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Posted 22 March 2005 - 20:21

Ayurveda


The science of Ayurveda, like the science of Yoga, was inspired and developed by the great masters and seers of ancient India. The origin of Ayurveda and Yoga are common to play a highly complimentary role in spiritual evolution and the maintenance of physical well-being and vitality. Ayurveda is, perhaps, the oldest science of life, a system of diet, healing and health maintenance that is deeply spiritual in origin. Unlike traditional Western medicine, Ayurveda is not confined to healing of disease in a superficial treatment of symptoms. Instead, it evaluates the complete body mind of the individual.
Ayurveda sees medicine and diet as complementary rather than separate. No one can expect to retain vitality, recover from disease, or succeed in the practice of Yoga without the appropriate knowledge of the powerful effect diet has on physical health, mental clarity and spiritual progress.
Indeed, yogis place great emphasis on diet as an integral part of the successful practice of any spiritual discipline. Ayurveda addresses not only healing, but also prevention and maintenance of vitality, as crucial in the practice of Yoga. Ancient seers describe the human body and the body of the universe as composed of prana, the primal energy, vital for life and which manifests in the form of earth, water, fire, air and ether. Any imbalance of these elements in our body is experienced in illness, discomfort or pain. These elements are kept in harmony by a healthy body that consumes them through breath, food, vegetables, seeds, beans, herbs and roots as vital carriers and balancers for the energy of prana in the body. The power of these foods manifests only when they are used in proper combinations and in complete coordination with unique conditions of each individual. This is where the profound effects of Ayurvedic food reveal themselves.


( ako me pitate kakve ovo veze ima sa Prirodom i ekologijom :lol: well, necu vam odgovoriti)




Indian Weather Gods

Indra the Thunder God

Indra, the Thunder God, seated on his elephant, Airavata.
Indra occupies an important place in the pantheon of Indian gods. A central figure in Hindu mythology, Indra held the position of supreme ruler of the gods in the Vedic age. In fact, of all the gods, the most hymns in the Rig Veda (about 250) are dedicted to him. As supreme ruler, he was the god of thunder and storms as well as the leader of the Devas. According to the Aryan theory of the history of India, Indra was one of the gods of Vedism or Brahmanism, the religion of the Aryans - the nomadic people from the steppes of Central Asia, who entered northwest India around 1800 BC. The other gods worshipped by the Aryans were Agni, the Fire God and Surya, the Sun God.
Foremost among warriors, Indra was considered omnipotent, even among the gods! Among his many roles was that of being the defender of mankind and divinity against the forces of evil. Further, he had the power to revive dead warriors who perished on the battlefield. In Brahamanic times and later, Indra gradually lost his position of prominence. He was supplanted by Vishnu and Shiva as the most important of gods.
Indra is generally best known as the Thunder God or the Weather God. However, he displays aspects of a sun god as well as of a god of creation. He is also considered a fertility god, as, in Hindu mythology, he is the one who brought water to the earth. Indra is traditionally armed with a range of weapons, comprising his trademark lightning bolt, the Vajra, as well as a bow, a net and a hook in battle. When not in his chariot, Indra rides on his great white elephant, Airavata.
Physically, Indra is considered very powerful. Reddish in complexion, he is depicted with either two or four very long arms. The sky god Dyaus Pita and the earth goddess Prithivi are his parents. According to myth, he took birth from his mother's side, fully grown and fully armed. His wife is Indrani, and his attendants are called the Maruts. His sons are Jayanta, Midhusa, Nilambara, Rbhus, Rsabha, Sitragupta, Arjuna.
Indra's domain is Swarga, his heaven in the clouds that swirl around the peak Meru. This heaven moves anywhere at Indra's instructions. Indra and his wife Indrani rule over this heaven, where Apsaras and Gandharvas dance and entertain those ......


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Posted 22 March 2005 - 20:44

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Elle eut de Neptune un fils appelé Triton et plusieurs nymphes marines : elle fut aussi, dit-on, la mŹre des Cyclopes.
Le bruit de la mer, sa profondeur mystérieuse, sa puissance, la sévérité de Neptune qui ébranle le monde, quand avec son trident il soulŹve ses énormes rochers, inspirent ą l'humanité un sentiment de crainte plutôt que de sympathie et d'amour. Le dieu semblait s'en rendre compte, toutes les fois qu'il s'éprit soit d'une divinité, soit d'une simple mortelle.


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Posted 22 March 2005 - 20:54



LEGENDA

Prelepa Boginja Selena se svako vece kupala u Okeanu, potom je oblacila svetlucavu haljinu i svojim nebeskim blistavim kocijama putovala u ljubavnu posetu svome dragom Endimonu. Svemocni Zevs je Endimona kaznio i osudio na vecni san, a Selena ga je svake noci budila svojim neznim poljupcima. Njihovi ljubavni susreti trajali su samo nocu ili do jutarnjeg svitanja i zbog toga su mesecevi - Selenini zraci tako blistavi i ocaravajuci.




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Posted 22 March 2005 - 22:44

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Posted 22 March 2005 - 22:53

"The Spiral Dance - Nature at Work and Play"

Overall Winner of The RDS/Technology Ireland - Young Science Writers Competition, April 1994.

Published in Technology Ireland,© 1994 by Redmond Shouldice.
A common thread linking cosmology, natural sciences and certain aspects of technology - one which has inspired our ancestors to create designs to ornament and commemorate their most sacred beliefs - obeys the beautiful geometry of the spiral. This shape first aroused my curiosity a few years ago when I participated in a survey of neolithic standing stones near Athgreany, Co. Wicklow (1) on behalf of my grandmother, Helen O'Clery. Her purpose was to establish the 'solar calendar' possibility of this stone circle by photographing shadows cast at dawn and dusk, with reference to pilot stones, on the eight pre-Celtic feast days. During the course of these investigations we visited Newgrange to see the standing stones there, and I became fascinated by the spiral decorations on the kerb stone set at the entrance to the cairn. I was intrigued to read some time later in 'Technology Ireland' (2) that the remarkable triple spiral figure could have been the locus of shadows cast by some of the standing stones at equinoxes and solstices approximately five millennia ago.

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A more recent Irish discovery in the context of the spiral form happened in 1845 when Co. Offaly landowner William Parsons, the third Earl of Rosse, built a huge reflecting telescope known as 'The Leviathan of Parsonstown'. It contained in its 58ft. length a 72 inch speculum metal mirror weighing 4 tons which remained the largest in the world until the opening of the Mount Wilson 100 inch in 1917, (3). Using the Leviathan, Lord Rosse became the first to see that some of the cloudy objects known as nebulae - actually other galaxies - were spirals. His 1845 drawing (Fig 1-A) of the Crab Nebula, also known as the Whirlpool Galaxy (M.51), is a remarkably accurate version of this astronomic object (Fig 1-B); this has since been shown to contain the first supernova remnant, the first x-ray source and the first known site of a pulsar (4). The Hubble classification suggests that 30% of all known galaxies are in spiral form (60% elliptical), and it is thought (3) that only in the spirals is star formation still ongoing.
The ubiquitous spiral form is to be found in most aspects of accelerating organic growth, and a seminal study earlier this century by D'Arcy Wentworth Thompson gives a remarkable account (5) of this phenomenon - he quotes from Roman poet Pliny on molluscan shells as 'magna ludentis Naturae varietas', 'the vast variety of nature at play'.



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Fig. 2: (A) The Spiral of Archimedes (6); (B) The Equiangular (Logarithmic) Spiral.

The study gives a clear and concise mathematical description of the two main types of organic spirals i.e. the equable spiral, or spiral of Archimedes (Fig 2-A) and the equiangular or logarithmic spiral (Fig 2-B). The former may be roughly illustrated by the way a sailor coils a rope upon the deck, each whorl of the same breadth as its neighbour. This curve may be compared to a cylinder coiled up, with its radius vector increasing in arithmetical progression and having the formula R = a q,i.e. a constant times the whole angle through which it has revolved. In contrast, the whorls of the equiangular spiral continually increase in breadth in a steady and unchanging ratio; the length of the radius vector increases in geometrical progression as it sweeps through successive equal angles and the equation is R = aq , or q = k log R. The figure may be considered as a cone coiled upon itself, such as the coiled trunk of an elephant or chameleon's tail. The French philosopher Descartes established many properties of the curve, including the key concept of self-similarity i.e. that sectors cut off by successive radii, at equal vectorial angles, are similar to one another in every respect and that the figure may be conceived as growing continuously without ever changing its shape. A nice instance of the equiangular spiral (5) is the route which certain insects follow towards a candle (Fig 3-A) "owing to the structure of their compound eyes, the insects do not look straight ahead but make for a light which they see abeam, at a certain angle. As they continually adjust their path to this constant angle, a spiral pathway brings them to their destination at last". This influences organic growth in such structures as snail shells (Fig 3-B), the lovely shell of the cephalopod 'Nautilus pompilius' (Fig 3-C) and the swirling spiral of the cochlea in the human inner ear (Fig 3-D) which retain their form in spite of asymmetrical growth i.e. at one end only. Nail and claw, beak and tooth all grow in this way; the graceful curves of foraminiferal shells offer the least resistance to the wave motions that maintain them on the ocean floor, and the florets of sunflowers and tree bark also obey the spiral incremental growth pattern. The deadly 'sticky trap' spiral woven by a spider is a remarkable feat of construction and is described by Nobel Laureate Karl von Frisch (6) in fascinating detail. It is not surprising that the Swiss scientist Jacob Bernoulli called the equiangular spiral the 'spira mirabilis' and asked for it to be engraved on his tombstone.

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Fig. 3: The Equiangular Spiral in Nature - (A) An insect seeks the light; (B) The edible Snail ('Helix pomatia'); © The Cochlea in human inner ear; (A) Nautilus Pompilus.

Technological man has adapted the principles of spirality and vorticity in various ways such as:-
Spiral and spiral bevel gears (7) in which the cross-rubbing action of gear teeth for linking non-parallel shafts, such as in automobile oil pumps, distributor drives and rear axle gearing allows smoother and quieter power transmission at high speeds;
classical Greek designers adapted the logarithmic spiral (8) to Ionic capitals (Fig 4-A), while Celtic illuminations (1) mirrored the Newgrange triple spirals (Fig 4-B);

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Fig.4: The Ornamental Spiral - (A) 6th c. B.C. Ionic, Cyprus; (B) Book of Kells 9th c. A.D. - triples within triples.
Design of modern clover-leaf junctions (8) can be realised by transition spirals, which may be increased or reduced from a master figure, thus maintaining a constant change of curvature. (Figs 5-A and 5-B) This allows a smooth change of pace for vehicles and a constant and minimum centrifugal effect;

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Fig.5: Clover Leaf curves realised with spiral transitions.
Wings and fuselages of aircraft utilise spiral curves of smooth acceleration to find the most organic profile; studies of vortices in fluid dynamics which "serve as a paradigm to illustrate how patterns in nature become organised" (9), are of significant value to the meteorologist in understanding the genesis of tornados and Arctic hurricanes, and "may well be the key to understanding turbulence, one of the last frontiers in classical mechanics." An update of Jonathan Swift's verse about 'little fleas' seems appropriate (10):
"Big whorls have little whorls, Which feed on their velocity, And little whorls have lesser whorls, And so on to viscosity."
Not all technology is gastropod-friendly however (Fig 6) as the Hargreaves Snail can attest !



The concept of similitude which emerges as the central theme of D'Arcy Thompson's studies of biological structure and function incorporates not only the equiangular spiral, but also such scaling devices as 'the golden mean' and 'Fibonacci proportionality'. This approach cannot however adequately describe the full range of structural variability apparent in the lung and other organs (11). The Thompson assumption of biological processes as being continuous, homogeneous and regular does not accord with modern observations of most biological and physical systems which are discontinuous and irregular. Between 1950 and 1970 Benoit Mandelbrot (10) evolved a new type of mathematics "capable of describing and analysing the structural irregularity of the natural world, and coined the name fractals for the new geometric forms... Recently, fractals have found their most important use in describing the dynamic shapes associated with chaos theory". Fractals describe the peculiar geometry of irregular surfaces which look the same on all scales of length; the shapes derived include not only complex spirals but also wonderful forms such as snowflakes, seahorses, rabbits, stardust and the Mandelbrot sets known as 'gingerbread men'. The oscillating self-organising reactions in inorganic chemistry known as 'chemical clocks' (Fig 7-A) which are an 'excitable' aspect of dynamic chaos theory yield spiral waves (12) "which bear more than a passing resemblance to those formed in heart attacks, primitive slime moulds (Fig 7-B), waves of star formation in spiral galaxies and hurricanes". There is also an uncanny echo of the Newgrange spiral incisions (Fig 7-C) which had triggered my interest initially.



Fig.7: (A) Oscillating 'chemical clock' reaction; (B) Slime Mould Aggregation; © Incised Spirals at Newgrange.
There is a sad irony in the realisation that the logarithmic spiral, called by Bernoulli 'the curve of life', might also, literally, be in at the death. A recent report suggests that the onset of fibrillation as a prelude to cardiac arrest "is marked by a break in the stable spiral pattern of the heart muscle into a series of excitatory spirals that meander across the heart" (Fig 8). Fractal geometry is providing computer-generated models of these patterns (13) and preventive medicine could benefit; 'the curve of life' lives on !


References
1) “Athgreany Stone Circle - The Stones Of Time” - Helen O’Clery, publ. Morrison,
N.Y. 1990.

2) “New Data On Newgrange” - F. Prendergast, ‘Technology Ireland’, March 1991.

3) “Guinness Book Of Astronomy Facts and Feats” - ed. Patrick Moore, 1980.

4) “Illustrated Encyclopedia of Astronomy” - ed. John Man, Carl Sagan, publ.
Hamlyn 1989.

5) “On Growth and Form” - D’Arcy Wentworth Thompson, abr. J.T.Bonner, publ.
Cambridge Univ. Press 1961.

6) “Animal Architecture” - Karl von Frisch, publ. Hutchinson, London 1975.

7) “Kempe’s Engineering Yearbook” - London 1975.

8) “Form, Function and Design” - Paul Jacques Grillo, Dover Books, USA, 1963.

9) “Vortices and Vorticity in Fluid Dynamics” - Hans J. Lugt, ‘American Scientist’
Vol 73, March/April 1985.

10) “Does God Play Dice - The New Mathematics of Chaos” - Ian Stewart,
Penguin 1989.

11) “The Arrow of Time” - Peter Coveney and Roger Highfield, Flamingo Books,
Harper Collins, London 1990.

12) “Physiology in Fractal Dimensions” - West/Goldberger, ‘American scientist’
Vol 75, July/Aug. 1987.

13) “Spiral Heartbreak” - Mike May, ‘American Scientist’ Vol 81, May/June 1993.

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Posted 22 March 2005 - 23:55

wow sushi, ala ima da se uchi :lol:


"The North American Indians tell a story of how they once lived in a land far away to the west, a barren coast land where they were hungry and cold and did not know how to find food. Then a man appeared from the sea, rising every day out of the waters and coming quite close to shore, though he never actually touched the land. I He was a strange figure, like a man from the waist up but with two fish tails instead of legs and a face that might have been human yet was oddly like that of a porpoise. His long hair and beard were green. He would float on the surface of a the water, his fish tails clearly visible, and sing to the people.  He told them how beautiful was the land whence he had come, the land of the sea. He told them of the treasures that lay under the waves, and of the strange fish people, and of the lovely green light that shone in the deeper waters, and the people, knowing that those who disappeared under the water never returned to earth, were frightened. But then he told them that across the waters lay another land to which a he could guide them, a land where they could live and find food. The Indians hesitated. But eventually, since they were nearly starving in their own land, they decided to trust the -words of the fish-man. They built boats, gathered up their families and their few possessions, and followed in the wake of this strange green-haired creature who called to them. He led them east, straight across the sea to the land of which he had told them, and there they landed safely and there they founded a new tribe; it was thus that the Indians came from Asia to North America. The fish-man, or fish-god, as he may have been, then disappeared, still singing, and was never seen again."



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Rainbow Serpent Dreaming



Dreaming origins

Dreaming stories give meaning to human life. Aboriginal people attribute their origins and occupation of Australia to their ancestors and spirit beings of their particular family groups, distinct to a particular area of land. These stories translate theories of occupation to their close relationship with the land. This has often been expressed by Aboriginal people when describing the land as my Mother. It is believed by many Aboriginal people that the same spirits who created the land, sea, waterways and life in general are involved in the conception and birth of a child. Hence today a direct link to Ancestral Beings and live continues.

Australian story was first told by Aboriginal people. It was spoken, sung, danced, painted and carved. Some Dreaming stories explain the origins of human life on Earth. Often these have been called Creation stories as they are concerned with the creation of human beings and of life in general. Most Aboriginal people believe that they came from the land. Ancestral Beings who created the land, seas, waterways, people, flora and fauna are known by different names depending on the local language group. These Ancestral Beings should be regarded with respect as their actions provide the knowledge and understanding that guide rules for living; treating other people in a socially responsible manner, managing resources and ecologically sustainable environmental practice and religious and cultural ceremonies.

These Ancestral Beings are found in rock formations, animals, plant life, waterways and seas. A constant reminder of creation and the spirits of the Ancestors.

Most Aboriginal Dreaming or Creation stories show that Aboriginal people have always been in Australia and came from the land itself. Some researchers have suggested that Australia could have been the cradle of civilisation. This supports these Aboriginal dreaming stories. This belief has been supported by scientific evidence, as well as by many creation stories, of Aboriginal groups across Australia. The oldest human remains found here, in Lake Mungo, South Australia, are dated as almost 40000 years old.

In 1996 a new theory emerged to support the view that Australian Aborigines were the first people in the world. It describes the theory that migration of people to other countries was from Australia.


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Introduction to the Land

Recorded in the countryside around us, Aborigines can see all the evidence of the creative events of The Dreaming. Dreamtime stories which talk about the Ancestors and Creation of the land give significance to all aspects of the landscape. Aboriginal descendants of particular Ancestral Beings have a very special relationship with the features of the countryside associated with the Ancestor. Aborigines then are inseparably related to the land. The spiritual link between the person and his/her Ancestor through the land and animal species means that his/her link with a particular area of land cannot be taken away or transferred to somewhere else.





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Posted 23 March 2005 - 00:41

joj druze, sto je ovo dobro! :lol:


kako je jos dan vode.. Vodanoj, rusalke, vile i duhovi


Za vode su Sloveni vezivali razna demonska bica, zla i opaka. Vodanoj je boravio pokraj vodenica, gde je prolaznike stropoštavao u vodu da bi ih ucinio svojim slugama. I ostali vodeni duhovi nisu bili blagonakloni ljudima, a svi su zamisljani kao zastrasujuca bica, cesto sa kandzama, rogovima, repom i uzarenim ocima. Njima se pridruzuju i rusalke, u stvari utopljenice ili nekrstena deca, preobrazena u devojke sa dugom raspustenom zelenom kosom. Dok su kod severnih Rusa ruzne i nage, spremne da odvuku pod vodu svakog ko im se priblizi, rusalke koje nastanjuju Dnjepar i Dunav imaju zanosan izgled i svojom pesmom zacaravaju prolaznike. Posebno su opasne u nedelji rusalki (nedelja koja sledi posle Trojica), jer one tada izlaze iz vode, jure po poljima, penju se na drvece i igraju na proplancima. Njima su kod Juznih Slovena slicne vile, zanosne devojke sa raspustenom kosom i krilima, koje najcescee obitavaju pokraj kladenaca, jezera, ili po gorama i planinama



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Posted 23 March 2005 - 10:17

Juce je bio dan Vode, a vodonosha u mitologiji zodijaka - je Vodolija:)
evo je ovaj zodijacki znak dobio ime
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O nazivu sazvežđa Vodolija i odgovarajućeg zodijačkog znaka ima u starogrčkoj mitologiji dve legende. Po prvoj je sazvežđe Vodolije lik Ganimeda, sina kralja Troja. Ganimed je bio najlepši mladić među svim živima i Zevs ga je poželeo da mu bude peharnik na Olimpu. Priča se da je to samo bio Zevsu izgovor da pored sebe dovede svog ljubavnika Ganimeda. Time je naneta dvostruka uvreda njegovoj ženi Heri jer je i njenoj kćeri Hebi, koja je do tada posluživala bogove vodom i vinom, uzeta ta čast. Zevs se na to nije obazirao i postavio je Ganimeda među zvezde kao Vodoliju.

Druga legenda govori o tome kako je zlo vremenom sve više uzimalo maha među smrtnim ljudima na Zemlji. Da bi se uverio u to, Zevs se prerušio u prosjaka i sišao na Zemlju sa Olimpa. Otišao je na dvor kralja Likaona i zatražio prenoćište. Ovaj ga je odbio i uz to i ismejao, kada je on rekao ko je. Zevs ga za kaznu pretvori u vukodlaka, vrati se na Olimp i na Zemlju pusti pljusak koji se pretvorio u potop. Svi ljudi su se udavili osim Prometejevog sina Deukaliona i njegove žene Pire. Deukalion je sa svojim brodom otplovio da brda Parnasa, danas je tamo Sveta gora, i počeo da moli Zevsa da obnovi ljudski rod. Zevs je to i učinio. Na nebo je postavio sazvežđe Vodoliju da ljude podseća na veliki potop. Ova legenda je osnov za biblisko predanje o potopu, Noeu i njegovoj barci.

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The probable source for the subject was a Byzantine botanical text-book, 'Geoponica', in which it is related how Jupiter, wishing to immortalise the infant Hercules (whose mother was the mortal Alcmene), held him to the breasts of the sleeping Juno. The milk which spurted upwards formed the Milky Way, while some fell downwards giving rise to lilies.

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Posted 27 March 2005 - 20:53

Proslava tresjinog cveta - Japan SAKURA festival

  The Cherry Blossom Festival: Sakura Celebration
McClellan, Ann  
 


Lavishly illustrated and fact-filled, "The Cherry Blossom Festival: Sakura Celebration is an informative memento of one of the world's great festivals. From Tokyo to Washington DC these exuberant festivals celebrate the ethereal and glorious springtime blooming of the ancient cherry tree and its role today as an instrument of diplomacy, landscape enhancement and eternal sign of spring and romance. Highlights include the story of the trees' cultivation and significance in Japan for more than 1000 years, how they came to the U.S. and their importance as representatives of Japanese and American friendship, plus listings of important cherry tree collections and other significant viewing sites throughout the U.S. and Japan. Cherry blossoms are explored as symbols in Japanese art and artifacts, and in images of Japonism found in European and American art. Extensive illustrations complement the intriguing stories of how cherry trees came to be planted around the Tidal Basin in Washington, D.C., and of the development of the National Cherry Blossom Festival which honors the trees and their extraordinary beauty. The pivotal roles played by intrepid traveler and writer, Eliza Scidmore, and First Ladies Helen Taft and Lady Bird Johnson are included. The most significant of the more than 175 varieties of Japanese ornamental trees are featured, along with a discussion of Japanese garden design, and cultivation tips for home gardeners. "The Cherry Blossom Festival: Sakura Celebration is sure to enlighten and entertain everyone touched by the cherry blossoms' transcendent beauty and delighted by the festivals that honor them.



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Of the cherry varieties, there are popular ones: someiyoshino (a crossbreed, and the most numerous), yamazakura (mountain cherry), shidarezakura (weeping cherry), others include higananzakura, and kanzakura (an early bloomer). Come hanami season in the large cities, you will realize that there are few places that lack cherry trees. They line entire streets, and any park you go to should have some sort of cherry tree- at least one. Of course, people usually don't sit down on the curb to enjoy hanami. It must usually be in a park, temple, shrine, or down by a riverside.... The Cherry Blossom >>>>





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How many, many things
They bring to mind --
Cherry blossoms!




Le printemps passe.
Les oiseaux crient
Les yeux des poissons portent des larmes.



bonus za
ljubitelje haiku poezije >>>> istorija haiku >>>

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Posted 18 April 2005 - 11:48

Dreaming origins

hej bash sad chitam o religiji mardu aboridzina i the dreamtime powers
fascinira me strashno, mada nazhalost pisac utrpava stalno interpretacije, mesto da malo objektivnije... preprichava recimo

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Posted 19 April 2005 - 02:52

Evo ima ovde priča onako kako ih Aboridžini kazuju: DreamTime

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Posted 19 April 2005 - 06:26

:huh: indy, ovo je prekrasno, nemam komentara

mnogo hvala! :lol: