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#136 Ripper

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 15:45

Max nije kriv. Kime ide u desno.

 

Pa sto onda Kimi ide u desno a krivine nigdje ni blizu?

 

Dzoni moraces jos koji put reprizu da pogledas. :rolleyes:

 

Konjici na 4umu od crvenila nista objektivno ne vide.

 

Zato je uvek lepo kada postoje neutralni posmatraci pa dobijemo ovakvu nadasve objektivnu analizu celokupne situacije.


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#137 Supercuber

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 15:50

Pogledaj onboard snimak iz Maxovog bolida.

Kimijeva jedina greška je što je imao mega start.

I da je Max sklonio nogu sa gasa, Vettel bi ga (Kimija) pokupio već sledećeg momenta.

Momenat udara.

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Edited by Supercuber, 17 September 2017 - 15:52.

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#138 Doorn

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 16:16


Max nije kriv. Kime ide u desno.


 


Pa sto onda Kimi ide u desno a krivine nigdje ni blizu?


 


Dzoni moraces jos koji put reprizu da pogledas. :rolleyes:


 


Konjici na 4umu od crvenila nista objektivno ne vide.


 
Zato je uvek lepo kada postoje neutralni posmatraci pa dobijemo ovakvu nadasve objektivnu analizu celokupne situacije.

Vjerujem da piskaras iz kladionice.
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#139 Ripper

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 16:29

Jok, ne verujem u laku lovu.
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#140 /13/Ален Шмит/

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 17:15

Mark Veber o hororu prvog kruga

 

 

 

Mark on Vettel's spatial awareness: "I think sometimes he forgets that where the back of his helmet is is not where the back of his car is"

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Malo statistike, da me smiri od ove nesreće od trke koju je Alonso mogao završiti na podijumu..

 

- Ovo je prva ikad noćna kišna trka

- Ferarijevo duplo odustajanje u prvom krugu je prvo tako u istoriji F1, samo jednom se desilo da Ferari nije preživeo prvi krug a to je bilo a VN Španije u Harami kada je Iks kao jedini Ferarijev vozač odustao u prvom krugu. Poslednji put kad su tako malo krugova odvezli bilo je za VN Holandije u Zandvortu 1981 kad je Žil Vilnev odustao u prvom krugu a Pironi par krugova kasnije. Najgore pozicije Ferari je osvojio na VN Francuske (19 i 22) 1996 dok su ovde "završili" kao 18 i 20

- Fetelovo prvo odustajanje s pol pozicije još od VN Evrope 2012

- Prvo odustajanje osvajača pol pozicije još od VN Malezije prošle godine

- Sajnc je završio četvrti, njegov najbolji rezultat u karijeri

- Hulkenberg je oborio Zutilov rekord što se tiče broja trka bez podijuma (129 v. 128 nastupa)

- Ovo je Hamiltonova jubilarna 60 pobeda

- Od kako je Rikjardo došao u RB, penjao se svaki put na podijum u Marini Bej

- Ovo je Hamiltonu sada treća uzastopna pobeda u 2017 sezoni

- Palmer osvojio prve bodove u sezoni (ironija)


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#141 Rad-oh-yeah?

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 17:25

Gotovo, trkacki incident kao sto sam i pretpostavljao da ce biti presudjeno:
 

The FIA has opted to take no further action following the Singapore Grand Prix opening-lap collision between Sebastian Vettel, Kimi Raikkonen and Max Verstappen.

The two Ferraris and the Red Bull driver were going three-wide for the lead of the race on the approach to Turn 1 when Verstappen was squeezed in the middle, eventually making contact with Raikkonen on his left.

The Finn spun into Vettel, and then collected Verstappen and the McLaren of Fernando Alonso at the first corner.

Vettel, meanwhile, maintained the lead but his car had sustained significant damage and he crashed out of the race moments later.

Neither Ferrari driver assigned blame for the incident in post-race interviews, while the team tweeted that Verstappen "took Kimi out", but Verstappen believed Vettel was at fault.

However, after a post-race investigation, the FIA stewards announced none of the three drivers involved would be penalised, as nobody was "wholly or predominantly to blame for the incident".

A statement read: "The stewards examined video evidence and heard from Sebastian Vettel, the driver of car 5, Kimi Raikkonen, the driver of car 7, Max Verstappen, the driver of car 33 and the team representatives.

"Driver of car 7 had a very good start and was able to attempt overtaking on car 33 on the left-hand side.

"At the same time, car 5, which had a slower start, moved to the left-hand side of the track; car 33 and car 7 then collided resulting in a chain collision with car 5 and, ultimately, car 14 (Fernando Alonso) at the next turn.

"The stewards consider that no driver was found to have been wholly or predominantly to blame for the incident and will therefore take no further action."

Explaining its original tweet, Ferrari added on its social media channel: "What we tweeted was a factual description of events. No need to speculate on this."


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#142 Rad-oh-yeah?

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 17:28

- Ferarijevo duplo odustajanje u prvom krugu je prvo tako u istoriji F1, samo jednom se desilo da Ferari nije preživeo prvi krug a to je bilo a VN Španije u Harami kada je Iks kao jedini Ferarijev vozač odustao u prvom krugu.

 


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#143 /13/Ален Шмит/

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 20:12

Andrew Benson Retweeted Fernando Alonso

The frustration is palpable. Someone at McLaren tells me there is now a fist-sized hole in the wall of Alonso's driver room...

 

Ako je iko gladan podijuma to je Alonso. Kakva nesrećna trka jbt..


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#144 Rad-oh-yeah?

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 16:27

The Italian press has lashed out at Ferrari and Sebastian Vettel after a disastrous Singapore grand prix.

The Italian team and boss Maurizio Arrivabene blamed Max Verstappen for the first corner crash that wiped out both Ferraris on Sunday.

As a result, Vettel's points deficit to Lewis Hamilton blew out to 28 points.

The partisan Italian press knows where to look for blame.

"Ferrari did everything wrong," declared La Gazzetta dello Sport.

"The red cars destroyed themselves in a way that even the best horror movie director could not imagine."

The front page of Corriere dello Sport declared: "No, Vettel! Not like that!

"The first 300 metres in Singapore was one of the most catastrophic events for Ferrari in the last decade."

Tuttosport added: "A catastrophic accident drowns Maranello's world title hopes. In a few seconds an entire season is destroyed."

And La Stampa said: "Hamilton can now walk to the world title."


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#145 alberto.ascari

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 16:58

 

The Italian press has lashed out at Ferrari and Sebastian Vettel after a disastrous Singapore grand prix.

The Italian team and boss Maurizio Arrivabene blamed Max Verstappen for the first corner crash that wiped out both Ferraris on Sunday.

As a result, Vettel's points deficit to Lewis Hamilton blew out to 28 points.

The partisan Italian press knows where to look for blame.

"Ferrari did everything wrong," declared La Gazzetta dello Sport.

"The red cars destroyed themselves in a way that even the best horror movie director could not imagine."

The front page of Corriere dello Sport declared: "No, Vettel! Not like that!

"The first 300 metres in Singapore was one of the most catastrophic events for Ferrari in the last decade."

Tuttosport added: "A catastrophic accident drowns Maranello's world title hopes. In a few seconds an entire season is destroyed."

And La Stampa said: "Hamilton can now walk to the world title."

 

 

 

Teško mi se ovo čita, ali nemam jedinu reč da dodam.

 

Titula je sada na nivou SciFi. Ne znam kakva čuda bi trebalo da se dese, da izgori božana na tri trke koje bi uzeo Vettel, inače, dogodine ponovo i bolje ovog puta.


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#146 /13/Ален Шмит/

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 17:00

Lažu, ovo je bukvalno najveća katastrofa ikada. Nešto u maniru Mercedesove Španije 2016. ali s dodatom težinom. Gore je od onih udesa Alonsa u Japanu i Belgije 2012 i zajeba strategije na Jabadabadujiju 2010 te cepanja creva za gorivo na Singapuru 2008. Jeste li svesni da smo svedočili najvećoj gluposti Ferarija bukvalno u istoriji F1, mrzim Ferari ali u Singapuru mi ih je toliko bilo žao a što je najgore niko ne snosi krivicu za udes i deklarisan je kao trkački incident. 

 

Možda su se Ferarijevci na brifingu dogovorili da ograniče Ferštapenov napad što više moguće, na startu je to prolazilo sve u redu dok se Rajkonen nije pojavio. Kimi je opet pokazao neočekivanu brzinu tamo gde uopšte nije trebao. Zato ja godinama trubim da Ferariju očajnički treba dobri No2 vozač, lepo kažeš No2 vozaču da ne rizikuje previše na startu a Fetel uradi Ferštapenu ono što Je Alonso uradio njemu 2010 godine na istom mestu ▼

 

 

VN Singapura 2017 će ostati upamćena po najvećoj Ferarijevoj katastrofi i kao prva ikad noćna kiša trka. Onaj osećaj u meni koji me nikada nije izdao (neko moje šesto čulo, predvideo sam udese Alonsa na VN Belgije 2012 i Australije 2016 putem uznemirujućih vizija u snu) je predosećao veliku katastrofu na startu što se i desilo.


Edited by /13/Ален Шмит/, 19 September 2017 - 17:02.

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#147 alberto.ascari

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 17:03

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#148 Rad-oh-yeah?

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 17:47

...a što je najgore niko ne snosi krivicu za udes i deklarisan je kao trkački incident.

 

A kako drugacije, jedini koga su tu imali rasta da kazne bio je Fetel, a ako bi mu uz svu bedu koju je sebi natovatio na vrat svojim manevrom na startu zalepili jos i kaznu mogli bi odmah u paketu i Hamiltonu da daju pehar sampiona.

 

(Ono, mogu to i sada, ali ovako barem imamo privid neizvesnosti sampionata jos neko vreme.)

 

Tragedija je u tome sto je prvi put nakon mnogo godina Ferari proizveo masinu koja moze realisticno da se bori za titulu, a izgubice je zbog kratkog spoja u Fetelovom mozgu.


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#149 /13/Ален Шмит/

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 18:01

Fetel nije video Kimija, isti scenario bi zadesio Alonsa u Singapuru 2010 da je na primer Masa bio s unutrašnje strane...


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#150 /13/Ален Шмит/

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 18:05

Hiperanaliza trke

 

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Stanja na tabelama

 

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