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#601 /13/Ален Шмит/

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Posted 10 July 2017 - 14:13

EDIT: ili nas je samo Mercedes oterao u qrac?

 

 

To sad ispada vrlo loše po nas, u ovom trenutku Ilijen je naša jedina nada.


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#602 Arnold Schwarzenegger

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Posted 10 July 2017 - 15:36

Mislim da je McLaren shvatio da je bolje biti strpljiv sa Hondom nego oterati Hondu zauvek i postati customer ekipa poput Vilijamsa i nikad vise neimati sanse za titulu. A Honda mora proraditi i proradice ako nista onda sigurno sa uvodjenjem novih motora 2020 koji ce biti jednostavniji.


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Posted 10 July 2017 - 17:08

'su to legle neke pare ili sta?
 

 

 

EDIT: ili nas je samo Mercedes oterao u qrac?

 

 

 

Vjerovatno su skontali da ni Mcl ni Hondi nije u interesu (finansisjkom) da sada raskidaju.

 

Vlasnici trebaju da isplate Ronu pozamasnu svotu, Honda je nesto napredovala, Merc i nije toliko zainteresovan...sve te kombinacije vode ka tome da je moguce da su dodali neki anex ugovora na jos jednu godinu, pa onda da vide...


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Posted 11 July 2017 - 13:30

 

 

Gazzetta is reporting that McLaren have submitted a request to Ferrari for engine supply: "Formula 1, McLaren thinking about Ferrari: ongoing negotiation for Maranello engines"

 

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 14:08

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 17:55

hahah Radoye, 'ladan znoj :)


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Posted 11 July 2017 - 17:59

hahah Radoye, 'ladan znoj :)

 

Zasto? :huh:


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Posted 11 July 2017 - 18:20

Kakav ladan znoj kakvi bakrači. Meklaren kao ekipa mora pregovarati sa svim dobavljačima PJ, sa svim vozačima i sl. (manje više to rade ostale ekipe) a na medijima je da šire kojekakve srednje pečene ili reš pečene patke.


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Posted 13 July 2017 - 12:50

AMuS
 

HONDA EXIT FROM THE FORMULA 1?
Decision in October


There are many rumors about Honda, McLaren and Sauber. But what is the truth? We bring light into the dark and reveal what the Japanese are planning and what impact this has on the Formula 1 customers.

It has been speculating for months on which engines McLaren is driving in the 2018 season. There was talk of exit clauses because HondaClick here for the matching products on Amazon.de! did not deliver the promised quality . As a replacement for Honda everything was on offer. First Mercedes , then Renault , last even Ferrari . Last week Sauber moved to the center of the rumors. Honda does not want to give the Swiss racing team any engines , they said. Supposedly because the contract was made with a team boss who is no longer in office. The former partner Ferrari would be the logical savior, according to the rider's radio.

The truth looks different. McLaren can not separate from Honda , clean already. With McLaren must Honda pull the plug itself. Since the Japanese have paid a large part of the budget, they determine the conditionsValuable and convenient insurance! . Reversed case with Clean . There are clauses there, which clearly allow the Swiss to leave the contract again.
McLaren sees light at the end of the tunnel
According to our sources, Honda will only decide in October about its future in Formula OneClick here for the matching products on Amazon.de! . Then the second part of the dismantling stage is to be ignited, which in Austria with moderate success celebrated her racing debut. The complete package should bring Honda up to 35 or 40 HP to the competition. If that were the case, Honda remains in Formula One . Will the upgrade be a flop, then not.
This also makes clear why Fernando AlonsoClick here for the matching products on Amazon.de! in Austria suddenly called October as an appointment for his decision. So far it was always September. Now one understands why McLaren suddenly stopped his public criticism of the motor partner. There is light at the end of the tunnel. Either Honda gets the curve by itself, or you're out of the Honda trap.
The choice is clean: Mercedes or Ferrari

But who gives McLaren and clean engines when HondaCheap leasing offers can be found here! gets off? McLaren can wait until October, not clean. The team is too small for a short-term motor change. On the other hand, Sauber can cancel the Honda deal and look around McLaren on the engine market earlier. Both are of course already extending their feelers after a possible replacement. The remaining manufacturers Mercedes , Ferrari and RenaultCheap leasing offers can be found here! are trying to create facts to get the customer you want. Otherwise the rules or the FIA ​​determine who must help McLaren and Sauber out of need.
These rules look like this: When Honda disemets, Mercedes and Renault each deliver three teams, Ferrari two. Ferrari is thus the first address to which the teams have to turn without a motor. Since Maranello can not say no to both, they have the choice. Then probably Sauber would get the surcharge. All three manufacturers would have three teams. If all then refuse to supply McLaren, the lot decides. We hear, however, that McLaren has already successfully negotiated with Renault.
Mercedes and Ferrari have no great interest in supplying McLaren. One would only make one additional competitor strong. Clean is thus in a comfortable situation. The Swiss have the choice. Mercedes and Ferrari could protect themselves with a pact with Sauber against McLaren and their junior drivers in the team from Hinwil place.
The Problem of Wehrlein, Giovinazzi and Leclerc
So clean has an attractive bait. A free cockpit next to Marcus Ericsson. Honda would occupy the cockpit of Pascal Wehrlein with Nobuharu Matsushita. Ferrari has Antonio Giovinazzi and Charles Leclerc on offer. Mercedes is interested in keeping weirs in Formula 1 because there are hardly any open spaces for 2018.
Mercedes-race manager Toto Wolff and the new Sauber team manager Frédéric Vasseur are well-friends. It is therefore not at all impossible to agree on an engine contract in advance in the event that Honda disembarks.
Ferrari will of course try the same, because otherwise you get into the McLaren trap. The rules allow a maximum of four customers per manufacturer, without asking the FIA ​​for permission, but forcing those with the at least teams to jump in an emergency. That would be Ferrari, if Mercedes would agree with Sauber in advance.
There's only one problem. Officially, Mercedes and Ferrari can only begin negotiations if the contract between Sauber and Honda were resolved legally. No car maker can rely on the legal Ascension Commission to intervene in the existing contract of another autocone.


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Posted 14 July 2017 - 18:12

Frlo zanimljivo..

Interesting revelation from Horner that Zak Brown told him he "felt like he was watching the same movie" as RB/Merc saga of two years ago


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Posted 17 July 2017 - 14:42


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Posted 17 July 2017 - 15:48

Nikad nisam mogao da igram ove simulacije voznje sa pogledom iz treceg lica, jednostavno se sav pozbunjujem, uvek samo pogled iz kokpita!


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Posted 17 July 2017 - 16:23

Kod mene obrnuta situacija, tu kameru iz kokpita nikad nisam voleo, nisam imao pojma koliko sam daleko od krivine i kada trebam skrenuti
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#614 /13/Ален Шмит/

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 17:06

Kod mene opet obrnuta situacija, kameru iz trećeg lica nemerem svariti osim ako vozim na onom mom čudu od testnog centra s pločom od 2kmx2km. 

Pošto nikad nisam vozio bolid niti auto niti bilošta slično jedina referenca iskustva vožnje bolida su mi T kamere kojih sam se nagledao na TVu, gledajući onboard snimke s T kamera stvorio sam slike referensi tačke kočenja odnosno osećaj za 150, 100 ili 75 metara do kraja krivine pošto je po meni tačka kočenja ključ za što bolju vožnju (za skretanja kroz krivine i osećaj puštanja gasa kroz teže krivine ipak trebaš imati neki talenat, to ne možeš naštrebati  :D ). 

Što se tiče pogleda iz kokpita (onako kako vozač vidi), ne volim ga jer opet to je novi ugao i nisam navikao. Kad bi makar jedanput seo u bolid i naučio početne referense kao na primer pozicija točkova tada bi po prvi put stekao novi oseća koji bi me naterao da zavolim taj ugao.

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Baj d vej, na gornjem snimku možete upoznati gospodara ultimativnog popižđavanja i besnog ustajanja iz kokpita.


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#615 Hertzog

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 20:29

Sta je razlog da nemas polozen vozacki, godine ili?
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