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#1 alpiner

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 07:44

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Dužina staze: 4.411 km

Rekord kruga: 1:15.377 Michael Schumacher, Ferrari, 2004

Šumi je apsolutni kralj ove staze sa rekordnih osam pobeda.

2007:
Pole position: Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 1:15.034

Najbrži krug: Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 1:16.099 on lap 42

Trka:
1 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:30:54.200
2 Felipe Massa Ferrari +2.414
3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes +32.153
4 Robert Kubica BMW Sauber +41.727
5 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber +48.801
6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault +51.940
7 Fernando Alonso McLaren-Mercedes +56.516
8 Jenson Button Honda +58.885

#2 alberto.ascari

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 09:30

Računam na double u Francuskoj, ova staza nam leži, bolidi su brzi, a ako ne bude neko nepredvidjeno syebavanje, što ne bi trebalo, jer računam na 1-2 u qvaldi i brzo odvajanje od ostatka, vraćamo stvari na svoje mesto. Borba za poslednje slobodno mesto na podijumu izmedju KUB i HAM.

Znači, dosadna trka.
edit - potpuno sam zaboravio na -10 za HAM, ništa od podijuma.

Edited by alberto.ascari, 17 June 2008 - 16:16.


#3 alpiner

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 21:59

Tech file - Magny-Cours


The Grand Prix circuit in Magny-Cours includes an interesting variety of challenges for drivers and cars alike: three high-speed corners at the start of the lap; a very slow hairpin at Adelaide; two enjoyable high-speed chicanes; and more changes of gradient than the flattening eye of television shows. As always, the ideal set-up will be about finding the right compromise to achieve the R28’s optimum performance at every point of the circuit.

Downforce
Magny-Cours demands a much higher level of downforce than we used in Canada, which required a low-medium set-up. Magny-Cours demands a medium-high configuration to ensure the cars are competitive through the high-speed corners such as turn 3, and the chicanes at turns 6/7 and 11/12. While it is tempting to reduce wing levels in order to gain straightline speed to try overtaking into the Adelaide hairpin, this is rarely a feasible solution: the back straight is preceded by the high-speed turn three, and while reduced downforce would allow greater top speed, it would have a detrimental effect through this corner, costing speed and also making it more difficult to follow a competitor closely. It is something of a Catch-22 situation, and we consequently prefer to maintain our high downforce set-up to achieve the optimum lap-time.

Suspension
Magny-Cours is renowned as an exceptionally smooth circuit, which allows the teams to run lower ride heights and stiffer suspension settings to improve aerodynamic performance. This also has the added benefit of making the car more responsive in the high-speed changes of direction required through the two quick chicanes. As ever, though, a good compromise must be found because the circuit also includes a number of very slow corners, where softer settings would offer better grip, and the correct balance must be struck between performance in the high and low-speed corners.

Tyres
Magny-Cours is a circuit that is particularly temperature-sensitive, and something as seemingly insignificant as a few minutes of cloud cover can have a drastic impact on track temperatures – and thus grip levels. Bridgestone will be bringing the ‘soft’ and ‘medium’ tyre compounds from the 2008 range to this race, and as always, successful management of both tyre types will be key to a successful race strategy.

Transmission
The cars are generally short and closely-geared at Magny-Cours, in order to optimise performance on the exit of the slow corners. The team will pay particular attention to performance from 0 to 250 kph, as this will ensure strong performance through the slower parts of the circuit – which in turn determine top speeds on the straights. The transmission can also come under severe strain from riding the kerbs, which the drivers do on several occasions, and particularly at the end of the lap. In qualifying, it is necessary to use the kerbs to gain lap-time but we may ask the drivers to be more cautious in race conditions, to preserve the reliability of the engine and transmission.

Engine
Magny-Cours is not a particularly severe circuit in terms of engine performance. The V8 will spend around 63% of the lap at full throttle – slightly above the season average, but nevertheless a normal value. A torquey engine is always an asset at this circuit, as it will ensure the car exits strongly from the slow corners; equally, we will look to ensure power delivery is as smooth and linear as possible, so that chassis balance is not disrupted when the drivers are using partial to full throttle in the chicanes, or through turn 3

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 22:09

Kimi: Magny-Cours 'perfect' for Ferrari

“The smooth surface of the French track, its demanding corners and the quick changes of direction will underline the characteristics of the F2008.

“It was here in France last year that my season practically started all over again; and this is what I need now, after the two races with no points.

“I like this track and I think that it's perfect for our car. I think we'll be competitive and that we can go for the maximum result.”

#5 alberto.ascari

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 22:27

Kimi: Magny-Cours 'perfect' for Ferrari

“The smooth surface of the French track, its demanding corners and the quick changes of direction will underline the characteristics of the F2008.

“It was here in France last year that my season practically started all over again; and this is what I need now, after the two races with no points.

“I like this track and I think that it's perfect for our car. I think we'll be competitive and that we can go for the maximum result.”



To sam ti ja već rekao i bez Kimija :ph34r:

#6 alpiner

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 23:21

To sam ti ja već rekao i bez Kimija :ph34r:


Ma ja samo želim da potvrdim i da ljudi najozbiljnije shvate šta si napisao. :)

Edited by alpiner, 18 June 2008 - 10:59.


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Posted 18 June 2008 - 09:40

Tačnije, dao si Kimijevim rečima dodatnu težinu :ph34r:

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 10:29

:ph34r:
Zakasnio sam za 5 minuta da se kladim na masu za quali prije treninga... sad ce da bude kvota katastrofa...

Potpuno je lud... mislim da imam 5 najbrzih krugova...

#9 alberto.ascari

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 10:44

0,7s brži od Hamiltona, peti Kubica je sporiji za sekundu.

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 11:07

Evo ostalih vremena:

1. Massa Ferrari 1:15.306 22
2. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.002 + 0.696 22
3. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.055 + 0.749 20
4. Raikkonen Ferrari 1:16.073 + 0.767 21
5. Kubica BMW Sauber 1:16.377 + 1.071 19
6. Alonso Renault 1:16.400 + 1.094 23
7. Trulli Toyota 1:16.758 + 1.452 32
8. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:16.838 + 1.532 27
9. Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:16.870 + 1.564 21
10. Glock Toyota 1:16.886 + 1.580 31
11. Piquet Renault 1:17.063 + 1.757 31
12. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1:17.234 + 1.928 21
13. Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:17.269 + 1.963 22
14. Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:17.394 + 2.088 30
15. Barrichello Honda 1:17.491 + 2.185 25
16. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:17.683 + 2.377 27
17. Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:17.696 + 2.390 25
18. Button Honda 1:17.928 + 2.622 21
19. Fisichella Force India-Ferrari 1:18.072 + 2.766 27
20. Sutil Force India-Ferrari 1:18.673 + 3.367 13

#11 alberto.ascari

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 14:36

ALO ispred MAS za 0,076s, sporiji od prvog treninga cca 0,4s.

slede RAI, HAM, VET, KUB, svi stali u 0,5s

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 14:39

1. Alonso Renault 1:15.778 37
2. Massa Ferrari 1:15.854 + 0.076 24
3. Raikkonen Ferrari 1:15.999 + 0.221 42
4. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.232 + 0.454 29
5. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:16.298 + 0.520 42
6. Kubica BMW Sauber 1:16.317 + 0.539 35
7. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.340 + 0.562 36
8. Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:16.458 + 0.680 43
9. Piquet Renault 1:16.543 + 0.765 39
10. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1:16.572 + 0.794 36
11. Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:16.682 + 0.904 42
12. Trulli Toyota 1:16.743 + 0.965 43
13. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:16.758 + 0.980 42
14. Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:17.002 + 1.224 32
15. Glock Toyota 1:17.092 + 1.314 39
16. Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:17.106 + 1.328 38
17. Button Honda 1:17.244 + 1.466 37
18. Fisichella Force India-Ferrari 1:17.394 + 1.616 42
19. Barrichello Honda 1:17.591 + 1.813 27
20. Sutil Force India-Ferrari 1:17.868 + 2.090 33

A Piquet na +0.765

Tek sada se setih da je ovo Renault-u domaca staza.

Edited by Uzice, 20 June 2008 - 14:43.


#13 alpiner

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 14:42

Bravo Nando Bravo Bravo!!!

Lepo videti.

@ Uzice Valjda ćemo se i mi malo radovati.

Očekujem da do kraja sezone Renault drpi neko postolje.

Edited by alpiner, 20 June 2008 - 14:43.


#14 alberto.ascari

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 14:52

Bravo Nando Bravo Bravo!!!

Lepo videti.

@ Uzice Valjda ćemo se i mi malo radovati.

Očekujem da do kraja sezone Renault drpi neko postolje.



To bi morao da izdrži bolid celu trku :ph34r:

šalim se, ne pripada mu sedmo mesto i 9 bodova, ma koliko mi bio nesimpatičan, a Nelsinho da nema tatu, mislim da bi odavno bio nazad u GP2.

edit - deveto, još sam mu poboljšao plasman...

Edited by alberto.ascari, 20 June 2008 - 14:57.


#15 alpiner

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 15:03

Ćuj stari, pa Renault je do skoro bio najpozdaniji bolid na gridu. Biće oni ok.

U Silversone stižu sa još modifikacija. Najvažnija je zadnje ogibljenje. Nadam se da će se približiti vodećima.