Ferrari 2012
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#47
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Posted 21 February 2012 - 11:57
Ferari jutros samo 13 krugova za 3 sata. Ovo uopste nije dobro i stvarno postajem zabrinut.
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Posted 21 February 2012 - 12:08
Frustrirajuce je ovo... Zavrsice zimsko testiranje sa jedva 150 krugova, bojim se da bi ovo mogla biti poprilicno bolna godina za nas 
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Posted 21 February 2012 - 16:35
Ferari jutros samo 13 krugova za 3 sata. Ovo uopste nije dobro i stvarno postajem zabrinut.
Koliki ce tek biti kratki "stintovi" na stoperici?
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 19:52
Po završetku testiranja Pat Fry je poručio fanovima da ne očekuju podijum u Melburnu.
Iako je moguće da ovom izjavom Fry namerno spušta loptu da bi smanjio očekivanja, čini se da oni jednostavno ne znaju šta da rade sa auspuhom i gde da ga nanišane.
Još jedna frustrirajuća godina za Tifose u najavi.
Iako je moguće da ovom izjavom Fry namerno spušta loptu da bi smanjio očekivanja, čini se da oni jednostavno ne znaju šta da rade sa auspuhom i gde da ga nanišane.
Još jedna frustrirajuća godina za Tifose u najavi.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 08:31
Montezemolo wants answers on problems with Ferrari F2012
James Allen
Luca di Montezemolo, the president of Ferrari, has publicly entered the debate about the problems the new F2012 has been having in testing, increasing the pressure on the technical team hurrying to find the remedy.
Speaking in Geneva ahead of the launch of the new F12 Berlinetta, the most powerful road going Ferrari ever with 740 horsepower (similar to an F1 car) he said, “I spoke to Alonso and he said that that there are many positive features on the car, but it will take time to unlock their potential. It’s a car still to be discovered and only in Melbourne will we know where we are.
“I hope that the predictions about us are wrong. And if they are true I will want to know why this has happened and how many seconds it’s going to take to put it right.”
Reading between the lines it’s clear that Montezemolo does not have the patience should Ferrari start the season as some are predicting, well behind the Red Bull/McLaren battle and maybe behind Mercedes too.
Montezemolo’s comments follow those of Technical director Pat Fry on the Ferrari website last weekend, “We are disappointed with the performance level seen at these tests and I think we have a lot of work ahead of us. We will have a few updates for Melbourne, basically aimed at readapting the car to the exhaust configuration we have chosen to run for at least the first four races of the season.”
Ferrari’s own overview of Fry’s comments in the same posting on their website read, “His analysis of the twelve days of testing carried out these past two months between Jerez and Barcelona is lucid and not does not leave much room for illusion, although it does not abandon itself to self flagellation of the masochistic kind.”
According to my colleague Giorgio Piola, the veteran Italian technical journalist writing in Gazzetta dello Sport today, Ferrari is working on a significant chassis modification involving the sidepods, which could require a new crash test under Article 16.1.2 of the 2012 FIA Technical Regulations. According to Piola there could be one or two other teams making similar moves, it is believed.
It’s a race against time with the cars needing to fly out to Melbourne at the end of this week.
James Allen
Luca di Montezemolo, the president of Ferrari, has publicly entered the debate about the problems the new F2012 has been having in testing, increasing the pressure on the technical team hurrying to find the remedy.
Speaking in Geneva ahead of the launch of the new F12 Berlinetta, the most powerful road going Ferrari ever with 740 horsepower (similar to an F1 car) he said, “I spoke to Alonso and he said that that there are many positive features on the car, but it will take time to unlock their potential. It’s a car still to be discovered and only in Melbourne will we know where we are.
“I hope that the predictions about us are wrong. And if they are true I will want to know why this has happened and how many seconds it’s going to take to put it right.”
Reading between the lines it’s clear that Montezemolo does not have the patience should Ferrari start the season as some are predicting, well behind the Red Bull/McLaren battle and maybe behind Mercedes too.
Montezemolo’s comments follow those of Technical director Pat Fry on the Ferrari website last weekend, “We are disappointed with the performance level seen at these tests and I think we have a lot of work ahead of us. We will have a few updates for Melbourne, basically aimed at readapting the car to the exhaust configuration we have chosen to run for at least the first four races of the season.”
Ferrari’s own overview of Fry’s comments in the same posting on their website read, “His analysis of the twelve days of testing carried out these past two months between Jerez and Barcelona is lucid and not does not leave much room for illusion, although it does not abandon itself to self flagellation of the masochistic kind.”
According to my colleague Giorgio Piola, the veteran Italian technical journalist writing in Gazzetta dello Sport today, Ferrari is working on a significant chassis modification involving the sidepods, which could require a new crash test under Article 16.1.2 of the 2012 FIA Technical Regulations. According to Piola there could be one or two other teams making similar moves, it is believed.
It’s a race against time with the cars needing to fly out to Melbourne at the end of this week.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 16:45
Montezemolo wants answers on problems with Ferrari F2012
Ma krivi su vozaci, ne trude se dovoljno...
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 18:31
“I hope that the predictions about us are wrong"
I ja se nadam da je tako. Mozda i sandbaguju ko zna.
A podsetio bi i na slucaj Mclaren od prosle godine kada su na testiranjima bili truba a na prvoj trci DRUGI.
I ja se nadam da je tako. Mozda i sandbaguju ko zna.
A podsetio bi i na slucaj Mclaren od prosle godine kada su na testiranjima bili truba a na prvoj trci DRUGI.
Edited by Arnold Schwarzenegger, 07 March 2012 - 18:33.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:14
Ferrari car fix means new crash test - report
Ferrari is already working on a major chassis modification that could require the F2012 to undergo a new FIA crash test.
That is the claim on Wednesday of Italy's La Gazzetta dello Sport.
The report follows Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo's alarm at the team's current situation, with Fernando Alonso expecting Ferrari will have to "suffer" early this season based on recent track testing results.
"I would like to understand why and above all understand how we can very quickly make the necessary changes," said Montezemolo at the Geneva Motor Show.
Gazzetta said the modification is to the 2012 car's sidepod area.
Ferrari is already working on a major chassis modification that could require the F2012 to undergo a new FIA crash test.
That is the claim on Wednesday of Italy's La Gazzetta dello Sport.
The report follows Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo's alarm at the team's current situation, with Fernando Alonso expecting Ferrari will have to "suffer" early this season based on recent track testing results.
"I would like to understand why and above all understand how we can very quickly make the necessary changes," said Montezemolo at the Geneva Motor Show.
Gazzetta said the modification is to the 2012 car's sidepod area.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 11:19
Column: Ferrari's current plight
Ivo Pakvis
7 March 2012
There was quite an uproar in the final week of testing before the new season. Ferrari decided their drivers weren't going to speak to the press anymore, to 'focus on their jobs'. And that didn't go down well with the press and – understandably - our Spanish colleagues weren't happy at all. Ferrari does have weird antics if things aren't going that well. Not the driver's fault, not the team's fault. It's the fault of the institution that is Ferrari.
Just across me in the Barcelona media centre, a Spanish journalist was fuming behind his laptop. For the sake of this article, let's call him Manuel. Manuel was angrily debating with his colleagues. My grasp of the Spanish language doesn't reach much further than some rudimentary words but I got the jist of the conversation. "Luca Colajanni", said Manuel, before making the gesture of bashing someone with a hammer. Luca Colajanni is Ferrari's Press Officer. He decides if you get an interview with Fernando Alonso. And where most Press Officers are very easy to get along with, Colajanni is a different story. Almost everyone has a story about him and usually, it's not a good one.
And that's a shame, because Ferrari doesn't deserve that kind of negative attention. I mean, it's Ferrari. The team every young driver dreams about. The team with the biggest fanbase in the world. The team with Fernando Alonso, still seen as one of the fastest and most complete drivers out there. And although Ferrari has become more friendly since Ross Brawn and Jean Todt left, it still has its rough edges.
And those rough edges are visible when things aren't going Ferrari's way. Like now. The new Ferrari is not the world beater they were hoping it was going to be and that makes the team worried. And who can blame them. And a worried Ferrari is good for a story, so naturally, the press wants to talk to their drivers. From all across Europe, and mainly Spain, journalists flocked in to get quotes from Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa. But then, Luca Colajanni walked into the press room.
His drivers weren't going to say anything anymore. Nobody was going to have an interview. One of those glorious Mediterranean discussion followed. Lots of gestures, lots of raised voices. But Colajanni wasn't going to change his mind. No interviews, full stop. The Spanish journalists sat down fuming. Caterham's Press Officer, Tom Webb, could see the funny side and came in to announce, loudly, that hís driver would be available for the press. It resulted in some lovely banter between ourselves and Webb on Twitter, which ended in us giving him a bottle of champagne. GPUpdate.net and Caterham are now friends for life.
But Ferrari can't do much good in the eyes of the press at the moment. Almost nobody can sympathize with their behavior. It's one of those annoying things Ferrari usually only does when things are going wrong. Instead of being open and honest, they're digging their heels in the sand and starting to shout at things that have nothing to do with it. Luca di Montezemolo might step up and say that the sport is in a downward spiral anyway and that everything has to change or otherwise Ferrari might leave the sport. Or something like that. It's not a really clever way of doing things. Ferrari is better than that.
Pat Fry was available for the press on Sunday. No podium places, the Technical Director said. Pat tried to make the best of it and was smiling all the way through. It showed that the team itself isn't all that bad. They might want to talk and be friendly, it's just that they're not allowed. Maybe Ferrari is Italy on a small scale. Both Lucas represent Silvio Berlusconi, the rest of the team the Italian people. The head of the team isn't really representative of the team itself. Berlusconi has left, maybe a reshuffle wouldn't hurt Ferrari.
Ivo Pakvis
7 March 2012
There was quite an uproar in the final week of testing before the new season. Ferrari decided their drivers weren't going to speak to the press anymore, to 'focus on their jobs'. And that didn't go down well with the press and – understandably - our Spanish colleagues weren't happy at all. Ferrari does have weird antics if things aren't going that well. Not the driver's fault, not the team's fault. It's the fault of the institution that is Ferrari.
Just across me in the Barcelona media centre, a Spanish journalist was fuming behind his laptop. For the sake of this article, let's call him Manuel. Manuel was angrily debating with his colleagues. My grasp of the Spanish language doesn't reach much further than some rudimentary words but I got the jist of the conversation. "Luca Colajanni", said Manuel, before making the gesture of bashing someone with a hammer. Luca Colajanni is Ferrari's Press Officer. He decides if you get an interview with Fernando Alonso. And where most Press Officers are very easy to get along with, Colajanni is a different story. Almost everyone has a story about him and usually, it's not a good one.
And that's a shame, because Ferrari doesn't deserve that kind of negative attention. I mean, it's Ferrari. The team every young driver dreams about. The team with the biggest fanbase in the world. The team with Fernando Alonso, still seen as one of the fastest and most complete drivers out there. And although Ferrari has become more friendly since Ross Brawn and Jean Todt left, it still has its rough edges.
And those rough edges are visible when things aren't going Ferrari's way. Like now. The new Ferrari is not the world beater they were hoping it was going to be and that makes the team worried. And who can blame them. And a worried Ferrari is good for a story, so naturally, the press wants to talk to their drivers. From all across Europe, and mainly Spain, journalists flocked in to get quotes from Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa. But then, Luca Colajanni walked into the press room.
His drivers weren't going to say anything anymore. Nobody was going to have an interview. One of those glorious Mediterranean discussion followed. Lots of gestures, lots of raised voices. But Colajanni wasn't going to change his mind. No interviews, full stop. The Spanish journalists sat down fuming. Caterham's Press Officer, Tom Webb, could see the funny side and came in to announce, loudly, that hís driver would be available for the press. It resulted in some lovely banter between ourselves and Webb on Twitter, which ended in us giving him a bottle of champagne. GPUpdate.net and Caterham are now friends for life.
But Ferrari can't do much good in the eyes of the press at the moment. Almost nobody can sympathize with their behavior. It's one of those annoying things Ferrari usually only does when things are going wrong. Instead of being open and honest, they're digging their heels in the sand and starting to shout at things that have nothing to do with it. Luca di Montezemolo might step up and say that the sport is in a downward spiral anyway and that everything has to change or otherwise Ferrari might leave the sport. Or something like that. It's not a really clever way of doing things. Ferrari is better than that.
Pat Fry was available for the press on Sunday. No podium places, the Technical Director said. Pat tried to make the best of it and was smiling all the way through. It showed that the team itself isn't all that bad. They might want to talk and be friendly, it's just that they're not allowed. Maybe Ferrari is Italy on a small scale. Both Lucas represent Silvio Berlusconi, the rest of the team the Italian people. The head of the team isn't really representative of the team itself. Berlusconi has left, maybe a reshuffle wouldn't hurt Ferrari.
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Posted 09 March 2012 - 00:54
Izgleda da im stvari zaista ne idu kako treba...
Ferrari holds top level discussion
8 March 2012
Luca di Montezemolo, President of Ferrari, held a significant meeting with Team Principal Stefano Domenicali and the outfit's 'top engineers' on Wednesday, focused on developing the new F2012. After a tough pre-season, the marque looks set to have a tough task on its hands to fight at the top of F1's pecking order.
“I found a team that is very concentrated and determined,” Montezemolo told the official Ferrari website. “I saw in Domenicali and our engineers a great desire to show what they’re worth and to react to a winter programme that didn’t live up to our targets.
“I must underline these are our words because we will only discover the truth about where we stand compared to the others after Saturday qualifying in Melbourne: today we can only make assumptions.
Despite Ferrari's struggles in Jerez and Barcelona, di Montezemolo went on to explain that the planned 20-race calendar offers the squad plenty of scope for improvement.
“No matter how it goes in Melbourne, I would like to remind everyone that this will be the longest championship in the history of Formula 1,” he began to sum up. “We certainly won’t be able to draw conclusions after just one race.”
Ferrari holds top level discussion
8 March 2012
Luca di Montezemolo, President of Ferrari, held a significant meeting with Team Principal Stefano Domenicali and the outfit's 'top engineers' on Wednesday, focused on developing the new F2012. After a tough pre-season, the marque looks set to have a tough task on its hands to fight at the top of F1's pecking order.
“I found a team that is very concentrated and determined,” Montezemolo told the official Ferrari website. “I saw in Domenicali and our engineers a great desire to show what they’re worth and to react to a winter programme that didn’t live up to our targets.
“I must underline these are our words because we will only discover the truth about where we stand compared to the others after Saturday qualifying in Melbourne: today we can only make assumptions.
Despite Ferrari's struggles in Jerez and Barcelona, di Montezemolo went on to explain that the planned 20-race calendar offers the squad plenty of scope for improvement.
“No matter how it goes in Melbourne, I would like to remind everyone that this will be the longest championship in the history of Formula 1,” he began to sum up. “We certainly won’t be able to draw conclusions after just one race.”
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Posted 09 March 2012 - 20:13
Jel moze malo vise na srpskom. Ovde ko da sam dosao na engleski forum. Zar nije bolje napisati nesto na srpskom i ostaviti link?
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Posted 09 March 2012 - 20:26
Uči, trebaće ti!
Koliko jezika govoriš toliko vrediš.
Zezam se, jbg pa treba ljudima vremena za prevod ozbiljnog teksta. Koristi Google translate, bar će ti malo pomoći.
Koliko jezika govoriš toliko vrediš.
Zezam se, jbg pa treba ljudima vremena za prevod ozbiljnog teksta. Koristi Google translate, bar će ti malo pomoći.
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Posted 09 March 2012 - 20:49
pa kako onda pratis f1 na sky-u kad ne sprehujes ingleski?
