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[Rad-oh-yeah?]

Sergio Perez launched an outspoken attack on Williams driver Pastor Maldonado after the pair made contact in the British GP, putting the Mexican out if the race after 11 laps.
It was not the first time this year that the pair have made contact, an unnecessary incident in Monaco free practice also annoying Perez.
"Pastor doesn't respect other drivers," Perez stormed. "I was already in front and if not he should have given me enough space not to crash. I don't understand the way he is driving.
"It is not the first time he has damaged my weekend. He did the same in Valencia (where Madonado made contact with Hamilton) and they gave him a drive through which, I think, is not enough. This guy will never learn if they don't do something because he is a very dangerous driver and can hurt someone.
"Everybody has concerns about him. He is a driver who doesn't know we are risking our lives and has no respect at all. It is not a matter of close or not. He has no respect at all. The way he is driving I think the stewards really have to do something."
Race stewards are currently investigating the incident.

Pastor Maldonado and Kamui Kobayashi both collected hefty fines for their indiscretions in the British GP.
Maldonado, who collided with an irate Sergio Perez received an FIA reprimand and a 10,000 Euro fine from the race stewarding panel, which included multiple British GP winner Nigel Mansell.
Kobayashi, meanwhile, hit a number of his Sauber pit crew when he locked up entering his pit and collected a number of the crew waiting to change the right front wheel. The front jack man also took a tumble taking evasive action.
"It was totally my fault, I locked up, and I apologise to the team," Kobayashi said.
The Japanese driver was fined 25,000 Euros for "unsafe entry to a designated pit area." Fortunately there were no serious injuries, with one of the Sauber personnel involved suffering a dislocated thumb and the others, bruising.

Pastor Maldonado was fined €10,000 and given a reprimand by the FIA after his contact with Sergio Perez at Silverstone.
Both drivers had just made their pit stops when they collided as the Sauber tried to go around the outside of the Williams. Perez retired on the spot.
There has long been some tension between the two Latin American drivers, and Perez added to it in the aftermath of his retirement, saying of Maldonado “he has no respect for other drivers” and “he is just a very stupid driver.”
Maldonado insisted that he has simply lost control on cold tyres.
“I was on the inside of the corner, so the corner was mine at that moment,” he said. “He tried to close on me a bit, we were side-by-side, so close, and at that moment I lost the rear of my car and I just touched him.”
Asked about Perez’s comments, he said: “He’s always crying. In Monaco it was a normal incident. I think we need to value where it’s intentional and where it’s not. For sure it was clear it was not intentional.
“I’m looking forward to the next race and he can say whatever he wants. We are racing, you know, both of us were trying to do our best in the track. I was trying to defend a position, he was trying to gain the position, and this is racing you know. Otherwise everyone can race with the safety car, and it’s safer.”

Edited by Rad-oh-yeah?, 09 July 2012 - 05:01.

[alpiner]

Inace sto se tice prvog kruga, Grozan je bio oko 35 sekuni iza Alonsa po izlasku iz boksa, ali samo oko 9 iza pretposlednjeg, sto naravno ne umanjuje njegov rezultat.

Ne mogu da tvrdim kako sam u pravu. Sećam se te brojke sa live timinga. Meni je nelogično da je bio samo 30 sekundi iza Alonsa , a već je zaostajao za njim poprilično i trebalo mu je vremena samo za pit sa promenom krila što je veoma blizu 30 sec. Kako god, momak je klasa!!

Ja sam trku gledao ranjen pošto sam prethodnu noć slavio rođendan na reci sa društvom. U jednom momentu sam se okliznuo na splavu za kupanje i odvalio rebro na ivicu. Boli u piiiiii.ku materinu, a ja sutra krećem za Nemačku i Holandiju da kupim matorom auto.

Ovaj put iz Nederlanda stiže


Trne spremaj najjače medikamente ili džak gita da mi napraviš korito za grudni koš. Nadam se da si dobar u zidarskim radovima.

Edited by alpiner, 09 July 2012 - 07:01.

[4_Webber]

Grozan je bio brz ali je i ispred sebe imao cistu stazu. Da se nije sudario sa Di Restom uhvatio bi ga voz koji je napravio Sumaher i u najboljem slucaju bi bio peti.

edit: a dodao bih i to da nije morao da koristi soft posle prva dva kruga

Edited by 4_Webber, 09 July 2012 - 08:01.

[Hedon]

Ne mogu da tvrdim kako sam u pravu. Sećam se te brojke sa live timinga. Meni je nelogično da je bio samo 30 sekundi iza Alonsa , a već je zaostajao za njim poprilično i trebalo mu je vremena samo za pit sa promenom krila što je veoma blizu 30 sec. Kako god, momak je klasa!!

zaostajao je tacno 32.396s (pit je zbog promene krila trajao 9s duze nego sto bi 'normalno')

Grozan je bio brz ali je i ispred sebe imao cistu stazu. Da se nije sudario sa Di Restom uhvatio bi ga voz koji je napravio Sumaher i u najboljem slucaju bi bio peti.

+1

[romantik]

Totalno mi je nejasno kako su ga te zute gume izdale u tom zadnjem stintu. Gde je bio problem?

Mozda zato sto je morao da vozi ubedljivo najduze od svih na njima?

Nije samo problem u dužini stinta, jer da je to problem Alonso je trebao imati 6-7 krugova u kojima bi bio brži od Webbera pa tek onda da mu počnu opadati performanse, a on je praktično od starta bio sporiji. Isto važi i za Hamiltona, on je imao ultra kratak stint na žutim pa je bio sporiji od ljudi koji su bili na srebrenim.
Da je kiša pala tokom trke Alonso bi bio najpametniji, jer je po suvom vozio isključivo brže gume, tako je i napravio prednost na startu, zato kažem da je po meni bila ispravna strategija, gledajući procente i verovatnoću događaja, i ja bih uradio isto pre starta trke.

[Arnold Schwarzenegger]

Zasto je Ferari neobjasnjivo bio spor na zutim gumama, to je pitanje, pa brzi su bili na srebrnim.

[romantik]

Zasto je Ferari neobjasnjivo bio spor na zutim gumama, to je pitanje, pa brzi su bili na srebrnim.

Odgovor je već dat, svi su bili brži na srebrenim nego na žutim, jednostavno žute nisu mogle da izdrže bočne sile u brzim krivinama i svi su imali proklizavnja bukvalno od prvog kruga kad ih stave.

[Uzice]

Ako su bolidi bili podeseni za kisu, sto je posle onakvih kvalifikacija vrlo moguce, za mene je to najveci razlog zasto su se tako ponasali na meksim gumama.

[4_Webber]

Ne, ne, Alonso je imao set ap za suvo.

[Duh sa sekirom]

ja sutra krećem za Nemačku i Holandiju da kupim matorom auto.
Ovaj put iz Nederlanda stiže


Trne spremaj najjače medikamente ili džak gita da mi napraviš korito za grudni koš. Nadam se da si dobar u zidarskim radovima.

Alp, jedan savet NEMOJ ni slučajno da uzimaš Renault Scenic II 1.4 benzinca,a ni bilo koji drugi benz motor. Par dana pre nego što ćeš ti uzeti onog amera moj ćale je pazario već pomenuti Reno Senik II 1.4 16v sa ugrađenim plinom. Mrzim ta kola. Strašno puno troše, i na otvorenom mu je prosek velik, a druga zajebana stvar je ventilacija. Stavim da ubacuje "svež" noćni vazduh u kabinu, a on ubacuje vruć vazduh. Vozio ga kod majstora(Vlade Ruskaija iz Kamenice), a on kaže da je to boljka svih benzinaca. Motor se jako greje i zagreva filter za vazduh i ventilacione kanale koji zagrevaju vazduh. Putovao sam za vikend u Mađarsku(i vraćao sam se), 400km u jednom pravcu, noćna vožnja, napolju prijatno, totalno glupo uključiti klimu, a ventilacija ti ubacuje vreo vazduh unutra, a na autoputu ne možeš otvoriti prozore, Užas... Napolju 20 stepeni, a ja uključujem klimu.... Ceo put sam psovao Renou i onima koji ga napraviše sve po spisku iako sam pre ovoga 10 godina terao Renoa 19 turbo dizel 1.9dti i bio prezadovoljan njime. Jedan od razloga zašto smo ponovo uzeli renoa. Kaže majstor da smo uzeli dizel ne bi imali taj problem jer dizel motor jedva zagreje sebe, a ćale se zaljubio u Senika na prvi pogled, a ja rekoh neka ga uzima kola za sebe, ja ću ionako sebi uzei šta želim na zimu... A na 19-tici sam bez problema mogao tako da se ladim, samo uključim ventilaciju sa zatvorenim prozorima, pa i danju tokom leta i super (naravno na autoputu).

[stex]

Kad će da se manete tih kanti? Alfa Romeo 159 je prava stvar.

[Rad-oh-yeah?]

MAURICE HAMILTON

Silverstone: Flushing away goodwill

JULY 11, 2012



When Paddy Lowe attempted to make a quick getaway through Silverstone's back gate at 6.45pm on Sunday, McLaren's technical director found the way barred. A farmer, for reasons best known to himself, had taken the unilateral decision to block the mile-long track adjoining his fields.
The man would not be moved and his indignant eleventh-hour stance summed up frustrations that took many forms during the weekend of the British Grand Prix. Eventually a tide of simmering anger, gathering strength with the arrival of more motorists, persuaded the objector to stand aside and glare at each passing car as if it was a threat to the farming community of rural England.
Having endured, by McLaren's expectation of excellence, a miserable weekend with Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button finishing eighth and tenth, this was probably the final straw for the man responsible for a car that clearly did not work on the day. But if Lowe thought he was in trouble, then a quick glance to the camp site on his left would have shown the plight of hundreds who were, literally, in the shit.
The entrance to the site resembled a scene from the Welsh Bog Snorkelling Championship in Llanwrtyd Wells where competitors swim up and down a 133-metre bog and say they're having fun.
F1 fans assuredly did have a good time - once they got into the circuit. But the strength of their enthusiasm and endurance had been severely tested by the journey to Silverstone and the conditions when they finally got there. Even by the British Grand Prix's soggy standards in the past, this one - no pun intended - plumbed new depths.
It's important to stress from the outset that this was one of the many corners of England that had endured exceptional rainfall during the previous month; a phenomenon that continues to have its effect this week as major outdoor events across the country are cancelled. But what stuck in the craw of many campers at Silverstone was the fact that record-breaking precipitation in June and the subsequent ground conditions appeared to have caught the landlords by surprise.
F1 fans, being the stoic bunch that they are, accept the British summer weather is what it is. But, as they delicately point out, the same applies to a more personal force of nature that also cannot be denied.
Malcolm Leyland, a photographer and keen follower of F1, heeded the warning about traffic chaos and, after an easy drive from the South East, arrived at the camp site at 1am on Saturday morning to join friends who had already pitched tent. The advice at the gate was to park wherever he could and expect a wait to be towed out on departure. After that, good luck.
"We managed to park near what little hard-standing there was," says Leyland. "We had to get pushed out of the mud when we went for a meal on Saturday night, but we managed. Even so, given the rain we'd had, I was surprised to find there was no metal tracking laid anywhere on the grass. You just had to get on with it and drive into the mud.
"But," continues Leyland, "the most unacceptable bit was the toilets. There were just five Portaloos. You tried not to use them but, eventually, you had no choice. They were disgusting and, as far as I could see, they weren't cleaned over the weekend. No effort had been made to place them on a hard-standing area. And there were no washing facilities at all. The whole thing had to be a health hazard. I won't begin to describe what it was like - except to say it was an affront to everyone's dignity."
Leyland and his partner spent £800 on grandstand seats, camping and fuel. Yet, despite such a considerable outlay, the feeling of being a second-class citizen was unavoidable. "It wasn't welcoming," he says. "You get the impression there is an inner F1 circle with the glamour, and then the outer circle where the spectators get a very poor deal and nobody inside F1 really cares what happens to them."
That said, Leyland enjoyed a great race from Woodcote Grandstand and managed to make a reasonably quick - once they had been pushed out of mud, of course - exit. It took all of the next day to clean his car and their belongings.
Thousands of F1 fans were doing the same in other parts of the country. While no one can legislate for the weather, F1 and the Silverstone campsites need to make sure that goodwill wasn't being flushed down the drain along with the mud on Monday morning. It's to be hoped Paddy Lowe and his team manage a more dignified recovery.

U jednom pasusu sazeto sve sto ne valja u Bernijevoj F1 - i razlog zbog koga ona NIKADA nece uspeti u Americi.

Edited by Rad-oh-yeah?, 13 July 2012 - 08:02.