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#4741 /13/Ален Шмит/

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 19:29

Više izvora potvrđuje: "Halo" zaštita se uvodi 2018!

 
FIA izveštaj o ovome
 

For the first time, all teams competing in the FIA Formula One World Championship were present at the meeting with observers from Renault Sport Formula One Team, Scuderia Toro Rosso, Sauber F1 Team and Haas F1 Team in attendance.

Key topics discussed at the meeting included:

Frontal cockpit protection

Following the unanimous agreement of the Strategy Group, in July 2016, to introduce additional frontal protection for Formula One and the repeated support from the drivers, the FIA confirms the introduction of the Halo for 2018. With the support of the teams, certain features of its design will be further enhanced.

Having developed and evaluated a large number of devices over the past five years, it had become clear that the Halo presents the best overall safety performance.

2021 Power Unit

An update was given to all attendees regarding the two recent extraordinary meetings held in Paris involving significant representation from the bulk of global motor sport power unit manufacturers.

Further analysis will be completed over the summer which will be reviewed at the next meeting of the Strategy Group in September.

Cost control

A new approach to cost control was presented and received unanimous support. A dedicated Working Group made up of representation from the Commercial Right Holders, the FIA and the teams will be tasked to come up with innovative solutions aimed at ensuring the sport remains sustainable in the coming years.

Improving the show

A number of sporting measures aimed at improving the show were also debated and specific studies will be carried out to assess these.


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#4742 Hertzog

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 19:31

Aj nek je sa srecom :)
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Posted 19 July 2017 - 20:24

Jebiga kad su se timovi zajebavali i mislili da ce ovo samo od sebe da nestane, sad su dobili najgore moguce resenje.

 

Fakat je da su povrede glave u bolidima sa otvorenim kokpitom problem - samo zadnjih par godina imali smo Henrija Sartisa, Veldona, Mariju de Viljotu, Bjankija i Dzastina Vilsona, to je 5 smrti. Plus Masa (fraktura lobanje), Hincklif (potres mozga) i nebrojeni drugi cija kaciga je dosla u direktni kontakt sa stranim telima bilo da su u pitanju delovi otpali sa bolida, objekti kraj staze ili cak citavi bolidi. Timovi su se 2016. jednoglasno obavezali da ce da rade na resenju ali osim Mercedesovog predloga koji je evoluirao u halo i Red Bulovog abortitanog pokusaja niko se nije potrudio da ozbiljno razmotri ovaj problem. Sada kad je Ferari trebalo da testira ovaj najnoviji vetrobran bukvalno dva dana pred test su uradili verziju koja cak nije ni finalni proizvod nego koristi potpuno drugacije staklo i onda ga nisu vozili ni jedan ceo krug.

 

I kao sto to obicno biva, kada ti neces da radis na necemu a nesto mora da se uradi, neko drugi ce uraditi umesto tebe ali ti se rezultat nece nuzno i svideti.

 

Da FIA sada nije povukla nogu i uvela halo (kad vec drugo sta praktivno i ne postoji) prilikom sledece nesrece gde bi neko stradao o udarca u glavu reagovali bi zakonodavci. Kao sto su reagovali u Svajcarskoj nakon nesrece na Lemanu 1955. gde je od tada zabranjeno trkanje na kruznim stazama a malo je falilo da bude zabranjeno svuda. Zato je duznost svih zainteresovanih za auto-sport da u ovakvim situacijama budu proaktivni, jer ako nastave da se ponasaju kao totalni idioti odluke ce umesto njih doneti neko drugi. A taj nece nuzno imati najbolji interes auto-sporta na umu.

 

U svakom slucaju, koliko sam cuo halo je samo privremeno resenje za 2018. dok bi kao konacno resenje trebalo da dobijemo vetrobran slican ovome koji su trebali da testiraju u Ferariju, ali potpuno integrisan u dizajn bolida.


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#4744 Hertzog

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 20:32

Evo na prvu sumnjam da bi Massa bolje prosao da je imao Halo, isto tako ne vidim siru primenu ovog otvorenog sistema, jer te osim rama nista ne stiti. Ono sto je Ferrari testirao je mnogo bolje resenje jer je zatvorenog tipa, ali ne zna kakvo bi stanje bilo po kisnim stazama
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Posted 19 July 2017 - 20:48

Da, ovo ne bi pomoglo kod slucajeva sitnijih komada kao kod Mase ili Hincklifa (proslo bi ispod sipke), a sumnjam da bi puno pomoglo i Bjankiju, Veldonu ili de Viljoti (tesko da bi tu bilo sta pomoglo). Jedino slucajevi poput Sartisa i Vilsona bi bili pokriveni. Zato mora kompletan vetrobran.

 

Sto se tice kise - postoje sredstva za tretiranje vetrobranskog stakla koje u sadejstvu sa strujanjem vazduha teraju vodu sa njega, to se koristi u avijaciji i nije neka velika mudrost. Takodje se mogu koristiti i folije kao na viziru od kacige koje bi se skidale prilikom odlaska u boks (Leman i Naskar vec koriste to).

 

Inace meni licn ne bi smetalo neko ovakvo resenje ali sa vetrobranom napred:

 

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#4746 /13/Ален Шмит/

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 22:17

Steve Nielsen appointed Sporting Director at Formula 1

Formula 1, the pinnacle of motor sport, is pleased to announce the appointment of Steve Nielsen as Sporting Director, working within the Motorsport Division. Nielsen will take up this position on 1st August and will report directly to Ross Brawn.

British-born Nielsen has a wealth of experience in Formula 1. Since the late Eighties, he has worked mostly as team manager and sporting director at Lotus, Benetton, Renault, Tyrrell, Honda, Arrows, Caterham, Toro Rosso and Williams.

Ross Brawn, Managing Director, Motorsports, Formula 1, said: “I have known Steve for many years and have seen at first hand his skills and ability.

“His appointment will strengthen the working group we are setting up to work with the FIA and the teams in defining a framework for the technical and sporting regulations for Formula 1’s next phase.

“Steve’s main responsibility will be related to sporting and organisational matters, for example by attending the meetings of the Sporting Working Group.”


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Posted 19 July 2017 - 22:29

Ma znam ja da imaju ti materijali da odbiju kisu, ali ovde se ne radi samo o kisi, ima tu i blata i ostalog otpada sa staze. Spalo bi to al bi ipak ostajao trag. Dovodi se u pitanje sta ako ti pre planiranog odlaska u boks taj vizir bude prljav, nema drugog nacina nego nepanirani odlaAk u boks radi uklanjanja zastitne folije
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Posted 20 July 2017 - 03:27

Ma znam ja da imaju ti materijali da odbiju kisu, ali ovde se ne radi samo o kisi, ima tu i blata i ostalog otpada sa staze. Spalo bi to al bi ipak ostajao trag. Dovodi se u pitanje sta ako ti pre planiranog odlaska u boks taj vizir bude prljav, nema drugog nacina nego nepanirani odlaAk u boks radi uklanjanja zastitne folije

 

Pa dobro kako to resavaju na Lemanu? Ocigledno su nekako resili cim njima nije problem.


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Posted 20 July 2017 - 08:13

Ovo ce podici i tezinu bolida, ako idemo na zatvoreni canopy, jer prosto moraju da ugrade klima uredjaj. U Le manu svi zatvoreni prototipovi moraju da imaju sistem koji drzi temperaturu kokpita na zadatoj vrednosti, citaj klima. Jos jedan sistem koji treba smestiti u vec dovoljno skucen prostor. Plus mehanizam odbacivanja poklopca koji mora biti resen pirotehnikom, jer bezbedniji nacin tesko da postoji. Nista to nije problem, samo sto trazi vreme za ubudzuti. 


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Posted 20 July 2017 - 14:40

According to AMuS information Ferrari was the only team in favor of Halo introduction 2018. All other teams were against.


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Posted 20 July 2017 - 15:12

Ovo ce podici i tezinu bolida, ako idemo na zatvoreni canopy, jer prosto moraju da ugrade klima uredjaj. U Le manu svi zatvoreni prototipovi moraju da imaju sistem koji drzi temperaturu kokpita na zadatoj vrednosti, citaj klima. Jos jedan sistem koji treba smestiti u vec dovoljno skucen prostor. Plus mehanizam odbacivanja poklopca koji mora biti resen pirotehnikom, jer bezbedniji nacin tesko da postoji. Nista to nije problem, samo sto trazi vreme za ubudzuti. 

 

Imali su par godina da razmisljaju i rade na tome, prosle godine su se i zvanicno obavezali da ce za 2018. da nadju neko resenje - i nisu uradili apsolutno nista. Sad su dobili oktroisano resenje koje se nikome ne svidja, no ko ih jebe sami su krivi. Nije tu u pitanju ni nedostatak vremena ni nepremostivi tehnicki problemi vec cisto kurcobolja i nedostatak volje.


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Posted Yesterday, 20:04

F1 - WHY HALO IS THE BEST SOLUTION

This week FIA confirmed the introduction of the Halo system for use in 2018 FIA Formula One World Championship. Let us recall the context of this process started several years ago.

Safety in motorsport is a paramount concern for the FIA and while great strides have been made in many areas of motor sport, head protection in single-seater competition has been an area of concern for many years.

Motor sport by its nature involves risk but it is the mission of the FIA, as the sport’s governing body, to continually strive to minimise that risk through the constant pursuit of greater safety on the track through sound research and technological development.

Over the past decade motor sport has witnessed serious incidents that affected drivers. The severity of the incidents made it clear to the FIA that developing a solution to mitigate against frontal impact in the area of the cockpit is a research priority for the FIA to address this existing weak point. They were also a number of near misses accidents that highlighted the need for action.

Following several incidents, the Grand Prix Drivers’ Association also expressed to FIA President Jean Todt in July 2016 a request that some form of frontal cockpit protection be “implemented as swiftly as possible”.

A month later, following meetings of the F1 Strategy Group and the F1 Commission, the Commission confirmed a commitment to introduce “some form of cockpit protection from the 2017 season”, assuring that “all stakeholders are working together to make this a reality, with the ‘Halo’ concept currently the preferred option.”

While static tests of the device continued, other solutions were simultaneously explored, particularly the ‘Aeroscreen’, a windshield mounted on twin pillars attached to the coaming on either side of the cockpit. The system was tested in free practice at the 2016 Russian Grand Prix but while it was successful in some areas, further testing raised concerns as to the effectiveness of the device.

By contrast, tests of the Halo continued to prove successful. Centring on three significant major risk types, car-to-car contact, car-to-environment contact and external objects, tests revealed that in the case of car-to-car incidents the Halo was able to withstand 15x the static load of the full mass of the car and was able to significantly reduce the potential for injuries.

In car-to-environment tests it was established that the Halo was able to prevent helmet contact with a wall or a barrier in many cases, using a selection of previous incidents as a reference.

Finally, in the case of external objects the Halo was found to successfully deflect large objects away from the cockpit environment and also demonstrated an increased net level of protection against small debris.

Furthermore, feedback from extensive track testing revealed that visibility was substantially unaffected, and there was no significant visual obstruction due to the central strut. Track testing also revealed no issues regarding egress from the cockpit and multiple extrication tests were conducted with the Halo in place, with a revised procedure formulated to ensure safe extrication.

Despite the success, in July of 2016 the F1 Strategy Group agreed to defer introduction of a cockpit protection system in order to provide more time to conduct track testing with the Halo device and to explore emerging alternative solutions.

However, while implementation was deferred, the Strategy Group reaffirmed its commitment to the introduction of a protection system by stating it was “agreed unanimously that the 2018 season will see the introduction of frontal cockpit protection for Formula One cars in order to significantly enhance the safety of drivers.” The Halo remained the preferred option.

Intensive track tests took place across the second half of the 2016 Formula One season with a wide number of teams and drivers assessing the impact of the device on visibility. Simultaneously the FIA maintained its commitment to the introduction of a device for the 2018 season.

Following these track tests and analysis of emerging alternative systems the F1 Strategy Group and F1 Commission decided, in April of this year, to “give priority to the transparent ‘Shield’ family of systems. The FIA aims to carry out track tests of this system during this season in preparation for implementation in 2018.”

After static testing, the Shield system was given a short track test at the 2017 British Grand Prix, with the device fitted to the Ferrari of Sebastian Vettel. Feedback from this test concerned a number of limitations around such a system.

In light of this and cognisant of the successful deflection tests conducted with the Halo system, the multiple successful track tests conducted with a wide variety of drivers and teams in the latter half of the 2016 season, and the need to implement regulations for the desired deadline of the start of the 2018 season, the Halo system represents the best solution to the issue of frontal cockpit protection currently in existence.

The latest design of the Halo will now be further refined ahead of its introduction in 2018 in a joint effort between teams, drivers and FIA.


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#4753 Downforce

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