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alpiner
post 07.07.2009, 22:30
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Broj krugova: 60
Džina staze: 5.148 km
Dužina utrke: 308.863 km
Rekord staze: 1:29.468 - M. Schumacher (2004)

Nürburgring tech file
The Nürburgring has a reputation for being a ‘complete’ circuit in the sense that it includes a wide variety of corners. There are high-speed sections, medium-speed chicanes, and some very slow corners with high traction.

Overtaking is difficult but possible into the first corner and the chicane at turns 13 and 14. However, the weather is a constant concern and no matter what the season, rain and cool conditions are an ever-present threat in the Eifel mountains.

Aerodynamics
The Nürburgring demands some of the highest downforce levels of the season, not only for the numerous high and medium-speed corners, but also to maintain good stability under heavy braking for the first corner and the slow chicane of turns 13 and 14.

Fernando Alonso explains: “The left-right chicane of turns 13 and 14 is probably the best overtaking opportunity as it’s one of the biggest braking zones of the lap. If you are following another car closely, you can pick up a good slipstream on the approach and make a lunge down the inside. We take it at about 100 km/h in second gear and you need to be aggressive with the curbs to straight-line the chicane as much as possible and carry speed through the corner.”

Chassis balance
Corners such as turns 5/6, 8/9 and 10/11 in particular demand a neutral handling balance to avoid compromising the optimum line through the second corner in the sequence, and the engineers will often work through the weekend to dial out understeer in the medium-speed corners.

A quick, responsive change of direction is required in both the slow-speed section at the start of the lap, and through the quicker corners. Mechanical grip is particularly important through turns 1 to 4, but cannot be achieved at the expense of aerodynamic performance around the rest of the lap.

Fernando explains: “The run through turns 1 to 4 is not very exciting for the drivers, but we spend a lot of time in them and that means that any mistake is likely to be very costly, especially in qualifying. We need to be precise with our braking and keep the car under control all the time as too much understeer, oversteer or a missed apex will put you out of shape for the following corners. The car balance is never perfect at such low speeds either, so we are always fighting understeer in the very slow corners, and a nervous rear end when we accelerate away.”

Tyres
Tyre performance will, as always, be a critical performance parameter for all teams this weekend with Bridgestone providing the super-soft and medium compounds from its 2009 range. Ambient conditions will play a role in determining which compound is the preferred tyre for the race as we often experience cool temperatures at the Nürburgring.

Brakes
Wear on the brakes is not a major concern. None of the braking zones are particularly severe and there is no reason to think that wear levels on the discs and pads should be abnormally high as a result.

Engine
The Nürburgring is not a circuit that presents the engines with any extreme challenges, and its overall impact is further reduced by the fact that the circuit is situated at altitude, some 500m above sea level. This has the effect of reducing engine power by approximately 5%, while also reducing loads on certain engine components such as the pistons.

The engine is at full throttle for just over 64% of the lap – a value slightly above the season average of approximately 62%. The longest single period at full throttle barely exceeds ten seconds, so the main challenge for the engine team is ensuring strong performance from low revs so the engine launches well out of the slow corners, particularly turn 7 which leads onto the uphill drag to turn 10.

Nelson Piquet Jr explains: “We approach turn 7 downhill in seventh gear at almost 300km/h before braking and downshifting to third for the hairpin. It’s really important to stay online and hit the apex through this corner so that you can apply the throttle early on the exit to carry as much speed on the long drag back up the hill towards the high-speed chicane of turns 8 and 9.”

The circuit includes a number of elevation changes, but none are sudden enough to cause the engine systems any concern. The only note of caution is finding the best line through some of the bumpier corners, and particularly the chicane, to avoid spending too much time on the rev limiter, which is potentially damaging for the engine.

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Prognoza vremena:



Petak
Practice 1: 10:00 - 11:30
Practice 2: 14:00 - 15:30

Subota
Practice 3: 11:00 - 12:00
Kvalifikacije: 14:00

Nedelja
Trka: 14:00



Ova nova staza će mi uvek ostati u senci legendarnog Nordschleifea ili kako ga je Jackie Stewart nazvao The Green Hell.



Na svu sreću imam prijatelje u Kelnu koje planiram da posetim ovog leta pa ću provozati par krugova i osetiti makar delić legende. Cena jednog kruga je 25€, četiri 80€...znači da će moji najbliži ostati bez poklona. laugh.gif

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post 07.07.2009, 22:42
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Morao sam thumbup.gif

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Vreme kao stvoreno za domacina, necu vise Buttona forsirati u prognozi.


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post 08.07.2009, 21:36
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CITAT (Uzice @ 08.07.2009, 19:15) *
Vreme kao stvoreno za domacina, necu vise Buttona forsirati u prognozi.


Domaci teren je domaci teren.
Jedina radost mi je sto nosi bedz Renoa na Kombinezonu. unsure.gif
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post 08.07.2009, 22:06
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Dobrodošao Louis! smile.gif
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CITAT (alpiner @ 08.07.2009, 23:06) *
Dobrodošao Louis! smile.gif



Hvala.Imam malih problema sa snalazenjem(slanjem poruka)pa ako dodje do neke greske a vi nemojte zameriti. unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif
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Dobrodosao!


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Ej Borko jesi li još na moru? Želim ti dobar provod.

Šta kažeš za Nandov intervju?

Q. Imagine for a second you will share a team with Felipe Massa, do you think you could have the same problems you had with Lewis Hamilton?

FA: No, because Flavio [Briatore] will manage the situation!
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hvala za kutak, glasao za vettela laugh.gif
ne, kao sto rekoh, krenem da kucam nekog drugog, ali ruka sama ide na H...ja sam svoje uradio, ostaje još lakši deo posla tj. da Hamilton nabode pobedu. a gde će pre nego na teritoriji mrskog neprijatelja

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post 10.07.2009, 01:01
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glasah za nekog treceg tj. za nekog van spiska

nesto mi govori da ce se desiti neko iznenadjenje na ovoj trci, a sad ne znam ni ja koje biggrin.gif


mozda da ferrari pobedi biggrin.gif

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ja sam za Vettela kad vec ne moze Kimi ili Baby xD


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Izgleda da će biti poprilično hladno. Brawn je u Silverstonu imao problema sa zagrevanjem guma, ali im ova staza po svojoj konfiguraciji više odgovara.
Nadam se da će pasti kiša i pobedi Vettela.

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FP1

Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:33.082 19
2. Button Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:33.463 + 0.381 18
3. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:33.745 + 0.663 21
4. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:33.795 + 0.713 23
5. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:33.839 + 0.757 26
6. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:33.840 + 0.758 23
7. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:33.902 + 0.820 26
8. Vettel Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:33.909 + 0.827 13
9. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:33.952 + 0.870 25
10. Alonso Renault (B) 1:34.148 + 1.066 16
11. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:34.221 + 1.139 25
12. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:34.227 + 1.145 17
13. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:34.483 + 1.401 14
14. Kubica BMW-Sauber (B) 1:34.694 + 1.612 23
15. Piquet Renault (B) 1:34.738 + 1.656 24
16. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:34.827 + 1.745 27
17. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:34.878 + 1.796 28
18. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:34.893 + 1.811 26
19. Glock Toyota (B) 1:34.911 + 1.829 23
20. Sutil Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:35.092 + 2.010 6


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FP2

Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:32.149 23
2. Vettel Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:32.331 + 0.182 31
3. Button Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:32.369 + 0.220 32
4. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:32.480 + 0.331 28
5. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:32.511 + 0.362 32
6. Sutil Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:32.585 + 0.436 32
7. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:32.664 + 0.515 26
8. Alonso Renault (B) 1:32.774 + 0.625 24
9. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:32.872 + 0.723 32
10. Piquet Renault (B) 1:32.992 + 0.843 29
11. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:33.012 + 0.863 36
12. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:33.052 + 0.903 34
13. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:33.128 + 0.979 34
14. Kubica BMW-Sauber (B) 1:33.161 + 1.012 28
15. Glock Toyota (B) 1:33.172 + 1.023 34
16. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:33.182 + 1.033 29
17. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:33.724 + 1.575 27
18. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:33.903 + 1.754 30
19. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:34.025 + 1.876 30
20. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:38.877 + 6.728 3


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QUOTE (alpiner @ 10.07.2009, 17:04) *
FP2

Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:32.149 23


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