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#571 Rad-oh-yeah?

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Posted 27 June 2017 - 18:01

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Honda ‘very relieved’ at season's first points
Tuesday, 27 June 2017
By Chris Medland / Image by Steven Tee/LAT


Honda is "very relieved" McLaren managed to score its first points of the season in the Azerbaijan Grand Prix and says the signs from Baku were encouraging.

The Baku City Circuit was expected to be one of McLaren-Honda's weakest venues of the year due to the emphasis on the power unit, but Fernando Alonso managed to score two points in a chaotic race. That result came despite Honda not running its upgraded power unit during the race, and head of F1 project Yusuke Hasegawa says he it is important the team has now scored its first points.

"I'm very relieved that we could get points," Hasegawa told RACER. "Actually, the drivers made a very good job in a race of survival. As a result, we are very pleased about that.

"It's very important of course [to finish with both cars]. Although we didn't have a big concern, as we're introducing a brand new engine and MGU-H so we shouldn't have an issue, but of course I'm very pleased we can show some development on reliability and because of that we can get a point, which is very good."

Both Alonso and Stoffel Vandoorne started at the back of the grid due to power unit penalties, and Hasegawa says the recovery is less important due to the nature of the race but still shows the power unit can fight in the midfield.

"From a performance point of view, just 13 cars finished, so it's fair to say we're not very fast. We can show some decent performance. We can finish the race is the most important point with some reliability. That performance was very reasonable one, I have to say. Finishing ninth is a very good position."

Explaining the process for the power unit penalties – with Alonso running the upgraded engine on Friday before taking a brand-new version of the older specification for the race weekend – Hasegawa says the plan had been to run the upgrade all weekend before a gearbox failure led to over-revving on Friday.

"As I've always mentioned, I'm not waiting for any updates. As soon as we can prepare, we'll bring the update. That means we have the update here. But because of that, we can prepare only one engine, so we can introduce it for Fernando's side.

"Before we came here, we knew we have to take a penalty, we have to introduce MGU-H number six, so we also decided to prepare enough numbers of the engine, to avoid any penalty after a couple of races. Of course we didn't decide to introduce two engines for Fernando before coming. We thought we had a chance to introduce two engines, but because we had a gearbox failure, we had no chance to discuss whether we would keep this spec three engine or if we would introduce another engine for Saturday or Sunday.

"As a consequence, we could have used the spec three for Saturday and Sunday but still we need to check the engine at Sakura, so that's the reason. We also knew we would get a penalty for Stoffel, so to increase the number of engines we introduced two engines here."

 

Koliko mi je poznato, jednom ubacen motor u bolid postaje zapecacen i nije ga moguce otvarati (otvaranje FIA pecata znaci da je taj motor izbacen iz dalje upotrebe za datu sezonu), tako da nisam siguran sta ocekuju da vide u Sakuri. Takodje, ovo o ubacivanju dva motora u cirkulaciju na ovoj trci je glupost, posto se svakog vikenda samo zadnji motor racuna za kazne (budu li ponovo probali da ubace onaj prvi opet ce da dobiju kaznu).

 

Dakle, price za malu decu.

 

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 15:36

Honda is confident it is finally making progress in formula one.

That is despite intense speculation that the struggling Japanese manufacturer's works partner since 2015, McLaren, is close to instigating a divorce.

However, there are in fact signs that things at Honda are finally improving.

Amid a flurry of component changes and penalties in Baku, the marque tested its long-awaited 'specification 3' engine in Baku.

Said to be worth 30 horse power, it will now make its race debut in Austria next weekend.

"We thought that in Baku, as we are so far behind and with the circuit characteristics, it would be difficult to score points," Honda chief Yusuke Hawegawa told Speed Week.

"So we used specification 2 and saved the new version for Fernando (Alonso) for Austria," he added.

As for the suggestions of a 30hp boost, Hasegawa answered: "It is in the right direction, although not enough to reach the level of the other engine manufacturers.

"But things are getting better at Honda. We will be stronger in 2018."

 

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 16:09

 

The Austrian Grand Prix Decides Fernando Alonso's Fate
Unless McLaren pulls off a miracle on the scale not seen since water became wine the McLaren-Alonso relationship will likely terminate.
By James Gilboy

June 28, 2017


Fernando Alonso set a deadline for his team earlier this month: be capable of winning in Belgium, or be ready to bid goodbye to his help. Between the performance of McLaren, a team that believes it developed a chassis on the level of leading Ferrari, Mercedes, and Red Bull, and Alonso's own driving, which he is quoted as saying is his best ever, McLaren and Alonso have every reason to believe they would be capable of winning races, were it not for the dead weight added by Honda. Speaking of Honda, its delayed "spec 3" engine upgrade is coming for use by both Vandoorne and Alonso at the next race weekend: the Austrian Grand Prix.

Alonso said the team has to be competitive before September, which means the team needs to be performing at the first race after the summer hiatus, the Belgian Grand Prix. It is common practice for teams to debut updated aero packages after the summer break midpoint of the season. While McLaren-Honda must have something in store for a debut at Spa, given the ultimatum set by their star driver, both McLaren and Red Bull have demonstrated this year that there is only so much a chassis can do to compensate for an underpowered engine. The cause of the delta between McLaren-Honda and the top three is already known to be the Honda engine and not a lack of talent by either drivers or chassis designers.

The likelihood of a chassis-side silver bullet solution to McLaren-Honda's lack of pace is, thus, slim to none. The odds of Honda bringing a further upgrade to field at Spa are equally negligible. The only upgrade that stands a chance of bringing the MCL32 closer to its rivals is due at the upcoming Austria race, so in reality... Alonso's decision may be made sooner than expected. There is no other upgrade between Austria and his Belgium deadline that stands a chance at resuscitating the relationship between driver and team.

Now, only Honda can change whether the final nail will be pounded into the coffin, or yanked back out. Start praying, Fernando.


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#574 /13/Ален Шмит/

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 17:40

Više izvora navode da će Meklaren testirati Mercedesovu PJ na drugom unutarsezonskom testiranju u Mađarskoj. Ajd da vidimo to čudo..


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Posted 29 June 2017 - 23:06

Dennis to sell McLaren shares in £275m deal


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Posted 30 June 2017 - 00:11

Gotovo, kraj jedne ere u F1. Jos se samo Ser Frenk drzi ali ni on se vise ne pita puno u vezi tima.

 

Nego, one price o Kinezima sto kao osnivaju novi F1 tim, ima li to ikakve veze sa ovim Ronovim Kinezima? I ako da, kakve su sanse da Ron zapocne i svoju cetvrtu trkacku ekipu (Rondel, Projekt4, Meklaren,...)?


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Posted 30 June 2017 - 01:50

Gotovo, kraj jedne ere u F1. Jos se samo Ser Frenk drzi ali ni on se vise ne pita puno u vezi tima.

 

Nego, one price o Kinezima sto kao osnivaju novi F1 tim, ima li to ikakve veze sa ovim Ronovim Kinezima? I ako da, kakve su sanse da Ron zapocne i svoju cetvrtu trkacku ekipu (Rondel, Projekt4, Meklaren,...)?

 

 

 

Taman koliko je dobio od prodaje ili tu blizu moze da kupi FI i da mu ostane lijepa suma za investicije.   

 

Malija je u g..... do grla, navodno trazi £200, pa bi mogla ta cifra da se smanji i da za jeftine pare da dobije odlican gotov tim. 

 

E sad, koliko je pametno s 70 godina  krenuti ispocetka, baviti se prilicno zahtjevnim i stresnim poslom je druga dimenzija.


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Posted 30 June 2017 - 15:31

It has now been confirmed that Ron Dennis is leaving McLaren and selling his shares in the McLaren Technology Group (25 percent) and in McLaren Automotive (10.3 percent). It is being suggested that the sale of the shares will raise $350 million, which would value the combined companies at close to $2 billion.

McLaren Automotive and the McLaren Technology Group are being brought together under one corporate structure to be called the McLaren Group. The announcement unifies all activities under a single coordinated strategy and brand, allowing the exceptional reputation of each business for technological excellence to be used across the entire Group for the benefit of all its customers, partners and employees.

The Bahrain Mumtalakat Holding Company and TAG Group become the McLaren Group’s long-term majority shareholders. Shaikh Mohammed bin Essa Al Khalifa will be McLaren Group’s Executive Chairman, Mansour Ojjeh its Executive Committee Principal. Mike Flewitt continues to lead McLaren Automotive as Chief Executive Officer while McLaren Technology Group Chief Operating Officer Jonathan Neale and McLaren Technology Group Executive Director Zak Brown also continue in their current roles.

The McLaren Group employs 3400 people located largely at its iconic McLaren Technology Centre headquarters in Woking, UK, and in 2016 had a combined turnover of $1.1 billion. The Group has secured long-term financing to pay for the acquisition of Dennis’s shares, working with J.P. Morgan.

Dennis, who turned 70 recently, has run McLaren for 37 years and has spent 51 years in top-level motorsport, primarily Formula 1. He led McLaren to 158 Grand Prix victories and 17 Formula 1 World Championships, as well as victory in the the Le Mans 24 Hours in 1995.


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Posted 03 July 2017 - 17:25

Honda Racing F1 boss Hasegawa-san on Austria: "We are going to bring the Spec Three for both drivers this weekend"

 

 

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Posted 05 July 2017 - 14:03

Meklaren izabrao 10 setova supermekih za Britaniju, Mercedes samo 6 :o Nisam do sada primetio da je McL 32  toliko nezan prema gumama, mada jeste ok.. U svakom slucaju, svidja mi se, ne mogu da kazem da rizikuju, rizikuje onaj ko ima nesto da izgubi, a mi nemamo nista da izgubimo :D


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Posted 05 July 2017 - 14:48

mi nemamo nista da izgubimo

 

Pa, jos su nam samo gace ostale... :mellow:


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Posted 05 July 2017 - 15:00

Šta ste tako negativni, ima šasija da nas izvuče. Još nismo videli kakve pogodnosti donosi treća specifikacija RA617H.


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Posted 05 July 2017 - 15:21

Šta ste tako negativni, ima šasija da nas izvuče. Još nismo videli kakve pogodnosti donosi treća specifikacija RA617H.

 

Prema navodno insajderskim glasovima iz Meklarena (nezvanicnim naravno) Honda 3.0 donosi oko 30 KS. Nama fali preko 100.


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Posted 05 July 2017 - 15:35

Ako bude pouzdana uz dobru šasiju i Alonsovu magiju poeni su sasvim mogući. 

 

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Posted 05 July 2017 - 16:08

Prema navodno insajderskim glasovima iz Meklarena (nezvanicnim naravno) Honda 3.0 donosi oko 30 KS. Nama fali preko 100.

Zar nisu rekli 12?


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