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Poll: Koja je buduca svetska valuta? (535 member(s) have cast votes)

Koja je buduca svetska valuta?

  1. Dolar (95 votes [21.02%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.02%

  2. Evro (196 votes [43.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 43.36%

  3. Juan (67 votes [14.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.82%

  4. Nesto cetvrto (94 votes [20.80%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.80%

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#1321 Anduril

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 14:17

Odlicno. Ima i dobrog humora tamo oko 40 minuta sa Kinezima ali to ce stvarno tako biti. Mislim za Kineze je to tragicno za Amerikance je smesno ali tako to ide u zivotu. Ima i onu foru sa Yahoo i Novim Zelandom ali stvarno tako bese.


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Jeste, taj smesan deo sa Kinezima je zapravo sustina.

#1322 No7

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 20:57

Stocks jump after Fed says it will buy Treasurys
Stocks rise after Federal Reserve says it will buy up to $300B in Treasurys

NEW YORK (AP) -- The Federal Reserve is keeping Wall Street's big rally alive with news that it will start buying Treasurys to help open up tight credit markets.

The central bank said it will purchase up to $300 billion of longer-term Treasury securities over the next six months. The decision sent both government bonds and bank stocks soaring.

The Fed's announcement accompanied its decision to keep interest rates at historically low levels. It also reiterated Chairman Ben Bernanke's prediction made Sunday night on the CBS program "60 Minutes" that government steps should return the economy to sustainable growth.


Dolar je vec reagovao na ovo i u padu je prilicnom, trenutno je na 1.3471. Uglavnom svi su ocekivali ovo i zna se sta sledi srednejrocno i dugorocno.

#1323 heathen

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 12:58

The Mother of All Bells

by Peter Schiff


There is an old adage on Wall Street that no one rings a bell at major market tops or bottoms. That may be true in normal times, but as many have noticed, we are now completely through the looking glass. In this parallel reality, Ben Bernanke has just rung the loudest bell ever heard in the foreign exchange and government debt markets. Investors who ignore the clanging do so at their own peril. The bell’s reverberations will be felt by everyday Americans, whose lives are about to change in ways few can imagine. While nearly every facet of America’s economy has been devastated over the past six months, our national currency has thus far skipped through the carnage with nary a scratch. Ironically, the U.S. dollar has been the beneficiary of the global economic crises which the United States set in motion. As a result, our economy has thus far been spared the full force of the storm.

This week the Federal Reserve finally made clear what should have been obvious for some time – the only weapon that the Fed is willing to use to fight the economic downturn is a continuing torrent of pure, undiluted, inflation. The announcement should be seen as a game changer that redirects the fury of the financial storm directly onto our shores.

In its statement, the Fed announced its intention to purchase an additional $1 trillion worth of U.S. treasury and agency debt. The purchases, of course, will be made with money created out of thin air through the Fed’s printing presses. Few can doubt that they will persist with these operations until the economy returns to its former health. Whether or not this can ever be accomplished with a printing press alone has never been seriously considered. Bernanke himself admits that we are in uncharted waters, with no map or compass, just simply a hope that more dollars are the answer.

Rather than solving our problems, more inflation will only add to the crisis. Falling asset prices, the credit crunch, declining consumer spending, bankruptcies, foreclosures, and layoffs are all part of the necessary rebalancing of our economy. These wrenching movements, however painful, are the market’s attempts to resolve the serious problems at the root of our bubble economy. Attempts to literally paper-over these problems will lead to disaster.

Now that the Fed has recklessly shown its hand, the mad dash to get out of Treasuries and dollars should not be far off. The more the Fed prints to buy bonds the less the dollar is worth. Holders of our debt (read China and Japan) understand this dynamic. We must expect that they will not only refuse to buy new bonds, but they will look to unload those bonds they already own.

Under normal circumstances, if creditors grew concerned that inflation was eating into their returns, the Fed would raise interest rates to entice them to buy. However, the Fed will avoid this course of action as it fears higher rates are too heavy a burden for our debt-laden economy to bear. To maintain artificially low rates, the Fed will be forced to purchase trillions more debt then it expects as it becomes the only buyer in a seller’s market.

Just last week, Chinese premier Wen Jiabao voiced concern about his country’s massive investments in U.S. government debt. In the most unequivocal statement yet by the Chinese leadership on this issue, Wen made it plain that he was concerned with depreciation, not default. With his fears now officially confirmed by the Fed statement, we must wonder when the Chinese will finally change course.

There is a growing consensus that if China no longer wants to buy our bonds, we can simply print the money and buy them ourselves. This naïve view fails to consider the consequences implicit in such a change. When the Treasury sells bonds to China, no new dollars are printed. Instead, China prints yuan which it then uses to buy treasuries. This effectively allows America to export its inflation to China. However, now that we will be printing the money ourselves, the full inflationary impact will fall directly on us.

With such a policy in place, America has now become a banana republic. It won’t be too long before our living standards reflect our new status. Got Gold?


March 21, 2009

#1324 Gandalf

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 22:13

U.N. panel says world should ditch dollar

A U.N. panel will next week recommend that the world ditch the dollar as its reserve currency in favor of a shared basket of currencies, a member of the panel said on Wednesday, adding to pressure on the dollar.

Currency specialist Avinash Persaud, a member of the panel of experts, told a Reuters Funds Summit in Luxembourg that the proposal was to create something like the old Ecu, or European currency unit, that was a hard-traded, weighted basket.

Persaud, chairman of consultants Intelligence Capital and a former currency chief at JPMorgan, said the recommendation would be one of a number delivered to the United Nations on March 25 by the U.N. Commission of Experts on International Financial Reform.

"It is a good moment to move to a shared reserve currency," he said.

Central banks hold their reserves in a variety of currencies and gold, but the dollar has dominated as the most convincing store of value -- though its rate has wavered in recent years as the United States ran up huge twin budget and external deficits.

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Persaud said there were two main reasons why policymakers might consider such a move, one being the current desire for a change from the dollar.

The other reason, he said, was the success of the euro, which incorporated a number of currencies but roughly speaking held on to the stability of the old German deutschemark compared with, say, the Greek drachma.

Persaud has long argued that the dollar would give way to the Chinese yuan as a global reserve currency within decades.

A shared reserve currency might negate this move, he said, but he believed that China would still like to take on the role.

#1325 Unbeliever

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 22:17

U.N. panel says world should ditch dollar


zasto si izostavio deo koji kaze da Amerikanci vise nece da dolar bude rezervna valuta sveta i da bi rado taj posao dali yuanu pa nek pukne gde pukne? :ph34r:

#1326 Gandalf

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 22:46

zasto si izostavio deo koji kaze da Amerikanci vise nece da dolar bude rezervna valuta sveta i da bi rado taj posao dali yuanu pa nek pukne gde pukne? :ph34r:

ko hoce sve, klik.

edit: pri tome, ako je tacno da Ameri sada ne zele da dolar nastavi kao svetska valuta, to nije "nek pukne gde pukne". vrednost dolara bi se strmoglavila.

Edited by Gandalf, 21 March 2009 - 22:49.


#1327 No7

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Posted 22 March 2009 - 00:27

Ma nema nista od toga ovo je sasvim ocekivano ja sam to i ranije napisao.
Ovaj napad FED-a na hipoteke bi bio dobar ranije jos bi bilo bolje da su sa svim tim novcem uleteli na trziste nekretnina i kupovali kuce i tako spasavali banke a spustali cene kuca ako vec tako zele a zele da trose novac na taj nacin i to 1000 milijardi $. U sustini nabolje je bilo da su jos u septembru 2008 ukinuli mark-to-market i tako oslobodili banke vezivanja za hipoteke ali eto. U sustini cena kuca mora da padne dal ce oni sada ponovo vestacki dignuti pa ce opet da se desi pad je nebitno mogu samo time da pogorsaju situaciju kao sto se vidi iz ovoga primera sa $.
A i ovaj pad $ nije los za SAD jer omogucava povecavanje izvoza. Problem je sto bi slicne stvari mogli da otpocnu svi po svetu vec se prica za BoJ a ECB se jos drzi po strani koliko znam BoE vec je ranije najavila slicne mere sa funtom. A to nista ne valja na globalnom nivou.
Naravno dugorocno po meni ce to izazvati velike probleme.

#1328 MAGRIPA65

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Posted 22 March 2009 - 09:06

Dolar ce prvo da raste a onda ce malo da padne.Nakon toga ima da
pada a posle da raste kao sto sam ja i predvideo.
Ja kao ekonomski genije predvidjam da ce se kurs dolara menjati u odnosu na druge valute...
Znaci srednjerocno i dugorocno kurs dolara ce se menjati svakog dana a ja posto sam
predvideo da ce se kurs menjati samo zelim da naglasim kako sam to pogodio...

#1329 bojant

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Posted 22 March 2009 - 21:17

Dolar ce prvo da raste a onda ce malo da padne.Nakon toga ima da
pada a posle da raste kao sto sam ja i predvideo.
Ja kao ekonomski genije predvidjam da ce se kurs dolara menjati u odnosu na druge valute...
Znaci srednjerocno i dugorocno kurs dolara ce se menjati svakog dana a ja posto sam
predvideo da ce se kurs menjati samo zelim da naglasim kako sam to pogodio...


hvala na prognozama, puno mi znaci, evo ja cu od sada da kupim dolare pre nego sto skoci njegova vrednost, a prodacu ih kad pocne da pada

#1330 Unbeliever

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 02:05

hvala na prognozama, puno mi znaci, evo ja cu od sada da kupim dolare pre nego sto skoci njegova vrednost, a prodacu ih kad pocne da pada


a da investiras malo i u sarkazm masinu...

#1331 bojant

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 04:29

a da investiras malo i u sarkazm masinu...


good one :ph34r:

#1332 dekss

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 20:52

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#1333 Scubius

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 09:39

Odstampno je 1000 milijardi dolara. Berza uzlece, dolar pada, nafta raste. Jos dva meseca,. a onda je kraj.

#1334 FriendOfTheEarth

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 10:52

Pred nasim clanom je medijska buducnost!

O kolegi sa foruma Daytraderu su danas pisle novine "24 casa" gde je prikazan kao Srbin-Nostradamus :ph34r:


Evo deo clanka u kome se citira Daytrader:

Misteriozni Srbin koji je predvideo dolazak krize



Iako čak i čelnici Vlade Srbije kažu da se svetska kriza nije mogla predvideti, jedan Srbin, koji živi u inostranstvu, je pet godina unazad predviđao ovakav crni scenario. Ovaj ekonomski Nostradmus insistira na svojoj anonimnosti, a iz njegovih izjava može se naslutiti da se bavi trgovinom na berzi. Njegove komentare, od kojih mi prenosimo nekoliko, možete naći na forumu B92 pod nadimkom „daytrader”.

Monetarna kontrola u Americi? Pa četiri lika praktično kontrolišu berzu! Jedini problem je što je kreiranje finansijskog balona nezdravo. Već 1,5 god. su u US najmanje kamate, slično je bilo pred krah 29-te.
27. maj 2004

Ko će u Americi da izađe pred stanovništvo i kaže - E, treba da se smanji doživljaj, da se zategne kaiš, da ne dobijemo gadno po nosu... Pa, niko...Ko će ikad da glasa za tu opciju?
Greed & ignorance, gadna kombinacija.
08. januar 2005.

Zapad se pretvorio u tigra od papira. Pohlepa korporacija je to što vodi Zapad,
i USA naročito u debakl, samo je pitanje vremena. Celokupna vrednost US ekonomije je oko 11 triliona, dug je 8,1 trilion. Mislim, kuc, kuc, anybody home?
04. januar 2006.

Ljude je nekad zanimala religija. Na to se palili, pa to završilo inkvizicijom. Onda se dohvatili politike, pa to završilo sa dva svetska rata. Sad ih zanima samo novac. To neće dobro da završi, čisto logika, gledajući unazad.
2. jun 2007.

Možda su Kinezi u pravu. Oni tvrde da tri generacije imaju, četiri nemaju, prosto. Ili Arap, deda jahao kamilu, otac vozio kola, ja avion, a sin će opet kamilu. I problemi u USA nisu izolovani, kači to i zubara u Milanu, i ribara u Norveškoj.
18. septembar 2008.


Edited by FriendOfTheEarth, 24 March 2009 - 10:53.


#1335 slow

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 11:22

Pred nasim clanom je medijska buducnost!

O kolegi sa foruma Daytraderu su danas pisle novine "24 casa" gde je prikazan kao Srbin-Nostradamus :ph34r:


Evo deo clanka u kome se citira Daytrader:


Daytradera za predsednika!  :)