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#1 Larko

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Posted 19 February 2004 - 14:53

dakle evo topika o sajentologiji
podstaknuti nadahnutim izlaganjem predstavnika nase Najvece Partije i interesom koji je isto izazvalo na forumu politika, srdacno ste pozvani da na sajtu
http://www.scientology.org/
iscackate najpikantnije detalje


meni ovo zvuci tailor-made za sorosevsku kliku narkomana


These and other such effects drugs can cause are directly counter to a person’s spiritual betterment. Realizing this biochemical factor had to be addressed before any lasting spiritual gain could be made, L. Ron Hubbard developed the Purification Program procedure, a way for the individual to rid himself of toxic drug residuals and free himself of the harmful effects of drugs, repair the spiritual damage done as a result of past drug use and regain the joy of living.

Once free from the harmful effects of drugs, a person becomes certain of himself, unafraid to live life to the fullest and able to bring honesty and trust to relationships with others.


posle toga, verovatno, postuje na SC-u:)

#2 Larko

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Posted 19 February 2004 - 14:59

zatim koncept 'merchants of chaos' :lol:

A lot of people spend their whole lives as professional chaos merchants; they worry those around them to death. The percentage who do this may be as high as one out of four. For example, a housewife, operating as a merchant of chaos in her sphere of influence, thinks of her husband, “If I can just keep Henry worried enough, he will do what I tell him.” She operates on the idea that it is necessary to spread confusion and upset. But along with this goes a concern, “I wonder why Henry doesn’t get ahead?” Naturally, she is making him sick

#3 kinky kitten

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Posted 19 February 2004 - 18:59

Larko, super što si otvorio topic. Ja sam se nameračila večeras da učinim isto, kad budem imala malo više vremena, kao i materijala o temi, ali si me preduhitrio :lol:

Svašta o njima može da se pronađe na netu. Definitivno jesu zabranjeni u Nemačkoj, a u poslednje vreme se rapidno šire po istočnoj Evropi. Meni su posebno interesantni sajtovi bivših članova organizacije/sekte. Makar i delić od onoga što su rekli bio istinit, opet je freaky :lol:

Izvesna Charlotte L. Kates je bila član samo 6 meseci, ali je iskusila dosta za to kratko vreme... jedna od faza je i pristupanje tzv. Sea Org. potpisivanjem ugovora. Charlotte navodi i ono što sam ja već negde pročitala o zabrani uzimanja lekova...

"The Senior HAS and LC looked it over, and found nothing to "out-qual" me, but took me to the galley so we could speak privately about the listed items they were most interested in--not surprisingly, my former membership in the Communist Party, USA--and rather surprisingly to me, my thyroid medications, which I carried with me. I had been diagnosed with Graves' disease several years earlier; both my mother and grandmother had shared the same diagnosis in their own teen years, and was taking several medications. The two looked over the pill-bottles, and asked if they "affected the brain" at all; I answered no, they were only medications to control my overactive thyroid and slow my rapid heartbeat caused by the thyroid condition. However, due to their paranoia about "psych drugs," they looked them up in a Physician's Desk Reference before being consoled that they were not, indeed, "psych drugs." Nevertheless, both were still disturbed by the medication itself: they questioned me about my symptoms and the necessity for the drugs; when I mentioned "weight gain" as one of the symptoms of my condition when untreated, as well as "rapid heartbeat," I was assured that "exercise" would take care of those problems, and informed that auditing could cure my thyroid condition, and "advised" to stop the medication so that I would be "sessionable." It had apparently been decided by the Senior HAS and the LC, two people with no medical training, that what I needed was auditing, and perhaps a PTS handling, some vitamins and exercise, and I would be fine; they told me I did not need my medication, and I indeed stopped taking it that evening."

"I was routed back downstairs to read the SO "2D policies," and read of the prohibition on all sexual activity before marriage. As a long-time advocate of sexual freedom, the policy seemed outdated and restrictive, and I justified it by remembering that in the SO, all of my intention must be focused on Scientology. I failed to also notice that it seemed another purpose was to separate the individual from the rest of humanity; one's life was lived for Ron, and no other; and one's human feelings and desires suppressed, all in the interest of "the cause." I was asked if I had a boyfriend and quickly assured that I would get a new one in the Sea Org, and told that as a Sea Org member, I should be prepared to not bear children. I sat and absorbed; it was almost too much all at once for me, the routing too fast and the pressure too intense, but I said nothing and kept my worries to myself as I received my personality, IQ and aptitude tests yet again before being presented with the "Leadership Survey" and "Life History." The "Leadership Survey" is designed to gauge a Scientologist's level of mental slavery to "LRH;" it is an index of one's willingness to abnegate self and all others in the interest of Ron and his "Church." "

Posle opisuje kakvim se "aktivnostima" bave u organizaciji (robovanje), kako se izbavila iz cele priče itd.

Ovako se sa njima obračunavaju Nemci, ali ni SPC nije naivna :lol: :lol:

Pronašla sam još mnogo interesantnih podataka na raznim sajtovima, ali sad nemam vremena da ih sve postujem.

BTW jel' bi smeo neko da odradi njihov Free Personalitz Test? Živo me zanima o čemu se tu radi :lol:

#4 Sijajuci

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Posted 19 February 2004 - 19:12

Gospodin Ron Habard je bio genije, za ljudski um. Ali, posle njegove smrti, kada svaki iver tvrdi svoju verodostojnost, nebi preporucio nikome da se uclanjuje u Sajentolosku crkvu.

Ron je negde rekao:"Ako zelite da brzo zaradite milion dolara(sadasnjih, najmanje, pet)osnujte svoju crkvu"-i zaposlite idiote(bozanske lunatike)da rade za vas, u mojoj interpretaciji. :lol:


#5 Stranac

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Posted 19 February 2004 - 19:49

najmanje dva puta sedmicno sam zaticao brosure Sajentologa u mom postanskom sanducetu. Nekoliko puta sam namjeravao da ispunim prilozeni testa ali sam svaki put odustajo shvativsi da su pitanja tako postavljena da npr. sedmo i 156 pitanje su identici s tim da su drugacije forumulisani. Ipak jednog jutra uz puno kafe ispunio sam test i poslao, nekoliko dana kasnije je poceo teror...

#6 MaranAta

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Posted 19 February 2004 - 21:13

Мало истине о сајентолозима не би било на одмет:

Spain seeks dissolution of Scientology sect
Sect ordered to pay $300,000 to Victim
Scientology Sect Comes Under Fire in Germany
France puts Scientology sect on trial

итд...

Пажња !!! Тоталитарна и деструктивна секта !!! :lol:

Edited by MaranAta, 19 February 2004 - 21:20.


#7 kinky kitten

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Posted 20 February 2004 - 00:07

To Stranac

I? Kakva su pitanja u testu? Kog tipa?

#8 Bustin

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Posted 20 February 2004 - 01:20

Мало истине о сајентолозима не би било на одмет:

Spain seeks dissolution of Scientology sect
Sect ordered to pay $300,000 to Victim
Scientology Sect Comes Under Fire in Germany
France puts Scientology sect on trial

итд...

Пажња !!! Тоталитарна и деструктивна секта !!! :lol:

Ajd sad fino prevedi sa ovog stranog nam jezika!

#9 Sijajuci

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Posted 20 February 2004 - 13:56

---Habarad---

"Mind Clear: iz njegovih je aktivnosti vidljivo da zivi poletno i zadovoljno"
"Mind Clear ima zivo i tacno secanje, za svako od svojih cula."

"Psihosomatska bolest jeste, u stvari, predjasnja povreda."
"Engram

"Primarni zadatak terapije je osloboditi te jedinice zivotne sile a sporedni rasteretiti bol iz engrama."

"Svrha Dijaneticke terapije je osim da se osvesti svako zivotno razdoblje osobe kada je bila primorana na "nesvest" i postici optimalno funkcionisanje uma."

"Um je dobro izgradjen racunar i pruza razne usluge."

"Primena nauke je umece"

"Um zna kako um funkcionise"

"Reaktivni um je kao umisljena 'seoska budala' koji pazi dok hoda po jajima."


Ok, kakve ovo veze ima sa Sajentolozima i njihovom crkvom? Nikakve! Koliko ja mogu da vidim. Ali, poenta nije u tome, oni(mislim na danasnje sajentologe) ti time samo zamazuju oci, kako bi te navukli...naravno-kao i svi drugi koji ti prodaju "muda uz bubrege". Sad, ako je neko budala da...ja nemam nameru da mu otvaram oci. Ja nemam interesa u ljudskom bunilu.


#10 MaranAta

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Posted 20 February 2004 - 20:28

Још места где се открива право лице те тоталитарне и деструктивне СЕКТЕ:

Scientology's Censorship and Spamming Projects
Scientology's Hate and Harassment Practices
Scientology is not recognized by Austria

Чувајте се децо... :lol:

Edited by MaranAta, 20 February 2004 - 20:28.


#11 Stranac

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Posted 22 February 2004 - 02:24

To Stranac

I? Kakva su pitanja u testu? Kog tipa?

Pitanja se odnose na svakodnevni zivot, npr.
Prvo pitanje je:
Kako reagujete ako vas neko uvrijedi zbog vaseg izgleda?
a onda nakon sedamdeset pitanja dobijes pitanje
Smeta li vam ako neko vas neko ismije jer imate isturene sjekutice?
Mozda nisam bas najsrecnije izabrao primjere ali se nadam da si shvatila.

Par dana nako slanja testa, kao sto rekoh otpoceo je teror telefonom. Njih se stvarno tesko rijesti. Kako sam po prirodi znatizeljan otisao sam u njihovu crkvu ovdje u Cirihu. Mislim, iako to oni nazivaju crkvom to nema veze sa ckrvom niti izgledom niti sadrzajem. Dva debela sata sam razgovarao sa jednim od njihovih "svestenika" koji se uporno trudio da mi proda njihovu leteraturu i seminare na kojima bih ucio kako da postanem ovca "poznajem nesrecnicu koja je godinam trecinu plate davla za uvijek nove seminrae i novu litaraturu".
Kako se tesko odvajam od novca i nisam nista htio da kupim dasa mi je onda poklonio gomilu knjiga pozvao me na predavanje koje su odrazavali a odnosilo se na zloupotrebu psihijatrije. Oni ne negiraju teoriju zavjere vec zavjeru pripisuju psihijatrima..... bar tako je zvucao taj "svestenik" a i na predavanje koje sam odslusao izmedju redova je to receno....
Stalo isticu Travoltu i Kruza koji su kao uspjeli samo zahvaljujuci tome sto su uz pomoc njihove crkve dosli do istine....

#12 mango

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Posted 22 February 2004 - 07:03

jeste. travolta i kruz im sad uplacuju debele milione.

ne volim sekte bre. ne volim ni crkve u kojima okolo kruzi tanjir, usred bogosluzenja, za "dobrovoljne" priloge.

ima li neko mesto gde covek moze da ode da se utesi a da mu to ne naplate?

#13 Stranac

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Posted 22 February 2004 - 15:34

Svi naplacuju ali svako na svoj nacin. Oni koji su vec dovoljno "stekli" cine to malo finije, dok ovi koji tek sticu grabe i rukama i nogama....

Nema takvog mjesta Mango, sve se placa na ovaj ili onaj nacin.

#14 mango

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Posted 22 February 2004 - 19:06

znam. ali eto, onda ni sekte nisu razlicite od vec "formiranih" crkvi. sekte naprosto jos uvek deluju u fazi "prvobitne akumulacije kapitala. "

stoga, vencacu se u opstini.

#15 Stranac

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Posted 22 February 2004 - 20:09

Hriscanstvo je jednom bila sekta, mozda i judaizam nije nista drugo do sekta, jer za nije jedan Faraon u Egiptu bio oveo monoteizam?
Samo se ti drzi opstine, pametnije i jeftinije