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Planina, planina, planina
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Posted 09 January 2008 - 12:56
Pogled sa Marmolade, kraljice Dolomita na sever, kabina za 80 ljudi, pogled sa Porta Vescovo iznad Arabbe na sever
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 12:11
Nego Alberto, pošto već pomenu Sella Ronda - jel izvodljivo da se napravi pun giro u 1 danu, bez da to bude samo puko prelaženje sa žice na žicu? Racimo iz Arrabe, sa pretpostavkom da se skija od 9 do 16h.
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Nego Alberto, pošto već pomenu Sella Ronda - jel izvodljivo da se napravi pun giro u 1 danu, bez da to bude samo puko prelaženje sa žice na žicu? Racimo iz Arrabe, sa pretpostavkom da se skija od 9 do 16h.
Jeste moguće, bez ikakvog problema. Sa pauzom za ručak i pivo od sat vremena 'ladno možeš da stigneš. 2 uslova: ne sme da bude jak vetar (što nije čest slučaj), da bi bile uključene sve žičare, drugi (nije neophodan) da ne bude mnogo novog snega na stazama, recima da pada sneg celu noć i da ne stignu to da ispeglaju drugi dan. Onda može da bude naporno i puno sporije ide. Mada ovo je relativno, ja ne volim neravne staze, ima ljudi koji u njima uživaju. Za mene je ideal "somot". Iz Arabbe je bolji narandžasti smer, tj, uopšte je lepše skijanje po narandžastoj turi - bar se meni više svidja.
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 21:21
pa sad... neki to baš voleJda ne bude mnogo novog snega na stazama, recima da pada sneg celu noć i da ne stignu to da ispeglaju drugi dan.
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Posted 11 January 2008 - 11:16
Ne znam gde ovo da stavim, planina mi dodje kao pravo mesto.
Jedna tužna vest. Danas je umro Sir Edmund Hollary, prvi čovek koji je savladao Mount Everest
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Everest legend Edmund Hillary diesStory Highlights
One of the 20th century's greatest adventurers has died at age 88
In 1953, Hillary and Tenzing Norgay became the first to reach top of Mount Everest
Hillary devoted much of his life to aiding the mountain people of Nepal
Hillary's life marked by grand achievements, adventure, discovery, excitement
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(CNN) -- Edmund Hillary, who gained worldwide fame after he and guide Tenzing Norgay became the first people to reach the summit of Mount Everest, has died after suffering a heart attack.
Sir Edmund Hillary took his fame in stride and considered himself just an ordinary beekeeper.
1 of 2 more photos » New Zealander Hillary, who was 88, died at Auckland City Hospital on Friday morning at 0900 local time, Hillary family spokesman Mark Sainsbury said. "He had been in good form and been looking forward to coming home, and had remained in good spirits to the end," Sainsbury said in a statement issued by the Hillary family.
"The family are honored to accept the government's offer of a state funeral, recognizing the impact he had on all New Zealanders. They are also comforted by the messages of support from around the country and around the world.
"His great friends the Sherpa people have called [wife] June and are organizing their own memorial service in Nepal."
On May 29, 1953, Hillary and Tenzing became the first men known to have climbed the 29,035 feet to the top of Everest and safely return.
A beekeeper who served during World War II in the Royal New Zealand Air Force, Hillary began climbing while in high school and traveled to the central Himalayas to join a British party exploring the southern face of Everest in 1951.
He returned in 1953, when he and Tenzing made their ascent -- spending 15-30 minutes at the summit. Hillary left a crucifix at the top of the mountain and Tenzing, in keeping with his Buddhist beliefs, left an offering of food.
Hillary took a picture of Tenzing at the peak but, because the Sherpa guide did not know how to use a camera, there are no pictures of Hillary there.
He was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II upon his return to England, but continued exploring -- reaching the South Pole by tractor in 1958, joining the first group to climb Antarctica's Mt. Herschel in 1967 and boating east Himalayan rivers and the Ganges.
Prime Minister Helen Clark paid tribute to Hillary, describing him as the best-known New Zealander ever to have lived. Listen to a friend of Edmund Hillary recollect his fellow Everest veteran »
"Sir Ed described himself as an average New Zealander with modest abilities," Clark said.
"In reality, he was a colossus. He was an heroic figure who not only 'knocked off' Everest but lived a life of determination, humility and generosity."
Flags throughout New Zealand flew at half-mast on Friday, while callers flooded talkback stations with tributes to Hillary.
Many shared anecdotes of personal meetings with the late adventurer, describing him as an iconic New Zealander whose achievements were important to both the country and the world.
Antarctica New Zealand chief executive Lou Sanson said his enduring image of Hillary was his love of the natural environment of the frozen continent.
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I-Report: Send photos, videos, memories of Sir Edmund Hillary
"Most of all you could tell he was in love with what was outside, which was that wild, harsh continent and the ability to live in that," Sanson said.
In his later years, Hillary became a strong supporter of environmental causes and worked to improve the lives of Nepal's Sherpas.
His Himalayan Trust has helped build schools, hospitals and airstrips in Nepal since 1961.
Hillary was not always complimentary of the more than 1,300 people who have climbed Everest since he did. In 2006, he harshly criticized a group of about 40 climbers that left Englishman David Sharp, 34, to die as they kept climbing to the top of Everest.
"Human life is far more important than just getting to the top of a mountain," he said at the time. "I think the whole attitude toward climbing Mt. Everest has become rather horrifying -- the people just want to get to the top.
In 2003, Hillary was made an honorary citizen of Nepal on the 50th anniversary of his historic climb.
Funeral arrangements would not be set until family members had returned from overseas, Sainsbury said. E-mail to a friend
CNN's Julie Clothier contributed to this report
All About Edmund Hillary • New Zealand • Mount Everest
Jedna tužna vest. Danas je umro Sir Edmund Hollary, prvi čovek koji je savladao Mount Everest
text sa CNN:
Everest legend Edmund Hillary diesStory Highlights
One of the 20th century's greatest adventurers has died at age 88
In 1953, Hillary and Tenzing Norgay became the first to reach top of Mount Everest
Hillary devoted much of his life to aiding the mountain people of Nepal
Hillary's life marked by grand achievements, adventure, discovery, excitement
Next Article in World »
Read VIDEO PHOTOS
(CNN) -- Edmund Hillary, who gained worldwide fame after he and guide Tenzing Norgay became the first people to reach the summit of Mount Everest, has died after suffering a heart attack.
Sir Edmund Hillary took his fame in stride and considered himself just an ordinary beekeeper.
1 of 2 more photos » New Zealander Hillary, who was 88, died at Auckland City Hospital on Friday morning at 0900 local time, Hillary family spokesman Mark Sainsbury said. "He had been in good form and been looking forward to coming home, and had remained in good spirits to the end," Sainsbury said in a statement issued by the Hillary family.
"The family are honored to accept the government's offer of a state funeral, recognizing the impact he had on all New Zealanders. They are also comforted by the messages of support from around the country and around the world.
"His great friends the Sherpa people have called [wife] June and are organizing their own memorial service in Nepal."
On May 29, 1953, Hillary and Tenzing became the first men known to have climbed the 29,035 feet to the top of Everest and safely return.
A beekeeper who served during World War II in the Royal New Zealand Air Force, Hillary began climbing while in high school and traveled to the central Himalayas to join a British party exploring the southern face of Everest in 1951.
He returned in 1953, when he and Tenzing made their ascent -- spending 15-30 minutes at the summit. Hillary left a crucifix at the top of the mountain and Tenzing, in keeping with his Buddhist beliefs, left an offering of food.
Hillary took a picture of Tenzing at the peak but, because the Sherpa guide did not know how to use a camera, there are no pictures of Hillary there.
He was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II upon his return to England, but continued exploring -- reaching the South Pole by tractor in 1958, joining the first group to climb Antarctica's Mt. Herschel in 1967 and boating east Himalayan rivers and the Ganges.
Prime Minister Helen Clark paid tribute to Hillary, describing him as the best-known New Zealander ever to have lived. Listen to a friend of Edmund Hillary recollect his fellow Everest veteran »
"Sir Ed described himself as an average New Zealander with modest abilities," Clark said.
"In reality, he was a colossus. He was an heroic figure who not only 'knocked off' Everest but lived a life of determination, humility and generosity."
Flags throughout New Zealand flew at half-mast on Friday, while callers flooded talkback stations with tributes to Hillary.
Many shared anecdotes of personal meetings with the late adventurer, describing him as an iconic New Zealander whose achievements were important to both the country and the world.
Antarctica New Zealand chief executive Lou Sanson said his enduring image of Hillary was his love of the natural environment of the frozen continent.
Don't Miss
NZ Prime Minister Clark issues statement
I-Report: Send photos, videos, memories of Sir Edmund Hillary
"Most of all you could tell he was in love with what was outside, which was that wild, harsh continent and the ability to live in that," Sanson said.
In his later years, Hillary became a strong supporter of environmental causes and worked to improve the lives of Nepal's Sherpas.
His Himalayan Trust has helped build schools, hospitals and airstrips in Nepal since 1961.
Hillary was not always complimentary of the more than 1,300 people who have climbed Everest since he did. In 2006, he harshly criticized a group of about 40 climbers that left Englishman David Sharp, 34, to die as they kept climbing to the top of Everest.
"Human life is far more important than just getting to the top of a mountain," he said at the time. "I think the whole attitude toward climbing Mt. Everest has become rather horrifying -- the people just want to get to the top.
In 2003, Hillary was made an honorary citizen of Nepal on the 50th anniversary of his historic climb.
Funeral arrangements would not be set until family members had returned from overseas, Sainsbury said. E-mail to a friend
CNN's Julie Clothier contributed to this report
All About Edmund Hillary • New Zealand • Mount Everest
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Posted 14 January 2008 - 14:25
Lavina danas ubila četvero ljudi u Italiji
Talijanske Alpe ovih dana zahvatile su obilne snježne padaline. Na žalost, nedjelja je donijela nove ljudske žrtve.
Jedan skijaš poginuo je danas u talijanskoj Marillevi, skijajući van uređenih staza. Lavina koja ga je zahvatila odnijela ga je ravno u drvo, a sudar je na žalost imao fatalne posljedice.
Još jedna nesreća dogodila se prije nekoliko sati u okolici Brescie. Lavina koja se s planine Monte Maniva obrušila na grupu motornih sanjkaša, prema posljednjim informacijama s terena, odnijela je tri života. Osmero ljudi izvučeno je živo iz snijega, ali s ozljedama, a jednu osobu lječnici još uvijek pokušavaju reanimirati.
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Usled obilnih padavina cele ove zime, mnogo ljudi je poginulo od lavina tokom dosadašnje sezone. Džaba i airbag-ovi i lokatori, kad tresne lavina, teško se ostaje živ.
Zaključak: jbo ih freeride, heliskiing i slične aktivnosti na -za lavine- opasnim padinama.
http://www.corriere....3ba99c667.shtml
Talijanske Alpe ovih dana zahvatile su obilne snježne padaline. Na žalost, nedjelja je donijela nove ljudske žrtve.
Jedan skijaš poginuo je danas u talijanskoj Marillevi, skijajući van uređenih staza. Lavina koja ga je zahvatila odnijela ga je ravno u drvo, a sudar je na žalost imao fatalne posljedice.
Još jedna nesreća dogodila se prije nekoliko sati u okolici Brescie. Lavina koja se s planine Monte Maniva obrušila na grupu motornih sanjkaša, prema posljednjim informacijama s terena, odnijela je tri života. Osmero ljudi izvučeno je živo iz snijega, ali s ozljedama, a jednu osobu lječnici još uvijek pokušavaju reanimirati.
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Usled obilnih padavina cele ove zime, mnogo ljudi je poginulo od lavina tokom dosadašnje sezone. Džaba i airbag-ovi i lokatori, kad tresne lavina, teško se ostaje živ.
Zaključak: jbo ih freeride, heliskiing i slične aktivnosti na -za lavine- opasnim padinama.
http://www.corriere....3ba99c667.shtml
Edited by miloos, 14 January 2008 - 15:13.
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Posted 14 January 2008 - 20:56
Lavina danas ubila četvero ljudi u Italiji
Talijanske Alpe ovih dana zahvatile su obilne snježne padaline. Na žalost, nedjelja je donijela nove ljudske žrtve.
Jedan skijaš poginuo je danas u talijanskoj Marillevi, skijajući van uređenih staza. Lavina koja ga je zahvatila odnijela ga je ravno u drvo, a sudar je na žalost imao fatalne posljedice.
Još jedna nesreća dogodila se prije nekoliko sati u okolici Brescie. Lavina koja se s planine Monte Maniva obrušila na grupu motornih sanjkaša, prema posljednjim informacijama s terena, odnijela je tri života. Osmero ljudi izvučeno je živo iz snijega, ali s ozljedama, a jednu osobu lječnici još uvijek pokušavaju reanimirati.
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Usled obilnih padavina cele ove zime, mnogo ljudi je poginulo od lavina tokom dosadašnje sezone. Džaba i airbag-ovi i lokatori, kad tresne lavina, teško se ostaje živ.
Zaključak: jbo ih freeride, heliskiing i slične aktivnosti na -za lavine- opasnim padinama.
<a href="http://www.corriere.it/cronache/08_gennaio...3ba99c667.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.corriere.it/cronache/08_gennaio...3ba99c667.shtml</a>
Tačno tako, na stazi se to ne može nikad dogoditi. A u svakom ski centru, na ski pasu, u brošurama je napisano da je zabranjeno skijati se van staza, a ko to radi, ide na sopstvenu odgovornost. Možda su ti spasioci bili potrebniji na nekom drugom mestu.
Edited by alberto.ascari, 14 January 2008 - 21:36.
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Posted 14 January 2008 - 21:12
I ove godine kod nas lavina nosi zivote. Uvijek ista stvar: glupiraju se gdje ne treba.
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Posted 16 January 2008 - 23:01
Mnogo ti je ovo lepo. Jesu li tvoje slike?
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Posted 16 January 2008 - 23:04
Mnogo ti je ovo lepo. Jesu li tvoje slike?
Yep. Nikon D50
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Posted 17 January 2008 - 21:38
nordijsko trčanje? 
Kad bi moglo svakodnevno... Rešio sam da za sledeću sezonu kupim i ovakve skije, te da iskoristim sva 3 dana godišnje koliko ih Beograd ima pod snegom. U Srbiji, na veliku moju žalost, veoma zapostavljen sport. Postoje samo 2 kluba (time i 2 mesta gde se može praktikovati dotični sport): Sjenica i Zlatibor. Na Kopaoniku postojalo čini mi se 20km uređenih staza staza, ali ih je stoka na motornim sankama upropastila.
Inače, pročitao sam da je u Srbiji skijaša, u smislu ciljne grupe turističkih agencija, negde između 100 i 150 hiljada. Malo, pa ne čudi i ovako mali broj cross country klubova.
Kad bi moglo svakodnevno... Rešio sam da za sledeću sezonu kupim i ovakve skije, te da iskoristim sva 3 dana godišnje koliko ih Beograd ima pod snegom. U Srbiji, na veliku moju žalost, veoma zapostavljen sport. Postoje samo 2 kluba (time i 2 mesta gde se može praktikovati dotični sport): Sjenica i Zlatibor. Na Kopaoniku postojalo čini mi se 20km uređenih staza staza, ali ih je stoka na motornim sankama upropastila.
Inače, pročitao sam da je u Srbiji skijaša, u smislu ciljne grupe turističkih agencija, negde između 100 i 150 hiljada. Malo, pa ne čudi i ovako mali broj cross country klubova.
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Posted 17 January 2008 - 22:35
Ybt pa ja bih iz mesta išao na cross country, eno ih skije i cipele leže u podrumu već 5 ili 6 godina. Ali nećemo još da idemo sa devojčicom, mala je za to (9god), da joj se ne smuči, bila bi velika šteta. Teško je to za klince, pogotovo kad bi uporedila sa alpskim skijanjem. Inače o terenima za skijaško trčanje i trkačima iz CZ ne treba puno trošiti reči.
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Posted 18 January 2008 - 08:20
Konacno da sam naisao na nekog ko takodje voli "cross country". 
Obicno ljudi reaguju negativno a da cesto prethodno nisu ni probali. Tacno je da je sport naporan, posebno "skate" tehnika koju i ja praktikujem, ali koji sport nije - ako nisi spreman.
Ja sam se, ima vec nekoliko godina, potpuno "presaltao" na "cross country". Svaki odlazak na takvo skijanje mi je kao jedno malo putovanje u daleki snijezni svijet. Ovdje u Kanadi su staze nevjerovatne i - gotovo nepregledne: na drugog skijasa naletis svakih 10-15 minuta. Nema one guzve i vriske, tipicne za alpsko skijanje. Sve je tako mirno...
P.S. Sorry topic starter, znam(o) da tema nije nordijsko skijanje, ali morali smo malo... Evo ga slika:
Obicno ljudi reaguju negativno a da cesto prethodno nisu ni probali. Tacno je da je sport naporan, posebno "skate" tehnika koju i ja praktikujem, ali koji sport nije - ako nisi spreman. Ja sam se, ima vec nekoliko godina, potpuno "presaltao" na "cross country". Svaki odlazak na takvo skijanje mi je kao jedno malo putovanje u daleki snijezni svijet. Ovdje u Kanadi su staze nevjerovatne i - gotovo nepregledne: na drugog skijasa naletis svakih 10-15 minuta. Nema one guzve i vriske, tipicne za alpsko skijanje. Sve je tako mirno...
P.S. Sorry topic starter, znam(o) da tema nije nordijsko skijanje, ali morali smo malo... Evo ga slika:
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