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[alpiner]

Dužina staze: 4361m
Broj krugova: 70
Dužina trke: 305.270 km
Rekord kruga: 1:13.622 - R. Barrichello, Ferrari F2004 ( 2004. )
Rekordni pole: 1:12.275 - R. Schumacher, BMW Williams FW26 ( 2004. )

Najveća brzina 2007. ( qual ): 324.2 km/h
Pole 2007: 1:15.707 L.Hamilton, vMax: 320.3 km/h ( 11. )

Najveća brzina 2006. ( qual ): 320.6 km/h
Pole 2006: 1:14.942 F.Alonso, vMax: 313.3 km/h ( 11. )

Pobednici ( startno mesto ):

2007. L.Hamilton McLaren Mercedes ( 1 )
2006. F.Alonso Renault ( 1 )
2005: K.Raikkonen McLaren Mercedes ( 7 )
2004. M.Schumacher Ferrari ( 6 )
2003. M.Schumacher Ferrari ( 3 )
2002. M.Schumacher Ferrari ( 2 )
2001. R. Schumacher BMW Williams ( 2 )
2000. M.Schumacher Ferrari ( 1 )



Petak 6.6.2008.

Prvi slobodni trening 16:00 - 17:30
Drugi slobodni trening 20:00 - 21:30

Subota 7.6.2008.

Treći slobodni trening 16:00 - 17:00
Kvalifikacije 19:00

Nedelja 8.6.2008.

Trka 19:00

[alberto.ascari]

Stvarno ne znam, Monaco, još po kiši, nije merilo ni za jednu drugu stazu, a Turska je bila pre mesec dana.

U svakom slučaju ne očekujem mnogo od Ferrari, jedan podijum bi mogao da bude uspeh. Najverovatnije uzima HAM, ne znam kako će uticati na KUB prošlogodišnja havarija, HEI izgleda nije baš u formi. Iznenadjenje? WEB ili TRU. Dobar plasman ALO ipak ne bi trebalo da bude stvar iznenadjenja, ali videćemo. U Monacu je auto bio stvarno loš, ali ovo je potpuno drugačija staza. Zanima me šta može da uradi FI.

[Downforce]

U svakom slučaju ne očekujem mnogo od Ferrari, jedan podijum bi mogao da bude uspeh.

Nema razloga za pesimizam. Bice sve ok.

[alpiner]

Canadian GP technical preview



Montreal's Circuit Gilles Villeneuve is a stop-start, temporary circuit. The long straights mean plenty of heavy braking, while numerous slow corners put the emphasis on strong traction and good engine torque to launch the cars out of them. A competitive car will give the drivers confidence to brake late, while also looking after the rear tyres on a circuit where teams will be running the softest of Bridgestone's 2008 compounds.

Aerodynamics

Montreal will see the team run with a 'low downforce' aerodynamic package. The circuit can be considered as including no high-speed corners, as turn 5 is taken comfortably at full throttle in fifth and sixth gears. The primary focus is therefore on minimising drag levels in order to achieve competitive straightline speeds (with a maximum of over 320 kph), while the downforce will assist vehicle stability under heavy braking. The low downforce levels mean the car feels light to drive, and nervous under braking, and so the drivers need to be more delicate with their steering inputs, and when applying the brakes and throttle.

Suspension

The cars need a responsive change of direction in the chicanes while maintaining good stability under braking and traction out of the slow corners. Brake locking must also be taken into consideration when tuning the suspension, as excessive locking at front or rear will cost lap-time.

Brakes

Along with Monza, Montreal is the most demanding circuit of the year for the brakes. Overheating is not the primary concern, as the discs and pads have ample time to cool on the straights. However, the braking energies are very high, with four braking events from over 300 kph - and the other two from above 250 kph. Basic wear is therefore our primary concern, and we monitor this in real time during the race. The driver may be asked to adjust the brake balance if wear levels become alarming at front or rear, and some of our work in practice will focus on ensuring that brake wear levels are under control on representative race fuel loads.

Tyres

The temporary nature of the circuit means that the circuit begins the weekend very 'green' and grip levels improve constantly throughout the weekend - just like we see at similar venues such as Melbourne or Monaco. The track surface is not particularly abrasive, and the absence of high-speed corners means that tyre energies are among the lowest of the season. Consequently, the teams will be using the Soft and Super-soft compounds from Bridgestone's 2008 range, as was the case for the last race in Monaco.

Strategy

Traditionally, Montreal has been a race with strategies ranging from one to three stops - although a two-stop strategy is likely to be the most competitive solution under the 2008 tyre regulations. The absence of high-speed corners means the fuel effect (the time penalty for carrying fuel weight) is relatively low at this circuit, and combined with low fuel consumption, this means there is relatively little penalty in qualifying for carrying extra fuel. Teams will also need to consider the ever-present threat of a safety car period, and so a flexible strategy could reap rewards come Sunday afternoon.

Engine Performance

The engine is used in a very stop-start fashion around the Montreal circuit, which is essentially compromised of six extended full throttle bursts separated by chicanes. The engine spends just under 60% of the lap at full throttle, which is not a particularly high percentage, but the longest full throttle section last for 14s - a more demanding value, which puts the circuit at the higher end of the scale for engine severity. Cooling is not normally a problem thanks to the long straights, but cut grass and other debris are potential hazards. We monitor temperatures closely, and debris can usually be removed at the pit-stops.

[Downforce]

Jedan od detaljcica koji bi mogao da utice na performanse bolida na ovoj trci...ne drastican uticaj, ali ce se osetiti...

FIA moves to avoid flexible bridge wings

The FIA has made a fresh clampdown of moveable aerodynamic devices by forcing teams to make their 'bridge wings' more stable from this weekend's Canadian Grand Prix, autosport.com can reveal.

Teams have been told that if their 'bridge wing' is not secured to the nose then a supporting stay must now be fitted to ensure it does not flex.

Six teams are running bridge wings that span across the nose - McLaren, Toyota, Renault, Williams, Red Bull Racing and Scuderia Toro Rosso. Renault's design already featured a central stay, while the other teams will have to follow suit from Montreal.

It is understood that the move was made after the Turkish Grand Prix, where on-board video footage of some of the bridge wings over the weekend suggested that they could be flexing at high speed.

The FIA has always been keen to ensure teams do not exploit the area of moveable aerodynamic devices, and has previously moved to stamp down on the issue for Canada, where the track's characteristics mean that flexible wings can be a big advantage.

In 2006, the FIA ordered teams to introduce slot-gap separators on their rear wings for Canada in a bid to end controversy about flexible wings. This, however, did not stop Honda threatening to protest rivals BMW Sauber about their wing design at that year's race.

McLaren pioneered the bridge wing in F1 last year and, although there were suspicions from rival teams that it was a moveable aerodynamic device when it raced for the first time, the FIA technical department gave it the all-clear after a detailed inspection last May

Boldovani deo teksta se izmedju ostalih, odnosi i na ovaj snimak.

[Rad-oh-yeah?]

Ide prenos treninga na ITV strimu, pada sitna kisa - staza se delimicno susi na trkackoj putanji.

Za nedelju predvidjaju 40% sanse za kisu tokom trke, veliku vrucinu i sparinu.

[alberto.ascari]

1. trening Massa.

[Rad-oh-yeah?]

1. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:17.553
2. Robert Kubica Poland BMW Sauber 1:17.809
3. Heikki Kovalainen Finland McLaren-Mercedes 1:18.133
4. Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber 1:18.182
5. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari 1:18.292
6. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:18.303
7. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:18.712
8. David Coulthard Britain Red Bull-Renault 1:18.809
9. Kazuki Nakajima Japan Williams-Toyota 1:18.971
10. Fernando Alonso Spain Renault 1:19.005
11. Nico Rosberg Germany Williams-Toyota 1:19.093
12. Sebastian Vettel Germany Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:19.228
13. Timo Glock Germany Toyota 1:19.346
14. Jarno Trulli Italy Toyota 1:19.568
15. Giancarlo Fisichella Italy Force India-Ferrari 1:19.815
16. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Ferrari 1:19.888
17. Nelson Piquet Brazil Renault 1:20.091
18. Rubens Barrichello Brazil Honda 1:20.173
19. Sebastien Bourdais France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:20.541
20. Jenson Button Britain Honda 1:21.542

[Jr]

ma u p
Odoh do wca na minut i masa ode da kosi travu...
Jel vidio neko sto je bilo?

[Downforce]

Jel vidio neko sto je bilo?

Problemi sa hidraulikom.

[Rad-oh-yeah?]

ma u p
Odoh do wca na minut i masa ode da kosi travu...
Jel vidio neko sto je bilo?

Nije kosio, samo se lepo parkirao.

[alpiner]

The last tickets for this weekend's Canadian grand prix sold out on Thursday, meaning that the three-day attendance will top 300,000.

[Downforce]

Nakon danasnjeg treninga zakljucujem da je sve ispod Luisove pobede sa 20+sec apsolutno iznenadjenje.

Ferrari je ocajan. Ubi ih zadnji sektor. Jedina slamka spasa je da furaju set-up za kisu. To je jedino sto moze da mi objasni ovakav jad od "performansi". Mada bi to definitivno bila samo njima ocekivana kisa.

Svaka cast za Kubicu i Alonsa. Alonso mozda sa 1-2 kruga manje goriva ali odlicno u svakom slucaju.

Weber...izlete covek u krugu pri povratku u boks...bzvz...

Cini mi se da je vetar napravio dosta problema. To je jedino sto moze da mi objasni ovoliki rast u vremenima po krugu kod svih vozaca. Prethodni treninzi su bili dosta brzi.

[alpiner]

Brrm brrm!!



Kvalifikacije



Auuu šta je sa Ferrariem. U Q2, uvek reper realne brzine, jedva su brži od Nanda!

[alpiner]

Down,

Pazi Nanda u trećem sektoru tokom Q2.


Lepo mi je ovo da gledam ali je jasno da bi šesto mesto za njega bilo premija. Odnosno Renault ume da bude brz u jednom krugu ali nije blag prema gumama i iz kruga u krug gubi po malo vremena. Ovaj treći sektor je i bitan pošto se tu obilazi a Renault ima zavidnu maximalnu brzinu.

Edited by alpiner, 07 June 2008 - 19:37.