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Poll: Ko je pobednik? (25 member(s) have cast votes)

Ko je pobednik u nedelju?

  1. Massa (1 votes [5.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

  2. Hamilton (1 votes [5.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

  3. Raikkonen (13 votes [68.42%])

    Percentage of vote: 68.42%

  4. Kubica (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Kovalainen (3 votes [15.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.79%

  6. Neko od nenavedenih (1 votes [5.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

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#1 alpiner

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 22:58

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Silverstone tech file


The challenge of racing at Silverstone has been transformed in recent years by the introduction of V8 engines and ever-increasing levels of downforce. The result is that corners previously requiring downshifts can now be taken with just a lift of the throttle, and indeed the first half of the lap, all the way to Vale, requires very little braking at all.

The engines are therefore under prolonged load with a full throttle percentage of 66% per lap. Corners range from 180 mph sweepers to the long, slow complex at the end of the lap – and the car must also cope with the bumpy surface and capricious, gusting winds.

Aerodynamics
Downforce levels at Silverstone are medium to high – the same as those used at the last race in Magny-Cours. The downforce is required for the quick corners in the opening part of the lap, and the relatively short straights and short braking zones mean that any deficit in straightline speed is unlikely to see competitors overtaking you. The lack of heavy braking also means we run some of the smallest brake ducts of the year to optimise aerodynamic performance.

Ride
Ride is an important characteristic at Silverstone, where maintaining consistent aerodynamic performance is so critical for performance in the quick corners. The surface is quite bumpy, and nowhere more so than under braking for turn 8, where the uneven surface can unsettle the car. The drivers also tend to drift out onto the kerbs exiting the quick corners in order to take the fastest line, which can make the circuit seem bumpier than it is.

Suspension
We run the car with a forward mechanical balance at this circuit – essentially with a stiff front end and softer rear end. The stiff front gives the car a good change of direction in the high and slow speed corners, while the softer rear end gives better grip under traction, exiting turns 9, 11 and 16 in particular.

Tyres
Tyres are always given a hard time at this track, especially because of the numerous high-speed corners, and this means that Silverstone, along with Barcelona and Spa, is among the toughest tracks of the season for tyre wear. To cope with this Bridgestone will offer the ‘medium’ and ‘hard’ compounds from its 2008 range of Potenza tyres in order to cope with these challenges.

Ambient conditions
As a former airfield, Silverstone is inevitably exposed to the wind – and this can have a big impact on car performance. Gusting wind alters the aerodynamic balance of the car and makes handling unpredictable, particularly in the high-speed corners. The driver must be able to judge the direction and strength of the wind, and adjust his driving accordingly.

Strategy
Fuel consumption is high at Silverstone, as is the time penalty for carrying extra fuel weight. This means that it is a circuit where strategies rarely vary from the norm, as two extra laps of fuel, for example, could cost nearly two tenths per lap. Expect to see most teams running a “standard” two stop strategy, which is generally slightly forward-biased for the front runners in order to ensure good grid position and clean air in which to race in the early stages. With overtaking nearly impossible at this circuit, track position is all-important.

Engine
The Silverstone circuit gives the latest generation of V8 engines a thorough workout with just under 66% of the lap spent at full throttle. This is slightly less demanding than in previous years, largely due to the advent of control tyres from Bridgestone, but the engine still needs to be responsive at high revs as the drivers take the quick corners on either full or partial throttle. In terms of cooling, an extensive test at this circuit in the run up to the Grand Prix means we are well prepared for every eventuality.

Full throttle: 66%
Brake wear: Light
Downforce level: Medium High - 8/10
Tyre compounds: Medium / Hard
Tyre usage: Medium
Average speed: 230kph

Pobednici:
Raikkonen 2007
Alonso 2006
Montoya 2005
Barrichello 2003
Hakkinen 2001
Coulthard 1999, 2000
Schumacher 1998, 2002, 2004
Villeneuve 1996, 1997
Herbert 1995
Hill 1994
Senna 1988
Mansell 1987, 1991, 1992
Prost 1983, 1985, 1989, 1990, 1993

Petak:
Practice 1 11:00
Practice 2 15:00

Subota:
Practice 11:00
Qualifying 14:00

Nedelja:
Race 14:00

Edited by alpiner, 30 June 2008 - 23:49.


#2 alpiner

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 08:31

Najavljuju kišu za subotu i nedelju.

#3 alpiner

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 09:07

Silverstone 1977. je bio debi za Renault i turbo motor u F1.
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Bernie i Max 1978.
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1991.
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Edited by alpiner, 01 July 2008 - 09:08.


#4 alberto.ascari

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 11:14

Mislim da će uzeti RAI, MAS verovatno na podijumu, sigurno dobar rezultat KUB, HAM ako ne bude startovao do P4, velika verovatnoća da će da syebe trku, ako bude u qvaldi prvi ili drugi red, ide na podijum. KOV, ne znam, pre bih verovao da WEB ili ALO mogu da urade bolji rezultat. Treba računati i sa Toyotom, dosta moguće da odvezu zanimljiv rezultat. Ne znam šta da očekujem od Williamsa, poslednja trka je bila krš, a ovo je ipak domaća staza a Toyota ima dobar motor, čak je na početku sezone bio bolji u Williamsu nego u sopstvenom autu. U vreme trke ću biti u avionu, valjda ću uhvatiti uveče neki snimak :ph34r:

#5 Downforce

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 15:03

Ocekujem priblizavanje McLarena Ferrariju. Na testovima je bilo zanimljivih aerodinamickih novotarija sa njihove strane. Hamiton moze da zezne trku samo usled pritiska medija i preterane zelje za dokazivanjem. Bice tesno u vrhu.

Takodje, ocekujem BMW-ov pad. Nista novo sa njihove strane nije prikazano vec duze vreme. Tavore sa razvojem i to ce ih kostati dosta na ovoj trci.

Toyota bi mogla da iznenadi. Renault sa Alonsom i Pikeom bi trebao da bude u poenima. Force India je znacajno izmenio aerodinamiku bolida. Mogli bi da zablistaju. Red Bull i Toro Rosso ce nastaviti sa dobrim rezultatima. Williams takodje tavori sa razvojem.

Kisa bi bila visak. Staza je ekstremno zanimljiva i bez nje. Samo bi unela pometnju i osakatila brzinu i fluidnost voznje koju Silverston nudi.

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Edited by Downforce, 01 July 2008 - 15:04.


#6 Allen Konigsberg

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 17:58

Uz pardoncek zbog prizemnog pitanja, ali - jel po nasem vremenu trka u 14h?

#7 Jr

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 18:00

Uz pardoncek zbog prizemnog pitanja, ali - jel po nasem vremenu trka u 14h?


ides na formula1.com imas automatsku detekciju i izracun za localtime...

#8 alberto.ascari

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 18:09

Interesantan poll.

#9 Allen Konigsberg

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 18:18

Zahvaljujem!

#10 alberto.ascari

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 10:39

Počela kiša

Edited by alberto.ascari, 04 July 2008 - 10:44.


#11 alpiner

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 11:07

Alonsu puko motor u Stowe krivini. Izgleda da je Massa naleteo na to ulje krug kasnije, izleteo i udario u zid.

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#12 alberto.ascari

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 12:23

Tako je, Alonsovo ulje.

Massa ima 3. i dva puta 4. brzinu po sektorima, a ipak najbrži krug. Znači dobra kontinuirana vožnja.


Practice one - Massa fastest, but crashes heavilyFerrari’s Felipe Massa set the fastest time in Friday’s first practice session for the British Grand Prix here at Silverstone this morning, but also brought out the red flag for 15 minutes after crashing immediately after establishing the benchmark.

The Brazilian had just lapped in 1m 19.575s when he encountered freshly spilled oil at Stowe corner, courtesy of Fernando Alonso whose Renault had just lost its engine. The Brazilian’s Ferrari snapped sideways and went off backwards, hard, into the tyre wall on the outside. Massa was unhurt, but his F2008 is a mess.

Later Heikki Kovalainen raised McLaren hopes by reducing his time to 1m 19.587s to displace team mate Lewis Hamilton, who had worked down to 1m 19.623s. Kimi Raikkonen in the second Ferrari was the final runner beneath 1m 20s, with 1m 19.948s for fourth fastest slot.

Robert Kubica was some way off the leading quartet for BMW Sauber, lapping his F1.08 in 1m 20.367s to fend off the hamstrung Alonso, who recorded 1m 20.436s before his problem.

Sebastian Vettel was again in strong form for Toro Rosso with 1m 20.588s, and the young German was chased by Renault’s Nelson Piquet on 1m 20.653s, Red Bull’s David Coulthard on 1m 20.698s and Nico Rosberg on 1m 20.744s. Mark Webber’s 1m 20.892s in the second Red Bull rounded out in 11th place the runners below 1m 21s.

Timo Glock was another driver to encounter Alonso’s oil, but only spun his Toyota. Earlier he had also rotated at Brooklands before posting 1m 21.102s to head Nick Heidfeld on 1m 21.107s in the second BMW Sauber. Toro Rosso’s Sebastien Bourdais was 14th with 1m 21.166s ahead of Toyota’s Jarno Trulli on 1m 21.265s and Williams’ Kazuki Nakajima on 1m 21.282s. Then there was a gap to Jenson Button in 1m 21.901s in a slightly improved Honda RA108.

Adrian Sutil survived a hefty off-course moment at Becketts which put some serious impacts into the floor of his Force India, to lap in 1m 22.169s, just ahead of team mate Giancarlo Fisichella on 1m 22.219s.

At the back, Rubens Barrchello only managed 1m 24.123s before his Honda ran into undisclosed mechanical trouble. The session was run in overcast but dry conditions, and a track temperature of 20 degrees Celsius.

#13 Rad-oh-yeah?

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 14:11

http://www.soccer-li...F1/f1player.php

Evo pa gledajte trening, upravo ide...

#14 MikiVeliki

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 17:47

Da vrlo zanimljiv poll! Mada Kimi je danas bio uzasno spor. Verovatno razlicita strategija ? To mi govori da Kimi izgleda ima najvise navijaca ovde .
Alonzo vise nije tako konzistentan ko sto je bio, gde su sada dezurni kriticari koji su trubili kako samo Kimi sjebe masinu , a Alonzo nikad. Eto cim malo stisne onu kantu od renoa , ona vrisne (ne ljuti se alpineru) , zbilja Alonzu ne treba zameriti ako ode iz renoa, kao Kimi iz mecke svojevremeno.

#15 Downforce

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 17:58

Mada Kimi je danas bio uzasno spor. Verovatno razlicita strategija ?

Problemi sa set-upom. Masa se nije zalio na slicne probleme. Cak je izjavio da mu je bolid odlicno izbalansiran na oba tipa pneumatika...