#26 McLeod

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 17:27

Malo cu samo da osvrnem, tj. da uporedim Terzica sa Kolakovicem. Kolakovic bi samo zbog ove danas utakmice trebalo da ide! Covek izbacuje ceo mec iz ritma Bojovica, cim krene da igra on uvodi Janica, koji ne moze da skoci, pa samim tim ne moze ni da napadne. Miljkovic skoro ceo mec nije u udarcu, i umesto tu da proba da promeni malo ritam sa Starovicem, da makar odmori Ivana neko vreme, on ga tvrdoglavo drzi u igri, i Nikola tvrdoglavo dize na njega! I Nikiceva utakmica zivota, a i Samardziceva boga mi ode u WC solju. Stvarno... ne znam, nemam reci.

#27 McLeod

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 17:28

Malo cu samo da osvrnem, tj. da uporedim Terzica sa Kolakovicem. Kolakovic bi samo zbog ove danas utakmice trebalo da ide! Covek izbacuje ceo mec iz ritma Bojovica, cim krene da igra on uvodi Janica, koji ne moze da skoci, pa samim tim ne moze ni da napadne. Miljkovic skoro ceo mec nije u udarcu, i umesto tu da proba da promeni malo ritam sa Starovicem, da makar odmori Ivana neko vreme, on ga tvrdoglavo drzi u igri, i Nikola tvrdoglavo dize na njega! I Nikiceva utakmica zivota, a i Samardziceva boga mi ode u WC solju. Stvarno... ne znam, nemam reci.

#28 vukotaman

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 17:37

Cestitke odbojkasima na odlicnoj partiji. Vidno je bilo poboljsanje igre u svakom narednom mecu; steta sto se cetvrtfinale nije odigralo par dana kasnije. Odlucivale su nijanse ali pre svega...sreca. Vec drugi put zaredom igramo desetkovani cetvrtfinale na OI. Ocigledno se u ovom trenutku vise nije moglo. Da je bilo vise srece mozda bi dobili i sa 3:0, da nismo napravili par gresaka vise na pocetku drugog seta, da nam sudija nije oduzeo onaj poen u istom tom setu, da je Grbic bolje dignuo loptu Miljkovicu, mislim na 22:22, opet u drugom setu...
Sve u svemu, ova godina je ipak uspesno zavrsena (po mom misljenju) za odbojkase. Plasirali su se na OI, uzeli srebro u SL i bili veoma blizu medalje na OI, ali ono sto je ipak najvaznije, jeste to da su ponovo (pre svega prikazanom igrom) u svetskom vrhu. Losa vest je samo odlazak Nikole Grbica, nadam se da cemo koliko-toliko uspeti da nadomestimo njegovo povlacenje.

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Ne otvaram vise nikad nijednu temu u vezi sporta :ph34r:

#29 SaleKostolac

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 17:46

Steta :ph34r:

#30 gorbat

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 20:04

ma nemojmo se zavaravati, nije sreca, nego bolja fizicka i psihicka spremnost amerikanaca. mi verovatno imamo bolje talente, iz 10 miliona naspram 320 miliona napravili smo izvrstan tim, kome je na kraju 'samo malo nedostajalo', ali pobeda se prenosi a ne poraz. mi verovatno imamo i dobre strucnjake (ne vrhunske ocigledno) zahvaljujuci tradiciji u odbojci, ali mislim da uz to treba da imamo i strucnjake koji ce kondiciono da pripreme igrace i takodje psiholoski tim koji ce da radi sa njima na mentalnoj snazi u kriznim trenucima.
videlo se tacno na kraju da su amerikanci imali vise snage sto bi se reklo.