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#91 4_Webber

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Posted 27 December 2017 - 18:03

Alonso humiliated early in 2017 Formula 1 season by Honda troubles

Fernando Alonso felt humiliated at the start of the 2017 Formula 1 season when he realised Honda had gone backwards over the winter, according to McLaren racing director Eric Boullier.

After its abject first season back with Honda in 2015, McLaren improved from ninth to sixth in the '16 constructors' championship and hopes of further progress this year were high.

 

But Honda's new engine concept proved a retrograde step in both performance and reliability terms.

Boullier admitted that realisation hit Alonso hard.

"As a competitor, he is making his mental preparation over the winter," he told Autosport.

"And he is drawing in his head how the season should be, and that even motivates him more because he tries to stick to his own goals.

"So turning up in Barcelona, and having been backwards in terms of engine performance, it is a mix of sadness, humiliation and frustration. It is not good."

 

Alonso famously admitted that he punched a hole in the wall of his room in McLaren's facility when he was taken out of the Singapore Grand Prix at the first corner of what looked set to be his most competitive race of the season.

"Sometime he has to express his frustration, but he has been like in the past even winning races," Boullier said of the Singapore incident.

"He is so tense after a race. It was the same [in Singapore].

"He has this rage inside him that he knows he can do better. He knows he can be the best. And he needs to show it.

"And I think if he wins he will also punch a wall."

 

Boullier believes Alonso will raise his game even further if McLaren can become a frontrunner again, as it hopes to with Renault power in 2018.

"I always compare him to a shark. When he can sense the blood, he goes straight there," said Boullier.

"And that is why if he feels he can be on the podium or competitive enough to be there, he will not give up one inch to anybody

"So the pressure on the team will be there but it is a good pressure."


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#92 4_Webber

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 18:59

Zelja za 2018. - jedna pobeda za Meklaren, makar i "azerbejdzanska" :)


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#93 /13/Ален Шмит/

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 20:53

Alonso je životinja željna dokazivanja i pobeđivanja, Honda mu je oduzela sve što ga čini tom životinjom a Alonso je od te gladi postao gora životinja nego što jeste. Ove godine po prvi put osećam veliku nadu i mislim da će kapnuti par podijuma. Makar samo jedan podijum bi me toliko obradovao da bi "udario zid pesnicom" (ovaj put od sreće).

 

Rekao sam milion puta, Prodromouve čarolije s kompetetivnom PJ su pobednička kombinacija.


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#94 Arnold Schwarzenegger

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 14:31

Ako ce RB ciljati na titulu McLaren mora ciljati makar na pobede.


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#95 4_Webber

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 11:18

Kastrol vise nije sponzor Meklarena. Pretpostavljam samim tim ni snabdevac uljem. Sta li se desava? Brine me ovo. Druga dva tima koja koriste Renoov motor koriste Kastrol ulje.


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#96 Arnold Schwarzenegger

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 12:06

RB koristi mobil1.


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#97 4_Webber

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 12:43

U pravu si. Moja greska. Potpuno sam zaboravio da su nam posle Tag Hojera oteli i Mobil 1.

 

Ali svejedno mi se ne svidja sto trecu godinu uzastopno menjaju snabdevaca.


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#98 Arnold Schwarzenegger

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 15:22

Negde sam citao da ustvari Renaultovi motori rade najbolje sa Totalom a da ovi ostali Castrol, Mobil1 samo placaju reklamu.


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Posted 03 January 2018 - 17:50

Novi logo ekipe!

 

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 14:38

Renault to be more "draconian" in engine quality control

 

Renault will focus on strict quality control of parts for its 2018 Formula 1 engine, as it bids to fix the unreliability that blighted its 2017 campaign.

Renault-powered teams collected 320 engine-related grid penalties in 2017, with Red Bull boss Christian Horner describing his team's reliability as its worst since 2006, while Toro Rosso publicly fell out with Renault over persistent engine problems.

The Renault works team calculated it lost 45 points and fifth place in the constructors' championship to unreliability of its own, but team boss Cyril Abiteboul said retaining the same engine architecture for 2018 while being "much more draconian" when signing off new parts would address the problems.

"There is much more stability, in the sense the engine is much more similar next year to what it was last year versus the previous year," Abiteboul told Motorsport.com.

"We are changing only the parts that will make a difference to the performance, whereas last year pretty much everything – internal combustion engine and hybrid – was new.

"We're also changing our internal procedure on sign-off, and making sure to be much more draconian in the way we are dealing with project milestones and sign-off of any new part.

"I'm very confident what we are doing on the dyno is very representative and will provide a product that is much more mature as soon as the winter tests [start]."

 

Abiteboul said Renault conducted an "in-depth review" of its engine department, but decided procedural changes would be enough to improve reliability without restructuring again.

 

 

New engine limits could boost qualifying performance

Red Bull also complained about lacking so-called 'magic modes' needed to consistently fight Mercedes and Ferrari in qualifying, which Renault said it was working on for 2018.

Abiteboul said Renault's performance in the 2017 Abu Dhabi finale, where Nico Hulkenberg nullified a five-second pitstop penalty during a battle with Sergio Perez's Force India, showed Renault is getting better at extracting performance from its engine.

He also said new limits for 2018, which will restrict each driver to three engines for 21 races, will force all manufacturers to prioritise reliability, which would make qualifying modes less potent.

"The pace in Abu Dhabi has shown we are much better in trying to assess the best compromise between performance and reliability," Abiteboul added.

"There is more to come for next year – even though we know also the regulations will make it more difficult to have purely qualifying modes.

"You will need to have only three engines per driver next season, so that's something also to take into account, because the qualifying mode is the combination between tricks maybe like oil burn - which will become much more restricted - but also the fact that you are damaging the engine.

"I'm expecting most manufacturers to be much more conservative in the way they operate the engine, but we are also looking at our own ways to extract more performance on a limited number of laps."


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#101 Rad-oh-yeah?

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 16:49

Ma bice sve OK, samo da smo se mi ratosiljali onih pajaca...


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 16:55

Inace:
 

McLaren isn’t ruling out the possibility of building its own Formula One engines in future, according to chief operating officer Jonathan Neale.

The team has switched to Renault power units for the 2018 F1 season following an unsuccessful three-year alliance with Honda. However Neale told F1 Fanatic the discussions around the post-2020 formula may have a bearing on its long-term engine plans.

“In Formula One McLaren hasn’t historically done its own engine,” said Neale. “We’ve just signed a deal with Renault. The regulations are all changing, and only 50 per cent of the map has been released so far, so we don’t know the [exact] direction of travel.”

“But the commerciality of it for us? At the moment it’s not clear. You’ve got big teams like Mercedes who are spending a significant amount of money with a large organisation and an embedded infrastructure right now. If you’re selling – Ferrari make 35,000 engines a year for Maserati or something, as well as their own, 8,000 – but when you get to those kind of volumes, when you look at the kind of returns on sales that you get, we’re still a niche manufacturer, even though we’re making the thick end of 4,000 cars a year.”

“And we have a Formula One programme. We’re still not scaled, we’re not a scale manufacturer yet. But we are keeping an open mind, and look at this next phase of where is Formula One going and is there a chance to use our capital more wisely. But we don’t have any immediate plans to do anything other than getting ourselves back into health by working well with Renault.”

Neale remains convinced that having a works engine contract with a manufacturer is the ideal arrangement the current rules.

“I’d go back to what Ron [Dennis] said. Ron is on record saying the right model under the current rules in Formula One for a team is to be a works-engined team, because you’ve got the strength and the power and the muscle of an OEM that has a strong marketing budget, and you have access to deep technology and capital investment, and then you can have the agility of a team to keep that thing nimble and keep it in a motorsport mindset.”

“I still believe that’s true and that’s the ideal situation. The last few years haven’t delivered that for us and we needed a break-out strategy so we can repair our business. So we’ll see. Ask me that at the end of [this] year.”


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Posted 12 January 2018 - 13:58

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Interesting snippet: Ron Dennis is hosting a farewell/thank you party tonight at the Royal Albert Hall. Invitees: everyone he ever worked with at McLaren, plus sundry other senior figures. The entertainment? A bespoke Cirque du Soleil performance. Paying for it? Ron Dennis


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Posted 12 January 2018 - 19:51

McLaren's chassis would have seen it delivering performance close to Red Bull's level if it had been running a Renault power unit last season, according to Zak Brown.

2018 will see McLaren switching to the French power unit supplier after ending its deal with Honda following three years of struggle. Under new aerodynamic regulations, McLaren was pleased with its development rate last season but finished ninth in the constructors' championship as it was also hurt by reliability issues on top of its power unit performance deficit.

Ahead of the new partnership, Brown admits McLaren has run simulations to see how it would have fared in 2017 with the Renault power unit and says the results suggest it would have been challenging at the front.

"You can quite easily look with GPS, and all the teams can do the same thing," Brown told RACER during an exclusive interview. "In 2017 – because next season nobody knows – if we had the Renault power plant in there we would have been there or thereabouts with Red Bull. Some races ahead of them, some races behind them, but we would have been around there."

However, despite Red Bull winning three races last season, Brown acknowledges the performance is only an estimate because the car itself could react differently at higher speeds compared to how it worked under Honda power.

"You ultimately don't know what the car will do when it speeds up. You can have a general idea, but we're not working our aero as hard coming into Turn 1 because we're not coming in at the same top speed, so we know if we would have had X more top speed but that's all by the engine, and then you don't know exactly what you'd have done under braking and turn-in because you'd have been working the downforce differently."


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 00:54

INSIGHT: Is McLaren ready to win?
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'All things being equal' is a term rarely used in Formula 1. The sport is, by its very nature, unequal. Only a maximum of two drivers have the same machinery, and even then set-ups can differ. But sometimes, the sport is less equal than others.

As the exclusive Honda partner for the past three years, McLaren has been very much in its own boat. With no other Honda-powered team against which to benchmark itself, McLaren has been a unique case that – at the start of 2015 at least – seemingly had the potential to rise to the front of the grid, or flounder at the back.

More often than not, it was the latter. Honda struggled for both performance and reliability, and the relationship eventually broke down in its third year; the starting point with a new power unit concept was deemed too low.

The switch to Renault power for this season onwards has been hailed as a watershed moment for the team. But as I've previously written, it's a move that leaves McLaren nowhere to hide. With Red Bull and Renault as its most direct competitors, the true standing of the team will be laid bare in 2018.

So, is this a team that has recovered from its 2013 decline and just hasn't been able to show it? Or is McLaren facing a similar fate to Williams after such a long spell away from the front?

"I think our people are our biggest strength," McLaren's executive director Zak Brown tells RACER. "We're still a world champion team. Even though we haven't had those on-track successes here for a while, the people here are perfectly capable of winning and winning championships.

"I think people might not see how badly we want success; how hungry we are. It's been humbling, which is maybe not a word that you would have associated McLaren with over the years.

"So we're hungry, we want to earn it, we want to race hard and I think those are things that you can feel when you're in the building when you go and walk the factory floor, and maybe it doesn't come across on television where these guys are at. We're ready."

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As late-morning winter light floods Brown's office in the McLaren Technology Center, the words "we're ready" close off a number of answers during our interview. There's an eagerness to go grand prix racing again, even before the Californian has had time to tackle Daytona with his United Autosports team featuring Fernando Alonso and Lando Norris.

The reason for that impatience comes from McLaren's knowledge of where it would have been with a Renault power unit last year, which impacts on 2018 expectations.

"You can quite easily look with GPS, and all the teams can do the same thing," Brown says. "In 2017 – because next season nobody knows – if we had the Renault powerplant in there we would have been there or thereabouts with Red Bull. Some races ahead of them, some races behind them, but we would have been around there.

"You ultimately don't know what the car will do when it speeds up. You can have a general idea, but we're not working our aero as hard coming into Turn 1 because we're not coming in at the same top speed, so we know if we would have had X more top speed but that's all by the engine, and then you don't know exactly what you'd have done under braking and turn-in because you'd have been working the downforce differently."

Asked what that does for the goals that he's set the team for 2018, Brown says: "It gets us excited!

"We want to be on the podium. We think – this isn't a prediction, this is a desire – we think we're going to be on the podium this year. And we'd like to think we can get on the top step, but it gets pretty tight at the top of the field there.

"It's not great for Formula 1 when Force India is fourth in the championship and didn't even get on the podium. So you kind of have to be a top three team to get on the podium, and then all of the top three had a chance to get on the top step. We like our opportunity, but we don't think it's going to be easy and it's not a foregone conclusion."

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While Brown has obvious enthusiasm that stems from his relatively recent arrival at McLaren, racing director Eric Boullier has been a part of the struggle since moving from a similarly declining Lotus at the start of 2014. Despite only overseeing one race where a McLaren driver has stood on the podium in that time, the Frenchman has no doubts as to the team's readiness to win again.

"It is in the mindset," Boullier says. "You rebuild the team, and lots of people have been used to winning in the past with different organizations. So that's the kind of motivation and adjustment if you want for the company which will be very easy to do.

"They are all competitive, they are all racers and when you have to go to fight for wins you obviously need to be prepared in terms of mindset, set-up, pressure, pitstops... we've worked on all of this.

"For example, we parked pitstops for some time because it wasn't a priority in our position, but if you look at the race in Brazil last year, the fastest team was us. So little by little we are rebuilding everything, under the radar, just to be ready."

While 2017 was a development race under new regulations, McLaren was still rarely able to compare its progress against other teams. But Boullier is confident his outfit was a match for the top three when it came to improving its car during the season.

"We were definitely one of the best because we caught up," he says. "The change of regulations helped us to close down a little bit quicker, but I'm pleased with the way we work on the car and develop the car these days at McLaren.

"We changed the whole system and we introduced what we believe is the lightest and most flexible system where we can bring parts every weekend. And the correlation has been great, which is good."

Therein lies the mystique of McLaren right now. Improvement was clear last season as the team regularly scored points at the end of the year, but simultaneous strides by Honda makes it difficult to pin down who should get the bulk of the credit.

Brown himself insists the majority of the progress came from the chassis. And while he still sees weaknesses within McLaren, the executive director can't pick out an area – Boullier's reference to pitstops aside – that could scupper hopes of fighting with Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull in 2018.

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"We need more sponsors, and I've got a target on my back for that, given my background," Brown admits. "Our pitstops are something we have identified. We weren't strong on pitstops last year if you look at where we were. There's no reason we can't be the best. Williams wasn't the fastest race car but I think they're the second-best team on pitstops, so we've got to address that. And then, everybody just working as a team.

"Probably the areas we need to work on are less grand prix related and are more big organization collaboration between automotive, racing and technology, because they had some similar shareholders, but different shareholders. We're now one company, so I think the areas where there's room for improvement is collaboration between the entities, but that's not something I think fans are going to see on TV."

The self-confidence within McLaren is almost infectious, but this is a team that has been the master of its own downfall since it last won a race in 2012, initially developing its car poorly and then not continuing a partnership with the dominant power unit supplier in Mercedes. Much has changed in that time – most notably the departure of Ron Dennis after a power struggle at the top – and the most recent changes have substantially raised expectations.

"I think we need to take it one step at a time," Brown says of the recovery effort. "If we end the year with a handful of podiums – regardless of what step that is – that's good progress. We need to get back to the front of the field.

"Obviously we want to win just like everybody else, but we're not going to set goals that potentially you can fall short of. So I think our goal is, let's get on the podium, and whether it's for second or third, we'll see.

"We're hungry. It's great when you talk to Eric and the team and you go 'Do you need anything?' and they say 'Nope, we're good'. So everyone's ready. Everyone's ready."

Brown's excitement is obvious, and he's clearly fighting to contain it before the true picture is seen on track this year. There really will be no hiding place, but that's just how McLaren wants it.


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