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Saobracajni udesi u Srbiji


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#16 martinj

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 16:26

QUOTE(balu @ 1 Sep 2006, 05:30)
Razloga ima povise:

1. Losi (drcni) vozaci, bez vozacke etike.
2. Alkohol.
3. Gomila starih, opasnih automobila.
4. Losi putevi.



Pre svega 1 i 4.

#17 Zaje

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Posted 08 September 2006 - 08:37

Čitam komentare sa ovog sajta i sajta Politike, i ne mogu da se načudim koliko su u Srbiji okoreli oni koji divljaju u saobraćaju. Cele porodice ginu, a oni se drznuli da napadaju državu što će da im oduzima sredstvo za ubijanje!!! mad.gif

#18 APACH

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Posted 08 September 2006 - 18:32

meni se svidja novi zakon. Ionako mi je vise dosta idiota svaki dan.

#19 ljubitelj

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Posted 10 September 2006 - 11:11

QUOTE(APACH @ 8 Sep 2006, 18:32)
meni se svidja novi zakon. Ionako mi je vise dosta idiota svaki dan.

Slažem se .Treba oduzimat,pa neka se zamisle-dugo vozim i neverovatnih stvari sam se nagledao.jedno je malo brža vožnja,ali stotka po bulevaru,ili 140 po NBGD to je jeza.Lično bih uveo batinu za pijanstvo ili crveno,a šamar za bahatost.Umanjenje plate za policiju na čijem području je udes sa mrtvima

#20 beeva

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Posted 12 September 2006 - 06:05

Najveci problem je ipak u korupciji policajaca.Ukoliko je kazna eventualna ,200evrica policajcu a i vlasniku "skupocenog" automobila 50-100 evra predstavalja dobar dil.Na kraju "kola" ce se slomiti na onima koji voze relativno sigurno i dobro ali imaju losa auta .Budzet nekako mora da pokrpi.

#21 Zaje

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Posted 12 September 2006 - 20:43

Kako da ne! Najveći krivci su korumpirani policajci, a ne oni što ih korumpiraju!!! biggrin.gif


Šalu na stranu. Ipak, mislim da su mnogi krivi, i da je to problem koji zahteva angažovanje pre svega kompletnog državnog sistema. Nigde u normalnom svetu sistem bezbednosti ne može da zavisi samo od onog koji sprovodi represiju, a to je policajac. Na tom polju pre svega moraju da se angažuju oni koji su odgovorni za saobraćaj, ali i za zdravlje, obrazovanje i sl. Skoro sam negde pročitao da se bezbednošću saobraćaja na nivou UN najviše bavi Svetska zdravstvena organizacija (WHO) pored Komiteta za transport. Kod nas i dalje vlada uverenje da je to policijska nadležnost. Bojim se dokle god je Srbinu samo uniforma u glavi, neće nama biti dobro!

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#22 beeva

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 03:31

Iskreno se nadam da ce uskoro biti uspostavljen ta famozna agencija za saobracaj ili kako vec.U sustini saobracajna policija sada vodi kontrolu oko saobracaja a sve sto oni znaju je da procitaju nekoliko zakona i da vas oderu na kriticnim mjestima ako ih uopste i prezivite.To je da se,grubo izrazim,kao da medicinska sestra treba da da dijagnozu bolesniku.Zna nesto ali nedovoljno.Problem treba resavati samo uz rad strucnjaka iz saobracaja a takvih ima dovoljno.na kraju krajeva postoje dva fakulteta vezana za saobracaj gde se ova materija dosta dobro izucava

#23 DJ_Vasa

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 15:42

QUOTE(beeva @ 14 Sep 2006, 04:31)
...U sustini saobracajna policija sada vodi kontrolu oko saobracaja a sve sto oni znaju je da procitaju nekoliko zakona i da vas oderu na kriticnim mjestima ako ih uopste i prezivite...


Potpis za ovu tvrdnju. Dok gospoda policajci ne napuste hladovinu i ne počnu da patroliraju kroz saobraćaj, džabe su nam novi zakoni. A ako je tačno da su uvezli i neku novu opremu, red bi bilo da je upotrebe.

#24 Zaje

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Posted 18 September 2006 - 12:19

Tokom vikenda je poginuo rođak mog prijatelja u saobraćajci na Smederevskom putu. Vozio je taksi i sudario se sa kamionom. Poginuo je na licu mesta. Suvozač je bio vezan. Nije imao ni ogrebotinu.

#25 pobednik

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Posted 18 September 2006 - 15:57

Kad budu sklonili kamione sa puteva u vrme spiceva i vikenda, bice bar 40% udesa manje.

Ne prave samo kamioni udese, vec i oni koji ih nervozno obilaze i koji posle zure jer su bar 30km klackali za sleperom. Ljudi se unervoze...

Kako niko ne vidi da je to zaiista veliki problem?

#26 Zaje

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Posted 18 September 2006 - 17:14

U ovom slucaju nije bio kriv vozac kamiona. Da nije bio kamion, mozda bi bio neki automobil sa malom decom. Proceni sta je bolje.

#27 maxb

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Posted 18 September 2006 - 19:00

Zapitajte se kai i ja koliko ste puta blicali vozilu koje vam ide u susret da bi da upozorili na radar ili patrolu na putu?Sta ako je bas taj kriv za neki udes koji se desi posle par dana,a jeste li ikada zapisali broj registracije nekoga ko je vozio jednosmernom ulicom ili prosao na crveno svetlo, pa prijavili to policiji?
Problem je i u nasoj svesti i u ponasanju policije, jer mi njih vidimo kao neprijatelje koje treba zeznuti po svaku cenu,POMOZIMO IM da bi spasili svoju decu i sebe od takve voznje!!!

#28 WVIZ

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 21:06

Evo interesantnog clanka-

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Belgrade - After a black series of road accidents that has seen fatalities mounting on a daily basis in Belgrade, speeding as been firmly established as the leading cause of death on Serbian roads.

The authorities now hope to reverse the trend of reckless driving with a new draconian law, aimed at reducing fatalities, injuries and damage. But at the moment, horrible scenes are a daily spectacle on the roads.

A Turkish man and his mother cling to each other on the side of the highway through Belgrade, crying over broken bodies of a pregnant woman and an infant who were flung from their overturned BMW jeep, halfway through their 3000-kilometre holiday return trip to Belgium.

The driver lost control while driving twice as fast as the 80 kilometres-per-hour speed limit allows. The casualties were his wife and daughter.

A woman hysterically screams, sitting on wet pavement in downtown Belgrade and looking at a bleeding stump where her arm was before an out-of-control, stolen Mercedes veered across the median strip and smashed head-on into the little Skoda she was travelling in.

The four unsuspecting people in the Skoda and the driver of the Mercedes were gravely injured September 18 in the collision, while the 16-year-old passenger in the stolen car was instantly killed.

A smashed body of a young motorcycle driver lies crumpled by a construction fence, while a middle-aged driver is semiconscious and bleeding in a car effectively cut in two by the two-wheeler.

The car driver took a left turn, not suspecting that the dot of light he saw ahead was an 180 horsepower bike blazing toward him at around 200 kilometres per hour, though in a 50-kilometre-zone in the city.

Those were just some of the scenes of havoc caused by speeding in Belgrade over the past month. Outside the city, the situation remains even deadlier.

Overall, 444 people were killed and 9,800 were injured in the first three quarters of 2006 in Serbia, most in accidents directly related to speeding, then to other violations, police said.

The ratio of deaths to the number of inhabitants, 7.5 million, paints a picture that is brighter than the reality, as Serbia has far fewer cars per 100 people than Western countries, which set the safety standards.

Entire families have been wiped out, as on the Novi Sad highway, when a van swerved right and killed a couple with two children on their way to the Montenegrin coast.

On another occasion, on a dangerous spot where the road opens after winding through twisty gorge, five youths were killed when they smashed into a truck while overtaking across a full line.

The horrific accidents reflect the driving style of many in Serbia, a country which recently, after years of neglect, started getting better - and faster - roads and cars.

Driving discipline did not even remotely follow the improvement of the infrastructure. At least in the main corridors, the narrow, potholed roads were replaced with expanded, smooth surfacing.

Also, new crediting possibilities allowed many Serbs to replace their ancient, battered cars with something better and faster, something that may have spurred tragic overconfidence in some.

'Most accidents were caused by the human factor,' chief of the Serbian traffic police, Blagoje Milinic, said recently. 'It's driving too fast, ignoring traffic lights and other violations, or alcohol.'

An old Belgrade joke says taxi drivers wait at crossroads on green lights: 'A colleague will drive through red.' Public transport buses and trams run the lights as regularly as regular drivers.

Warily, pedestrians eye drivers who stopped to allow them across the street - risking their back-ends and willing to endure impatient honking from behind.

On country roads, the unbroken white line means little not just to the mean jeeps associated with mobsters and politicians, but also buses.

The cutting of corners takes on a literal meaning as drivers of lesser vehicles are forced to duck to the shoulder in the face of Scania or Volvo logos above the huge bumpers.

At the moment, the fines are laughably low for many - the absolutely highest is equivalent of 400 dollars. But the new traffic law, which is due to be enacted by the end of the year, would dramatically increase the fines as a deterrent.

Along with the draconian fines, the western-style points system and measures against traffic hooliganism, it would in some cases even allow the permanent confiscation of a vehicle from an offender.


#29 ganzer

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Posted 25 September 2006 - 22:55

Postali smo crna tačka Evrope. Mada i u Hrvatskoj je bila slična situacija pre godinu-dve, svaki dan je na vestima bilo sličnih udesa kao što su se kod nas dešavali letos. E, onda su doneli zakon, koji je isti kao i što će naš da bude i sad se situacija malo popravila. Ali jedna stvar koja mora podhitno da se uradi jeste da se zabrani ovim prokletim Rumunima, Ukrajincima i Turcima da razvaljuju lokalne puteve po Vojvodini da bi izbegli putarine na auto-putu. Em ne poštuju pravila, em sebe smatraju carevima drumova. Nije nimalo lepo kad ti pred kućom proleti šleperčina od 30 tona skoro 100 na sat.

#30 kovjanic

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 12:31

QUOTE(ganzer @ 25 Sep 2006, 23:55)
Ali jedna stvar koja mora podhitno da se uradi jeste da se zabrani ovim prokletim Rumunima, Ukrajincima i Turcima da razvaljuju lokalne puteve po Vojvodini da bi izbegli putarine na auto-putu. Em ne poštuju pravila, em sebe smatraju carevima drumova. Nije nimalo lepo kad ti pred kućom proleti šleperčina od 30 tona skoro 100 na sat.

Pretpostavljam da mislis na kamionski saobracaj?! Saobracajni znaci za zabranu prolaska slepera kroz naseljena mesta na relaciji BG-NS postoje vec godinu dana (izuzetak su kao vozila kojima je neko mesto krajnja destinacija - ko ce to da proveri). Problem je sto to niko zivi ne kontrolise... Tzv. 'stari put' NS-BG je prepun kamiona stranih tablica, za koje ne verujem da im je krajnji cilj selo Beska ili Krcedin!!! Sve bi to moglo da se izbegne, kad bi im se putarina naplatila vec na granici!
I nesto drugo:Razmisljam, da li bi se potplacivanje policije moglo izbeci kad bi se policajcima ukinulo pravo na naplatu kazne na licu mesta? Das im knjizicu sa kaznama, pa nek ispisuju koliko hoce! Sta ima on da barata kesom? U svetu, ni vozaci gradskih autobusa nemaju veze sa keshom od karata, a kamoli policija!?